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MarcosZeitola wrote:

S_Parc wrote:Here's the article on Heroin, as the new white drug ...

http://news.yahoo.com/heroin-drug-choic ... 00239.html

Another risk you don't really have if you raise your kids in a rural Asian town. At most they'll drink a few beers growing up, get wasted a few times as most teenagers do. But no heroine, cocaine, XTC or even weed or any of that shit will be around. Never seen a junkie there anywhere outside the major cities.

Raising a family in America these days, especially in big cities, seems like madness.

Oxycontin abuse [ basically a prescription opiate derivative ] has also infiltrated the rural towns in America. For the most part, if a pharmacy gets robbed, usually, it's for the Oxycontin inventory. And then, what happens is that once a person develops long term tolerance for Oxycontin, the next level up is Morphine and Heroin. Almost every person I know, has a friend or an acquaintance, who's hooked on Oxycontin. It's one of the saddest stories of our times.

S_Parc wrote:

MarcosZeitola wrote:

S_Parc wrote:Here's the article on Heroin, as the new white drug ...

http://news.yahoo.com/heroin-drug-choic ... 00239.html

Another risk you don't really have if you raise your kids in a rural Asian town. At most they'll drink a few beers growing up, get wasted a few times as most teenagers do. But no heroine, cocaine, XTC or even weed or any of that shit will be around. Never seen a junkie there anywhere outside the major cities.

Raising a family in America these days, especially in big cities, seems like madness.

Oxycontin abuse [ basically a prescription opiate derivative ] has also infiltrated the rural towns in America. For the most part, if a pharmacy gets robbed, usually, it's for the Oxycontin inventory. And then, what happens is that once a person develops long term tolerance for Oxycontin, the next level up is Morphine and Heroin. Almost every person I know, has a friend or an acquaintance, who's hooked on Oxycontin. It's one of the saddest stories of our times.

It truly is a sad story indeed.

This makes it all the more clear why the West is corrupt and the East isn't. We need to get as many good men from the West out of here and into the East as we can, before it all turns to shit and collapses. Not implying things haven't already turned to shit in a multitude of ways, it's just that I don't think we've seen the worst of it yet. There's more bad times ahead, more sad stories to be told.

MarcosZeitola wrote:

S_Parc wrote:Oxycontin abuse [ basically a prescription opiate derivative ] has also infiltrated the rural towns in America. For the most part, if a pharmacy gets robbed, usually, it's for the Oxycontin inventory. And then, what happens is that once a person develops long term tolerance for Oxycontin, the next level up is Morphine and Heroin. Almost every person I know, has a friend or an acquaintance, who's hooked on Oxycontin. It's one of the saddest stories of our times.

It truly is a sad story indeed.

This makes it all the more clear why the West is corrupt and the East isn't. We need to get as many good men from the West out of here and into the East as we can, before it all turns to shit and collapses. Not implying things haven't already turned to shit in a multitude of ways, it's just that I don't think we've seen the worst of it yet. There's more bad times ahead, more sad stories to be told.

No pun intended but here's a sign of the times, one of the pharmacies down the road, from where I live, has a sign up front ... "We don't carry Oxycontin"

If that's not sad then I don't know what is

zboy1 wrote:MarcosZeitola, please let your sons or daughters be proud of their Asian heritage! Don't have them end up being self-hating Asian American types or another Elliot Rogers, PLEASE!

Also, have them be very aware of their Filipino culture and background; that way, they can use their dual backgrounds to a great advantage, because Asia is the future, and the West is in decline.

OutWest--who is a White man married to a Filipina women, and has two mixed children--also agrees with this notion, and his doing everything possible to stay in the Philippines, and raise his kids to be proud mixed-race children who embrace their Asian side. Also, he wants them to take advantage of the economic center shifting towards Asia, and away from the West.

This post!!!! +∞

zboy1 wrote:MarcosZeitola, please let your sons or daughters be proud of their Asian heritage! Don't have them end up being self-hating Asian American types or another Elliot Rogers, PLEASE!

Also, have them be very aware of their Filipino culture and background; that way, they can use their dual backgrounds to a great advantage, because Asia is the future, and the West is in decline.

OutWest--who is a White man married to a Filipina women, and has two mixed children--also agrees with this notion, and his doing everything possible to stay in the Philippines, and raise his kids to be proud mixed-race children who embrace their Asian side. Also, he wants them to take advantage of the economic center shifting towards Asia, and away from the West.

This is quite true. I'm actually back in the USA for about 6 weeks, but what you say is correct. Many American have difficulty accepting Asian people at face value.
They have to pigeon-hole them as this or that, and layer it in with a few racial slurs.
If you can imagine, there are Universities and companies in the USA that are apparently
looking to limit the Asian population. Being as they can't take the competition, so called
"Liberal progressives" have decided its ok to discriminate against people so long as they are not Black or Latino.

http://minuiko.tumblr.com/post/79174122 ... ation-bill


In general, So called "Liberal progressive" Americans are such piles of Shite.
This law which would legitimize regulations against Asians was PASSED in the California State Senate this year.

For me, the move to the East is irreversible. I will be back in China this coming autumn
as I have cut an import/export deal with a Chinese Steel products company, and I can tell you, it is EASIER to do business in so called communist China than in the USA, and much more profitable. Of course, part of all this is that I want my kids to be very comfortable in Asia and to have a sense that the fit in and that they have pride in who they are.

OutWest wrote:

zboy1 wrote:MarcosZeitola, please let your sons or daughters be proud of their Asian heritage! Don't have them end up being self-hating Asian American types or another Elliot Rogers, PLEASE!

Also, have them be very aware of their Filipino culture and background; that way, they can use their dual backgrounds to a great advantage, because Asia is the future, and the West is in decline.

OutWest--who is a White man married to a Filipina women, and has two mixed children--also agrees with this notion, and his doing everything possible to stay in the Philippines, and raise his kids to be proud mixed-race children who embrace their Asian side. Also, he wants them to take advantage of the economic center shifting towards Asia, and away from the West.

This is quite true. I'm actually back in the USA for about 6 weeks, but what you say is correct. Many American have difficulty accepting Asian people at face value.
They have to pigeon-hole them as this or that, and layer it in with a few racial slurs.
If you can imagine, there are Universities and companies in the USA that are apparently
looking to limit the Asian population. Being as they can't take the competition, so called
"Liberal progressives" have decided its ok to discriminate against people so long as they are not Black or Latino.

http://minuiko.tumblr.com/post/79174122 ... ation-bill


In general, So called "Liberal progressive" Americans are such piles of Shite.
This law which would legitimize regulations against Asians was PASSED in the California State Senate this year.

For me, the move to the East is irreversible. I will be back in China this coming autumn
as I have cut an import/export deal with a Chinese Steel products company, and I can tell you, it is EASIER to do business in so called communist China than in the USA, and much more profitable. Of course, part of all this is that I want my kids to be very comfortable in Asia and to have a sense that the fit in and that they have pride in who they are.

Your life decisions are inspiring to me. Can I ask you a few questions?

1: How is your housing in the Philippines and was it a lot more affordable then out West?

2: What's the age gap between you and your wives and has it worked in your advantage?

3: How many more children do you plan on having, and is it easier and a lot cheapier to raise them there then it is in the West?

4: Are there any other Western men living in the Philippines that you know of who are as committed to integrating in their society as you are?

5: What things have you done to successfully intregrate in society there?

MarcosZeitola wrote:

OutWest wrote:

zboy1 wrote:MarcosZeitola, please let your sons or daughters be proud of their Asian heritage! Don't have them end up being self-hating Asian American types or another Elliot Rogers, PLEASE!

Also, have them be very aware of their Filipino culture and background; that way, they can use their dual backgrounds to a great advantage, because Asia is the future, and the West is in decline.

OutWest--who is a White man married to a Filipina women, and has two mixed children--also agrees with this notion, and his doing everything possible to stay in the Philippines, and raise his kids to be proud mixed-race children who embrace their Asian side. Also, he wants them to take advantage of the economic center shifting towards Asia, and away from the West.

This is quite true. I'm actually back in the USA for about 6 weeks, but what you say is correct. Many American have difficulty accepting Asian people at face value.
They have to pigeon-hole them as this or that, and layer it in with a few racial slurs.
If you can imagine, there are Universities and companies in the USA that are apparently
looking to limit the Asian population. Being as they can't take the competition, so called
"Liberal progressives" have decided its ok to discriminate against people so long as they are not Black or Latino.

http://minuiko.tumblr.com/post/79174122 ... ation-bill


In general, So called "Liberal progressive" Americans are such piles of Shite.
This law which would legitimize regulations against Asians was PASSED in the California State Senate this year.

For me, the move to the East is irreversible. I will be back in China this coming autumn
as I have cut an import/export deal with a Chinese Steel products company, and I can tell you, it is EASIER to do business in so called communist China than in the USA, and much more profitable. Of course, part of all this is that I want my kids to be very comfortable in Asia and to have a sense that the fit in and that they have pride in who they are.

Your life decisions are inspiring to me. Can I ask you a few questions?

1: How is your housing in the Philippines and was it a lot more affordable then out West?

2: What's the age gap between you and your wives and has it worked in your advantage?

3: How many more children do you plan on having, and is it easier and a lot cheapier to raise them there then it is in the West?

4: Are there any other Western men living in the Philippines that you know of who are as committed to integrating in their society as you are?

5: What things have you done to successfully intregrate in society there?

Thanks for the thoughtful questions-

1- Housing. In the USA, about 66% of the cost of a new house is labor. That allows for considerable savings if one takes advantage of the offset in labor costs.
Even in the Philippines, land and house values vary considerably. In Mindanao, there is not
much of a demand for houses by monied foreigners in most places, so land and houses can be cheaper...IF it is a place that you can live as a foreigner. Some places I would NOT
advise...That said, some places you can buy a house for $80,000 or even MUCH less, and it might be a house that would sell for hundreds of thousands in the US.
Rent can be expensive or cheap. With experience in the provinces, you can get good housing for less than 400 per month.

2- I was 20 years older than my first wife and 29 years older than my current wife.
Hard to say, if you are in good shape for your age, you can use it all to your advantage.
Really, I do not let it be a big deal.

3- I am at a total of 3 now...wife says she wants two...so we just might be busy for a while...lol It is somewhat cheaper, not dirt cheap, because if you are keeping higher health and safety standards it simply costs more than it does for most Filipinos.

4- Hmmm...I am integrated to a point. I will always be that "Poreigner".
But I am also very accepted and integrated in some ways into a local middle class and upper middle class structure, but on their terms. I live within those limits and everything is fine. My wife's family, especially her father, who I would take a bullet for, has really helped in all respects. Otherwise, I do not want or expect to really integrate, I just work for understanding and acceptance and I offer the same. I am not trying to go native...


5- Things I did that helped integrate, in context of #4....
Well high on the list was to court and marry a lovely local girl from a respected family.
After that was to maintain and build a reputation as a solid man who really respected the family I married into. We also have a small farm (Mangos) and we also employ several Filipino men as well as two women. We are generous and kind to our employees, but we are NOT pushovers. Also, we do socialize with some other Filipino families, and we very much follow the tradition of being generous hosts. We throw some great feeds! lol


and further, we are very active in charity and relief activities and have donated over 50 tons of rice to various emergencies in the last few years. We do not do this for recognition, we do it because we can and it is the right thing to do.

Hope this helps...

Repatriate wrote:Here's my experience from interacting with lots of mixed race people. I had a LOT of friends who were half white/half asian and a couple girlfriends who were this category too. I was in the west coast somewhere.

Mixed race kids tend to come from divorced parents. Interracial marriages don't last long so it leaves a lot of single mom or dad mixed kids living in varied conditions. I'm not racist this is just what I personally observed and interacted with. A lot of the kids had severe idetntiy issues and were angry at one race or another. Once again these are just my experiences..yours may be different down in buttfuck, USA but I somehow doubt it.

The mixed daughters were often above average in attractiveness but also had a history of promiscuity. After my former mixed girlfriend "moved on" she had a long string of boyfriends and basically became a whore before hitting the wall. She struggled hard with identity. I don't see why people assume females have it better..unless you want them to be promiscuous and lacking identity. A lot of mixed girls have these issues.

The mixed brother (one of my friends) became a gangbanger and then became a drug addict. He hung out with asians and mexicans because whites never accepted him.


So, that's how I view it. Good luck gents. Because you guys honestly don't have a clue.

This is COMPLETELY untrue. Mixed asian children can go either way, quite asian looking or very white looking. But the majority and average look more white than asian.
More asian looking
http://www.halfkorean.com/?page_id=9398

More typical
http://www.halfkorean.com/?page_id=2093

more white looking
http://www.halfkorean.com/?page_id=8779
http://www.halfkorean.com/?page_id=2036

For a darker skinned philipina, your child could often look somewhat hispanic looking, like say Jessica Alba, but perhaps a little darker.

For say Japanese & Koreans, many children will look quite white looking, like this guy:
http://www.halfkorean.com/?page_id=1469 or
http://www.halfkorean.com/?page_id=1241

or her
http://www.halfkorean.com/?page_id=8039
http://www.halfkorean.com/?page_id=8047

Another factor is that if you have more than one child, one could look quite asian and the other quite white.

Additionally a half asian child raised in Europe will be very different from a child from America.

There's no real way to predict if your children will do well with women. Even brothers of the same family can do completely differently. It will usually depend more on looks than race, particularly if they are mixed.

Even if both parents are attractive, that's no guarantee your kids can't be unattractive.


Your son could look like this guy:
http://www.halfkorean.com/?page_id=2607

I'm surprised that a lot of people haven't posted a lot of pics of actual mixed people. Here's a huge list:
http://www.halfkorean.com/?page_id=184

celery2010 wrote:

Repatriate wrote:Here's my experience from interacting with lots of mixed race people. I had a LOT of friends who were half white/half asian and a couple girlfriends who were this category too. I was in the west coast somewhere.

Mixed race kids tend to come from divorced parents. Interracial marriages don't last long so it leaves a lot of single mom or dad mixed kids living in varied conditions. I'm not racist this is just what I personally observed and interacted with. A lot of the kids had severe idetntiy issues and were angry at one race or another. Once again these are just my experiences..yours may be different down in buttfuck, USA but I somehow doubt it.

The mixed daughters were often above average in attractiveness but also had a history of promiscuity. After my former mixed girlfriend "moved on" she had a long string of boyfriends and basically became a whore before hitting the wall. She struggled hard with identity. I don't see why people assume females have it better..unless you want them to be promiscuous and lacking identity. A lot of mixed girls have these issues.

The mixed brother (one of my friends) became a gangbanger and then became a drug addict. He hung out with asians and mexicans because whites never accepted him.


So, that's how I view it. Good luck gents. Because you guys honestly don't have a clue.

This is COMPLETELY untrue. Mixed asian children can go either way, quite asian looking or very white looking. But the majority and average look more white than asian.


What exactly did I say that was "untrue" ? I said they the daughters are usually above average in attractiveness but it varies. Maybe I touched a nerve there somehow.

Interesting pics celery.

Do I look more Asian or White?

My full Chinese cousin said I look pretty Asian. In the South it's more noticeable. In New Jersey (by NYC) it's more ethnic, ethnic Whites, Chinese, Indian, etc.

In the South it's Black or very...White looking. I don't know how to describe it. Southern Whites look very different than the Whites around where I live.

abcdavid01 wrote:Interesting pics celery.

Do I look more Asian or White?

My full Chinese cousin said I look pretty Asian. In the South it's more noticeable. In New Jersey (by NYC) it's more ethnic, ethnic Whites, Chinese, Indian, etc.

In the South it's Black or very...White looking. I don't know how to describe it. Southern Whites look very different than the Whites around where I live.

I'm going to have to say more Latin, less Asian or "white", and part of the reason for that is that the Latin demographic is the largest growing group (or multitude of groups) in the country.

And I don't agree with Repatriate about the barrio because many Spanish (or Portuguese) speakers also live in the suburbs. In one of the high Brazilian diaspora towns, outside of Boston, I've seen a number of guys who look like you. I even worked with one back in Rio.

Thus, outside of let's say Hawaii, there isn't much of this concept of part-White/part-Asian in the mainstream, since not everyone in Hollywood looks like Kristin Kreuk.

Repatriate wrote:

celery2010 wrote:

Repatriate wrote:Here's my experience from interacting with lots of mixed race people. I had a LOT of friends who were half white/half asian and a couple girlfriends who were this category too. I was in the west coast somewhere.

Mixed race kids tend to come from divorced parents. Interracial marriages don't last long so it leaves a lot of single mom or dad mixed kids living in varied conditions. I'm not racist this is just what I personally observed and interacted with. A lot of the kids had severe idetntiy issues and were angry at one race or another. Once again these are just my experiences..yours may be different down in buttfuck, USA but I somehow doubt it.

The mixed daughters were often above average in attractiveness but also had a history of promiscuity. After my former mixed girlfriend "moved on" she had a long string of boyfriends and basically became a whore before hitting the wall. She struggled hard with identity. I don't see why people assume females have it better..unless you want them to be promiscuous and lacking identity. A lot of mixed girls have these issues.

The mixed brother (one of my friends) became a gangbanger and then became a drug addict. He hung out with asians and mexicans because whites never accepted him.


So, that's how I view it. Good luck gents. Because you guys honestly don't have a clue.

This is COMPLETELY untrue. Mixed asian children can go either way, quite asian looking or very white looking. But the majority and average look more white than asian.


What exactly did I say that was "untrue" ? I said they the daughters are usually above average in attractiveness but it varies. Maybe I touched a nerve there somehow.

You imply that mixed people grow up to have psychological problems. It is like anyone else. Sure this can be an issue for some people. But if this is your conclusion, what do you think of mixed/multicultural/mestizo societies.

So all mexicans or brazilians have identity issues?

abcdavid01 wrote:Interesting pics celery.

Do I look more Asian or White?

My full Chinese cousin said I look pretty Asian. In the South it's more noticeable. In New Jersey (by NYC) it's more ethnic, ethnic Whites, Chinese, Indian, etc.

In the South it's Black or very...White looking. I don't know how to describe it. Southern Whites look very different than the Whites around where I live.

I think you look typical (in this picture). Not extremely Asian or white in appearance. Although this kind of thing can vary by the picture, age, haircut, whatever.

Many people who are "typical" in my opinion, aren't necessarily identifiable as "asian"-- which is why is why some say that often look mediterranean/latino

Some people who are half asian play whites on TV--
Kristin Kreuk
Keanu Reeves
Chloe Bennet

Others play asians
Russell Wong
Daniel Henney
Lindsay Price

OutWest wrote:

MarcosZeitola wrote:

OutWest wrote:

zboy1 wrote:MarcosZeitola, please let your sons or daughters be proud of their Asian heritage! Don't have them end up being self-hating Asian American types or another Elliot Rogers, PLEASE!

Also, have them be very aware of their Filipino culture and background; that way, they can use their dual backgrounds to a great advantage, because Asia is the future, and the West is in decline.

OutWest--who is a White man married to a Filipina women, and has two mixed children--also agrees with this notion, and his doing everything possible to stay in the Philippines, and raise his kids to be proud mixed-race children who embrace their Asian side. Also, he wants them to take advantage of the economic center shifting towards Asia, and away from the West.

This is quite true. I'm actually back in the USA for about 6 weeks, but what you say is correct. Many American have difficulty accepting Asian people at face value.
They have to pigeon-hole them as this or that, and layer it in with a few racial slurs.
If you can imagine, there are Universities and companies in the USA that are apparently
looking to limit the Asian population. Being as they can't take the competition, so called
"Liberal progressives" have decided its ok to discriminate against people so long as they are not Black or Latino.

http://minuiko.tumblr.com/post/79174122 ... ation-bill


In general, So called "Liberal progressive" Americans are such piles of Shite.
This law which would legitimize regulations against Asians was PASSED in the California State Senate this year.

For me, the move to the East is irreversible. I will be back in China this coming autumn
as I have cut an import/export deal with a Chinese Steel products company, and I can tell you, it is EASIER to do business in so called communist China than in the USA, and much more profitable. Of course, part of all this is that I want my kids to be very comfortable in Asia and to have a sense that the fit in and that they have pride in who they are.

Your life decisions are inspiring to me. Can I ask you a few questions?

1: How is your housing in the Philippines and was it a lot more affordable then out West?

2: What's the age gap between you and your wives and has it worked in your advantage?

3: How many more children do you plan on having, and is it easier and a lot cheapier to raise them there then it is in the West?

4: Are there any other Western men living in the Philippines that you know of who are as committed to integrating in their society as you are?

5: What things have you done to successfully intregrate in society there?

Thanks for the thoughtful questions-

1- Housing. In the USA, about 66% of the cost of a new house is labor. That allows for considerable savings if one takes advantage of the offset in labor costs.
Even in the Philippines, land and house values vary considerably. In Mindanao, there is not
much of a demand for houses by monied foreigners in most places, so land and houses can be cheaper...IF it is a place that you can live as a foreigner. Some places I would NOT
advise...That said, some places you can buy a house for $80,000 or even MUCH less, and it might be a house that would sell for hundreds of thousands in the US.
Rent can be expensive or cheap. With experience in the provinces, you can get good housing for less than 400 per month.

2- I was 20 years older than my first wife and 29 years older than my current wife.
Hard to say, if you are in good shape for your age, you can use it all to your advantage.
Really, I do not let it be a big deal.

3- I am at a total of 3 now...wife says she wants two...so we just might be busy for a while...lol It is somewhat cheaper, not dirt cheap, because if you are keeping higher health and safety standards it simply costs more than it does for most Filipinos.

4- Hmmm...I am integrated to a point. I will always be that "Poreigner".
But I am also very accepted and integrated in some ways into a local middle class and upper middle class structure, but on their terms. I live within those limits and everything is fine. My wife's family, especially her father, who I would take a bullet for, has really helped in all respects. Otherwise, I do not want or expect to really integrate, I just work for understanding and acceptance and I offer the same. I am not trying to go native...


5- Things I did that helped integrate, in context of #4....
Well high on the list was to court and marry a lovely local girl from a respected family.
After that was to maintain and build a reputation as a solid man who really respected the family I married into. We also have a small farm (Mangos) and we also employ several Filipino men as well as two women. We are generous and kind to our employees, but we are NOT pushovers. Also, we do socialize with some other Filipino families, and we very much follow the tradition of being generous hosts. We throw some great feeds! lol


and further, we are very active in charity and relief activities and have donated over 50 tons of rice to various emergencies in the last few years. We do not do this for recognition, we do it because we can and it is the right thing to do.

Hope this helps...

It definitely does help! Thank you for your detailed answers. I am not looking to become exactly like the locals either in every way, as I don't think that will be possible. Some of my own values, beliefs and behaviorism differ too greatly from theirs for me to every be entirely like them. Ultimately, my main goal is for myself and my children to be a well-integrated part of society. And for them, like you said, to take great pride in their Asian background as well as in their White background. Because it takes two to tango, and the last thing anyone wants is for a child to ignore part of their heritage. To instill within them a sense of pride for both sides of their family, for their roots, their culture. That is a valuable thing. A vital thing, even.

As for me, $80,000 is still a bit expensive. I am young and lack the funds for such an investment. I plan on living in a very small town up in the mountains where it is said one can buy an entire mountain for less then two thousand dollars. From what I understand housing is the most pricey in urban areas or major cities. I hope it will be a lot less expensive in the province.

abcdavid01 wrote:Interesting pics celery.

Do I look more Asian or White?

My full Chinese cousin said I look pretty Asian. In the South it's more noticeable. In New Jersey (by NYC) it's more ethnic, ethnic Whites, Chinese, Indian, etc.

In the South it's Black or very...White looking. I don't know how to describe it. Southern Whites look very different than the Whites around where I live.

You could pass for a pale Latino. Like you have the sort of look that one does not typically see in a typical white person, nor in your average Asian person. I've seen Eastern Europeans who look sort of similar to you, a few Turks and a Bulgarian. It's the type of look that does not make you stand out, nor blend it, easily. The type of guy that would make people wonder... "Is he this? Is he that?".

I think if you'd have children with a Latina or Middle Eastern, a Eurasian even African woman, you'd have some very interesting looking and probably quite attractive offspring.