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Postby fschmidt » Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:25 am

Americans. The land is fine, but the people aren't.
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Postby Wolfeye » Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:40 am

Why do you all think this is? I've noticed that any culture that comes here is diluted. Another thing is that, for all the talk of diversity, there's a lot of defacing of any culture (ex: acting like one culture's "THIS" is the same as another culture's "THAT" despite being different things). It's like there's something about the lifestyle that tends to suck the distinctiveness & vigor out of the people.

I think a major problem is THINKING BY ADJUCATION. That's "reality is what I say it is" thinking. Now, if reality was really formed by recognition- nobody would get hit by a car they didnt see coming or drown trying to walk on the water and no unexpected good things would happen, either. I figure that a major, major point is that a lot people make an argument (about whatever thing) that basically amounts to reality taking a coffee break. This makes for a foundation problem with pretty much anything. I don't know how much someone actually can think that way, though- someone can't aim against what they don't know about. Someone like that definitely understands it when something doesn't go their way & figure out ways to direct the situation that way- even covering it up to top things off. These actions require orientation. I know I've said it before, but properties don't change by designation. If a doctor where to poison someone with a needle, it's still murder & the same goes for any other assaultive situation. Look at the effects of all these different drugs they put out: they're destructive to someone's health, yet DEEMED to not do these things. It can be DESIGNATED safe, but there's a contradiction between description & situation. There's so many things that someone does not have happen by choice & then they basically get driven over a cliff by a bunch of enemies with a certification of expertise.

All these kinds of things: Exaltation of a problem into a non-issue, incompetance being disregarded & allowed to cause failure, fruadulent claims of quality that sabotage someone's actions, constant conflicts of interest, persecutions despite situation- All these things I believe are either caused by or (more likely) are camouflaged by this style of thinking. A situation is what it consists of, but the general argument tends to be "what happen ISN'T what occurs."
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Postby fschmidt » Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:47 am

Wolfeye wrote:I think a major problem is THINKING BY ADJUCATION. That's "reality is what I say it is" thinking.

This comes from the Christian Second Great Awakening in America in the 1800s. With this, every American got a direct line to God, so they had no more reason to bother observing reality. I explained the details here:

http://www.coalpha.org/The-Rise-and-Fal ... 75309.html
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Re: Things I Hate About America

Postby E Irizarry R&B Singer » Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:30 am

IraqVet2003 wrote:1.) OBSESSION/WORSHIP OF MONEY-One of the biggest things I hate the most about America is the WORSHIP OF "THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR". While I understand that people have to make a living to support themselves and/or families and that there is no such thing as a "free lunch", but I believe AMERICAN CULTURE focuses far too much on MATERIALISM, HYPE, AND OVER CONSUMPTION!!!! And because of this many people have become WORKAHOLICS AND WAGE-SLAVES just to maintain the lifestyle. While making GREEDY corporations and bankers very wealthy. The U.S. Dollar (a.k.a FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES) itself is NOT backed by gold, silver, or other precious metals. It is printed out of THIN AIR by the FEDERAL RESERVE which by the way is NOT part of the federal government ( just like Federal Express is not part of the U.S. Postal service) but a PRIVATE CENTRAL BANK that controls the U.S. economy. This evil institution neither has been audited nor is it accountable to Congress.

2.) DEBT BASED ECONOMY-The second thing I hate about America is that almost everything is based on debt. This includes mortgages, car notes, credit cards, student loans, business loans, payday loans, etc. All of this debt is controlled by bankers on Wall Street. Even the U.S. government itself is over 16 TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT!!!!! Making the United States the WORLD'S LARGEST DEBTOR NATION!!

3.)AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY-The third thing I despise about America is it's role as "THE WORLD'S POLICEMAN" or what I call "GLOBOCOP". The U.S. is almost always meddling in the foreign affairs of other nations. Either by trying to overthrow government by covert means (by using the C.I.A.) or by overt military action ranging from drone strikes, cruise missiles, to waging full scale war (like Afghanistan and Iraq). Also by supporting dictators and supplying weapons to radical terrorists groups. NOT to spread freedom and democracy. Only the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL-COMPLEX, MAJOR CORPORATIONS, AND INTERNATIONAL BANKERS benefit from these senseless wars!!!

4.)THE MISTREATMENT OF VETERANS BY THE GOVERNMENT-The fourth I thing I REALLY HATE is how the government treats military veterans. Everything from the V.A. hospitals to the experimental drugs and shots that have been used on the troops is the ultimate betrayal of those who risked their lives serving the government. And to make matters worse, the DHS and FBI are saying Returning/ Military Veterans are now considered the new "DOMESTIC TERRORIST THREAT"??!!!

5.)AMERICAN SOCIAL/DATING SCENE- The fifth thing I don't like is how most people are divided into many SOCIAL CLIQUES. It is very hard to break into groups when you are new to an area. It can be very isolating, alienating, and lonely when you don't fit in. And as Winston has noticed there is NO REAL SINGLES SCENE IN AMERICA other mostly than bars and nightclubs.

6.)OBSESSION WITH RACE-I'm sick and tired of the STUPID race issue in America. I'm tired of Hollywood, the music industry, and the news media of continuing to push negative stereotypes of the black men. Because not all of us are thugs/criminals, in jail, comedians, professional athletes, or hip hop artist with "bling" or "swag". There many black males that are also successful businessmen, doctors, lawyers, teachers,etc. who never have had a criminal record and are highly intelligent, hard working (such as myself) that don't fit the "image" of what is portrayed as a "bad" black man. People in America of ALL RACES must learn to stop being afraid of each other and realize we have MORE IN COMMON despite any CULTURAL OR PERSONAL DIFFERENCES.

7.)FEMINISM-Finally while I don't hate women, I despise the idea that feminism continues to portray most men as fools, pigs, creeps, or predators. The U.S. media helps to blow up this image of "bad" male in T.V. sitcoms, talk shows, movies, etc. Also, the court system (divorce/family) is usually heavily biased against males. And if the alimony or child-support isn't paid a man is often sent to prison. In addition, sometimes false sexual harassment, rape, or abuse can ruin a man's life and/or career. But most of all I think feminism has corrupted many American women of all races with a false sense of entitlement, superiority, and bloated egos, thus making the dating scene and the institution of marriage a NIGHTMARE FOR MANY MEN in the U.S. (and the west).


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Re: Things I Hate About America

Postby Robert77 » Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:23 pm

IraqVet2003 wrote:1.) OBSESSION/WORSHIP OF MONEY-One of the biggest things I hate the most about America is the WORSHIP OF "THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR". While I understand that people have to make a living to support themselves and/or families and that there is no such thing as a "free lunch", but I believe AMERICAN CULTURE focuses far too much on MATERIALISM, HYPE, AND OVER CONSUMPTION!!!! And because of this many people have become WORKAHOLICS AND WAGE-SLAVES just to maintain the lifestyle. While making GREEDY corporations and bankers very wealthy. The U.S. Dollar (a.k.a FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES) itself is NOT backed by gold, silver, or other precious metals. It is printed out of THIN AIR by the FEDERAL RESERVE which by the way is NOT part of the federal government ( just like Federal Express is not part of the U.S. Postal service) but a PRIVATE CENTRAL BANK that controls the U.S. economy. This evil institution neither has been audited nor is it accountable to Congress.

2.) DEBT BASED ECONOMY-The second thing I hate about America is that almost everything is based on debt. This includes mortgages, car notes, credit cards, student loans, business loans, payday loans, etc. All of this debt is controlled by bankers on Wall Street. Even the U.S. government itself is over 16 TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT!!!!! Making the United States the WORLD'S LARGEST DEBTOR NATION!!

3.)AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY-The third thing I despise about America is it's role as "THE WORLD'S POLICEMAN" or what I call "GLOBOCOP". The U.S. is almost always meddling in the foreign affairs of other nations. Either by trying to overthrow government by covert means (by using the C.I.A.) or by overt military action ranging from drone strikes, cruise missiles, to waging full scale war (like Afghanistan and Iraq). Also by supporting dictators and supplying weapons to radical terrorists groups. NOT to spread freedom and democracy. Only the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL-COMPLEX, MAJOR CORPORATIONS, AND INTERNATIONAL BANKERS benefit from these senseless wars!!!

4.)THE MISTREATMENT OF VETERANS BY THE GOVERNMENT-The fourth I thing I REALLY HATE is how the government treats military veterans. Everything from the V.A. hospitals to the experimental drugs and shots that have been used on the troops is the ultimate betrayal of those who risked their lives serving the government. And to make matters worse, the DHS and FBI are saying Returning/ Military Veterans are now considered the new "DOMESTIC TERRORIST THREAT"??!!!

5.)AMERICAN SOCIAL/DATING SCENE- The fifth thing I don't like is how most people are divided into many SOCIAL CLIQUES. It is very hard to break into groups when you are new to an area. It can be very isolating, alienating, and lonely when you don't fit in. And as Winston has noticed there is NO REAL SINGLES SCENE IN AMERICA other mostly than bars and nightclubs.

6.)OBSESSION WITH RACE-I'm sick and tired of the STUPID race issue in America. I'm tired of Hollywood, the music industry, and the news media of continuing to push negative stereotypes of the black men. Because not all of us are thugs/criminals, in jail, comedians, professional athletes, or hip hop artist with "bling" or "swag". There many black males that are also successful businessmen, doctors, lawyers, teachers,etc. who never have had a criminal record and are highly intelligent, hard working (such as myself) that don't fit the "image" of what is portrayed as a "bad" black man. People in America of ALL RACES must learn to stop being afraid of each other and realize we have MORE IN COMMON despite any CULTURAL OR PERSONAL DIFFERENCES.

7.)FEMINISM-Finally while I don't hate women, I despise the idea that feminism continues to portray most men as fools, pigs, creeps, or predators. The U.S. media helps to blow up this image of "bad" male in T.V. sitcoms, talk shows, movies, etc. Also, the court system (divorce/family) is usually heavily biased against males. And if the alimony or child-support isn't paid a man is often sent to prison. In addition, sometimes false sexual harassment, rape, or abuse can ruin a man's life and/or career. But most of all I think feminism has corrupted many American women of all races with a false sense of entitlement, superiority, and bloated egos, thus making the dating scene and the institution of marriage a NIGHTMARE FOR MANY MEN in the U.S. (and the west).


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Postby Wolfeye » Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:27 pm

fshmidt- Very interesting. That Finney guy f***ed things up pretty good, huh? There's a Sioux saying "A humble man never stumbles." The arrogant guy would have his head in the air & never notice what was on the ground to trip over. Someone that's too arrogant to catch their own mistakes.
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Postby Robert77 » Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:41 pm

I just got home from Europe...... so this morning while at the Brussels int. airport I couldn't help but notice how the average European would sort of dress up when they had to fly somewhere, plenty of girls in high heels, tight pants, wearing make up with their hair nicely done getting ready to board their respective flights, then suddenly out of nowhere comes this horde of like 40 Americans, I think they were college students because they were all in their early to mid twenties and they all had that college student douchebag look to them

the men were wearing mostly nike shoes with low socks or f***ing slippers (who wears slippers in europe to get on a plane?), some of them had beer bellies despite being young, shorts, big shirts and those f***ing baseball caps rednecks often wear in america.

the women were also mostly wearing sandals, those tiny shorts many girls in the US wear in the summer (some of them with visible cellulite hanging out) no make up, gap sweaters, pony tails, bad skin.

the classical american look for males and females.

I overhead the conversations, the men would use "DUDE" every five damn words... dude this, dude that.....
as for the women, your typical "OMG IT'S LIKE YOU KNOW? LIKE LIKE LIKE OMG" Two of them were constantly cursing "f***ing this, f***ing shit, f***ing that, f***ing hey" they all looked conceited as f**k, even though most were around a 4 or 5 in the hotness scale!!!!

Compared to the europeans, they were SO UGLY!!!! they stood out like a sore thumb, they were all so tacky looking, so loud!!!

there were several asians and indians in the group, but the group was comprised of mostly white americans

I don't know why the Americanized westernized look doesn't suit indians, it's like they look out of place for some reason... as for the two asian american females in the group, they all had that distinctive cheap asian-american skank that's had way too much white dick look to them.

The asian guy in the group was also loud like his white american counterparts, and he was wearing those douchebag sport shoes that have specific compartment for the toes....

SO DAMN LOUD, the whole terminal took notice of their presence

FAT
UGLY
LOUD
TACKY
OBNOXIOUS
CHEAP LOOKING

such a f***ing low class, tacky disgrace of a people!
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Postby E Irizarry R&B Singer » Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:43 pm

I hate to sound like a broken, reDUMBdant poster, but here's the link which best describes this thread in a nutshell:

Polyglot Benny got this one in a smash:

Dude wrote this article in THREE YEARS AGO and it's still in heavy rotation as it were Pink Floyd's Dark Side of The Moon album!!!!! :shock:
The thread literally pissed off so many Americans that they cannot stop going back and poppin' s.hit on that blog. Check it out now:

http://www.fluentin3months.com/usa-clashes/
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Postby S_Parc » Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:52 pm

E Irizarry R&B Singer wrote:it's still in heavy rotation as it were Pink Floyd's Dark Side of The Moon album!!!!!


Speaking of Floyd, the biggest mistake they made was not to call it quits with 'The Wall'.

One can't go from a pure classic album to a bunch of mediocre followups, in such a short period of time.
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Postby Anti-American » Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:08 pm

@Robert77: What do those douchebag sport shoes look like?
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Postby Robert77 » Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:39 pm

Anti-American wrote:@Robert77: What do those douchebag sport shoes look like?


http://blogs.militarytimes.com/outside- ... r-shoe.jpg

like this
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Postby E Irizarry R&B Singer » Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:53 pm

S_Parc wrote:
E Irizarry R&B Singer wrote:it's still in heavy rotation as it were Pink Floyd's Dark Side of The Moon album!!!!!


Speaking of Floyd, the biggest mistake they made was not to call it quits with 'The Wall'.

One can't go from a pure classic album to a bunch of mediocre followups, in such a short period of time.


Now wait a minute, "The Wall" is a classic. It's just not at the tier that DSOTM was at.
KIZZ should have called it quits after "I Wanna Rock And Roll All Night"...when Paul Stanley became the lead in the 80s and dropped
the make-up, I was like, "What type of s.hit is this?"

LOL I had to quid-pro-quo ya, man.
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Postby Anti-American » Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:34 pm

Robert77 wrote:
Anti-American wrote:@Robert77: What do those douchebag sport shoes look like?


http://blogs.militarytimes.com/outside- ... r-shoe.jpg

like this


Those awful things.

Americans dress like slobs. Americans are the worst dress people on the planet. Europeans dress well and are stylish.
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Postby nicho12 » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:14 am

starchild5 wrote:On a ground level....Being from India....White People I have observed are a different race than rest of humanity and if we delve into conspiracy that lame stream media refuse to acknowledge ..There resonance frequency matches more with Mars than earth...Google it...

Everyone tries to copy white culture and fail miserably at it....We all over do it :) ...All immigrants misunderstand the concept of freedom that white culture provides...

Thank god someone is talking about waving flags in America of the country they came from..It look sooo stupid....Indians also do this, Filipinos, Koreans...everyone does this in America...celebrate their some shity festivals in America to look more proud...I used to get irritated with this waving flag thingy when i was 15 years old..and i used to tell my parents...why are Indians doing this in another country....if Americans did that in India...they would be put in prison...

The immigrants aka other races Just don't get white people......They don't value what you value most...They totally misunderstand what you do and copy it and fail miserably to look cool..like most blacks, latinos, Asian Americans do.....There is no class, no good vibe...even my grand mother used to feel it...and make fun of it..when they showed it on our local TV some events.....Its just the Vibe....everyone feels it...

White people have now more respect for remote tribes in Africa and Amazons who are bare naked and barely speak any language than Immigrants in America :lol:

There is this sense of discipline, honesty, sincerity and lack of respect in all other races....They do everything else but does not want to embed the inner core of white culture....as a result they become shallow, fake...When white guys go wild and party..There is still some class but when others do it...The vibe just does not sync well...


We should stick to what we are then we will have more respect from white dominated countries....

Winston....became what he is..because he adopted to white culture and understood it..if he was to remain in Taiwan..no one would have known him..If he was to immigrate to India....:lol: ..He would have been just a number...same in Japan, Korea, Africa...I cannot think of any other place than white dominated country that would have made Winston what he is today...

FREEDOM....which is what white culture provides...to explore who you truly are...


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However, on a higher level....All humanity is manipulated by darker forces....white race shouldn't even be on earth...we are all being manipulated and are on a different evolutionary scale....all white race should be at a separate planet ...all blacks should be at a separate planet, all Asian too etc...we all are evolving to best of our abilities and the darkness agenda is precisely to mix us up in the name of multiculturalism with the end results that we all end up being f**cked....

and the worse is even when we try to come together..It gives us a worse platform with money as a base to relate with....

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On a darker level....

Just skip it.....The darkness has already made programs to make your life more miserable....make no mistake....white, black, Asians....The end is not near....as they always say it in reverse....It is taking us to a place...where our misery will be 100 fold....if you think your life is miserable in America....it will get worse....on planet earth....

You need to think on a galactic level....join forces...its very much ok...if you only go with whites or blacks or Asians or be alone :)....racism is the least thingy we need to worry now....There are much much higher forces at play in coming times....The problem you face from humanity should be least of your worries.


first of all what is white dominated culture?
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Postby S_Parc » Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:46 am

E Irizarry R&B Singer wrote:
S_Parc wrote:
E Irizarry R&B Singer wrote:it's still in heavy rotation as it were Pink Floyd's Dark Side of The Moon album!!!!!


Speaking of Floyd, the biggest mistake they made was not to call it quits with 'The Wall'.

One can't go from a pure classic album to a bunch of mediocre followups, in such a short period of time.


Now wait a minute, "The Wall" is a classic. It's just not at the tier that DSOTM was at.
KIZZ should have called it quits after "I Wanna Rock And Roll All Night"...when Paul Stanley became the lead in the 80s and dropped
the make-up, I was like, "What type of s.hit is this?"

LOL I had to quid-pro-quo ya, man.


C'mon Kiss? That band is like the Sha Na Na of glam rock :wink:

Here's Pink Floyd, post psychedelic Syd Barrett era ...

Meddle -- not quite a classic but exceptional, 4 out of 5 stars
Dark Side of the Moon --- one of the greatest albums of all time, 5+ stars out of 5
Wish You Were Here --- classic album, 5 out of 5 stars
Animals --- excellent, all around greatness, 5 out of 5 stars
The Wall --- one of the best double CD concept albums, also 5 out of 5 stars

And that's the point where they needed to quit.

Then, comes

Final Cut --- 2.5 out of 5 stars, boring
Momentary Lapse of Reason --- 2 out of 5 stars, a real snooze-a-thon
Division Bell --- 2 out of 5 stars, a complete rip off of all their prior material

That's a true fall from grace. If they'd broken up right around the time of 'The Wall', they would get a legacy like Buddy Holly or the Beatles. Ppl have always asked, what if Buddy Holly didn't get on that plane on that February day? What if the Beatles had stayed together? Unfortunately, no one will ever ask that question about Floyd.
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