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If Hillary Clinton wins, it's over for America

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Re: If Hillary Clinton wins, it's over for America

Postby tom » Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:17 am

Hillary Clinton almost does not matter.
There has been a gradual shift that has happened - the Democratic Party is operationally the conservative party. The ones behind the old moneyed entrench want no change interest.
The Republicans don't know what to do.
Teddy Roosevelt was a Republican when he was president.
In 1912 Teddy Roosevelt created Bull Moose Party, it was a progressive party, neither Democrats or Republicans were willing to do what needed to be done.
At one time the Democratic party was the conservative party, they were the Jim Crow party, this all changed when FDR was elected. Before FDR all blacks always voted Republican.
The Whig Party is no more.
Will the Republican Party disperse?
Will the Libertarian Party be the new progressives?
Will there be three parties?
There is a clear need for things to be redefined, I think this is beyond question. The question is how and when it will happen.

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Uncertainty is the only thing you can be sure of. If you don't like change, you're going to like irrelevance even less.

Often times social problems are solved with some hypocrisy like everyone is created equal, like were all suppose to believe we are all clones. A better way to look at this is everyone is equal before the law or just because someone is different does not give you the right to mistreat them. Overtime hypocrisies loose there usefulness and become abused causing more problems than they solve. Change become necessary.

Look at the Haredi Jews in Israel. When Israel was founded they were a small part of the population. It was no problem giving them a free ride. Today they are a sizable portion of the general population in Israel. Haredi Jews do not work but live off state welfare. Haredi Jews have huge family sizes. Haredi Jews will not serve in the IDF. They demand progressively more accommodations and conformity to there lifestyle choices. The State of Israel can no longer ignore, change is necessary for Israel to survive.

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Re: If Hillary Clinton wins, it's over for America

Postby Rock » Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:52 am

Winston wrote:The law can't prevent men from traveling abroad or moving abroad, for whatever reason.


In practice they can pretty much keep you Stateside if they really want, by creating all kinds of excuses not to issue you a passport. Without a valid and current passport, virtually no country on the planet will let you enter. Here are some reasons State Department could use not to issue you a US passport or even to cancel your existing one:

- you owe child support (already a reality).

- you are being audited by IRS or you have already been slapped with a delinquent tax bill which you have yet to settle.

- you were discovered to have failed to file FBARs on overseas accounts.

- you are registered as a sex offender list.

- you are currently involved as a defendant in any criminal or even civil lawsuit.

- you are suspected of being a terrorist or you are on a no-fly list.

- you have a record for having been arrested and perhaps convicted for visiting a prostitute.

You see how easy it can be for them? Don't be naive about these things.
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Re: If Hillary Clinton wins, it's over for America

Postby Winston » Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:02 am

Rock wrote:
Winston wrote:The law can't prevent men from traveling abroad or moving abroad, for whatever reason.


In practice they can pretty much keep you Stateside if they really want, by creating all kinds of excuses not to issue you a passport. Without a valid and current passport, virtually no country on the planet will let you enter. Here are some reasons State Department could use not to issue you a US passport or even to cancel your existing one:

- you owe child support (already a reality).

- you are being audited by IRS or you have already been slapped with a delinquent tax bill which you have yet to settle.

- you were discovered to have failed to file FBARs on overseas accounts.

- you are registered as a sex offender list.

- you are currently involved as a defendant in any criminal or even civil lawsuit.

- you are suspected of being a terrorist or you are on a no-fly list.

- you have a record for having been arrested and perhaps convicted for visiting a prostitute.

You see how easy it can be for them? Don't be naive about these things.


Sure they can target specific guys if they want. But im talking about making laws against all men in general. Unless you are a threat to someone powerful, they wont bother with you. They tend to go after people who expose conspiracies more than people who promote mens rights or global dating.
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Re: If Hillary Clinton wins, it's over for America

Postby droid » Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:05 am

Rock wrote:- you have a record for having been arrested and perhaps convicted for visiting a prostitute.
You see how easy it can be for them? Don't be naive about these things.


Yeah that's freaking unbelievable, that's one of the questions on the IMBRA form, motherf*ckers
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Re: If Hillary Clinton wins, it's over for America

Postby Rock » Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:11 am

Winston wrote:
Rock wrote:
Winston wrote:The law can't prevent men from traveling abroad or moving abroad, for whatever reason.


In practice they can pretty much keep you Stateside if they really want, by creating all kinds of excuses not to issue you a passport. Without a valid and current passport, virtually no country on the planet will let you enter. Here are some reasons State Department could use not to issue you a US passport or even to cancel your existing one:

- you owe child support (already a reality).

- you are being audited by IRS or you have already been slapped with a delinquent tax bill which you have yet to settle.

- you were discovered to have failed to file FBARs on overseas accounts.

- you are registered as a sex offender list.

- you are currently involved as a defendant in any criminal or even civil lawsuit.

- you are suspected of being a terrorist or you are on a no-fly list.

- you have a record for having been arrested and perhaps convicted for visiting a prostitute.

You see how easy it can be for them? Don't be naive about these things.


Sure they can target specific guys if they want. But im talking about making laws against all men in general. Unless you are a threat to someone powerful, they wont bother with you. They tend to go after people who expose conspiracies more than people who promote mens rights or global dating.


They might even add one about minimum gross reported income for previous years which could affect you (ah but you're one of the lucky ones w a second passport so you don't have much to worry about) lol. It seems to me that a lot of what they do affects the little guy. That was certainly the case with the offshore account witch hunt a few years ago. Many affected had only modest accounts just a few 10s of thousands of dollars.
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Re: If Hillary Clinton wins, it's over for America

Postby Winston » Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:32 am

Jesus, Rock. Have you lost it? Why are you posting incriminating info about me that could be seen by the IRS or NSA? Don't you know that they can check this forum too? They could easily have bots that scan all forums for incriminating evidence. How would you like it Rock, if I asked you about your offshore bank accounts and whether you reported them to the IRS or US government? Jesus Rock. I thought you were a discreet gentleman. But you seem to have a need to condescend others and play devil's advocate, even to the point of revealing incriminating info on a forum. It's part of your personality.

Generally, the IRS goes after those with big bank accounts, not the little guy with a few thousand. They don't waste their time on guys with a little money. Haven't you noticed that?
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Re: If Hillary Clinton wins, it's over for America

Postby Rock » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:46 pm

Winston wrote:Jesus, Rock. Have you lost it? Why are you posting incriminating info about me that could be seen by the IRS or NSA? Don't you know that they can check this forum too? They could easily have bots that scan all forums for incriminating evidence. How would you like it Rock, if I asked you about your offshore bank accounts and whether you reported them to the IRS or US government? Jesus Rock. I thought you were a discreet gentleman. But you seem to have a need to condescend others and play devil's advocate, even to the point of revealing incriminating info on a forum. It's part of your personality.

Generally, the IRS goes after those with big bank accounts, not the little guy with a few thousand. They don't waste their time on guys with a little money. Haven't you noticed that?


What incriminating info have I posted about you?

All I've implied is that you might not meet the minimum income threshold if they set one. I believe one has already been set for an American citizen attempting to bring in a foreign spouse or fiance and you might not meet that one either cus your income is very low from a US perspective.

Are you sure you're not the one losing it? You yourself have posted many times on this forum what your income and stated the figures. Yet I've not even said anything specific, just implied that your income is very low. Again, what have I said incriminating or even new?

I noticed you're talking a bit erratically on chat as well these past couple days. Are you ok over there?
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Re: If Hillary Clinton wins, it's over for America

Postby zboy1 » Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:04 pm

Rock: Hillary attractive in the past. Really? :| :shock:

Every time I think of Hitlery, I can't help but vomit. She's literally the Anti-Christ in my opinion.
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Re: If Hillary Clinton wins, it's over for America

Postby Ghost » Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:43 pm

zboy1 wrote:Rock: Hillary attractive in the past. Really? :| :shock:

Every time I think of Hitlery, I can't help but vomit. She's literally the Anti-Christ in my opinion.


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Re: If Hillary Clinton wins, it's over for America

Postby jamesbond » Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:10 pm

zboy1 wrote:Every time I think of Hitlery, I can't help but vomit. She's literally the Anti-Christ in my opinion.

She might be the anti Christ, when she looks in the mirror here is what she sees. :P

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Re: If Hillary Clinton wins, it's over for America

Postby Winston » Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:25 pm

Rock wrote:
Winston wrote:Jesus, Rock. Have you lost it? Why are you posting incriminating info about me that could be seen by the IRS or NSA? Don't you know that they can check this forum too? They could easily have bots that scan all forums for incriminating evidence. How would you like it Rock, if I asked you about your offshore bank accounts and whether you reported them to the IRS or US government? Jesus Rock. I thought you were a discreet gentleman. But you seem to have a need to condescend others and play devil's advocate, even to the point of revealing incriminating info on a forum. It's part of your personality.

Generally, the IRS goes after those with big bank accounts, not the little guy with a few thousand. They don't waste their time on guys with a little money. Haven't you noticed that?


What incriminating info have I posted about you?

All I've implied is that you might not meet the minimum income threshold if they set one. I believe one has already been set for an American citizen attempting to bring in a foreign spouse or fiance and you might not meet that one either cus your income is very low from a US perspective.

Are you sure you're not the one losing it? You yourself have posted many times on this forum what your income and stated the figures. Yet I've not even said anything specific, just implied that your income is very low. Again, what have I said incriminating or even new?

I noticed you're talking a bit erratically on chat as well these past couple days. Are you ok over there?


Rock, we were talking about the law blocking men from going abroad, not about bringing in foreign brides. So you seemed to be referring to that. There are other ways of bringing in foreign brides such as using a co-signor.

I only posted a ballpark figure about my income. Regardless of income, Ive saved a lot of money though, since im a good saver. Enough to be free.

Im not erratic. I just feel powerless and unaccepted in this weird american culture that feels satanic and disconnected. I dont like not feeling accepted and not part of society. How would you like it?
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Re: If Hillary Clinton wins, it's over for America

Postby Winston » Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:36 pm

Hillary isnt just ugly. She looks ev and twisted as well, with no soul or empathy or principles. Thats whats truly scary about her. She also looks like shes devoid of true femininity.
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Re: If Hillary Clinton wins, it's over for America

Postby Winston » Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:26 am

I dont think hillary clinton can be president. She looks weak and tired. No stamina or strength to endure it. Wouldnt it suck to be president? Lol.

What do you think of ted cruz? He looks normal. But i dont like his advertisements where he says he will kill and destroy all of americas enemies overseas. That sounds evil and warmongering. Its not like america is a beacon of justice. Why does he think people in america want to hear that hes going to destroy all of americas enemies and wont apologize for it? If hes right then americans must be sick.

Havent americans gotten wiser with youtube and all the conspiracy videos on there and free flow of information? How can they still be dumb and degenerate?
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Re: If Hillary Clinton wins, it's over for America

Postby josephty1 » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:13 am

Winston wrote:Havent americans gotten wiser with youtube and all the conspiracy videos on there and free flow of information? How can they still be dumb and degenerate?


Thats the point of american schooling dumbing people down. Because of the Internet. Also chemtrails and other stuff for the older folks.
Public school, most people between 12-35, and often your parents are brainwashed and trying to brainwash you.

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Re: If Hillary Clinton wins, it's over for America

Postby fschmidt » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:35 am

If Hillary Clinton wins, it's over for America. But if Trump wins, it's over for the world since he will likely start WW3. So if I had to choose, I would choose Hillary. But I don't have to choose, so I won't bother voting.
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