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What exactly are some of your plans to get a good woman
Posted: June 20th, 2014, 2:26 am
by Zionosis
Well I just want to know what you guys are actively doing to get a good foreign woman and to stay away from western feminists.
I myself over the past 2 years have casually learned Japanese and can already speak it but most likely at the level of a 5 year old.
In about another year or two I think I will be versed enough to take a trip to Japan and try to meet a woman.
I have found that learning Japanese is easy and it's a much easier language than my first language of English.
So what are you guys specifically doing to get a decent woman.
I always thought that even though I don't believe in the whole Jesus religion thing that I could go to church and the quality of women and morals would be far better there and no one would ever have to know that I wasn't a true believer. But I never got around to that, Probably because I had doubts that the women there really are any better.
Posted: June 20th, 2014, 2:36 am
by Zionosis
I haven't found English to be a very useful language when trying to get a good woman. After all American women are horrible and here in Australia they are basically as bad. We get all of your feminist media, our television shows and movies are 90% of the time American.
Women in the UK don't seem any better from what I have seen. All that is left is New Zealand which don't seem any better than Australian women and Canada would be the last English speaking country pretty much and the women there are basically just like women from the USA.
So English is useless for meeting good women because the English world is flooded with feminism and PC crap. You will notice even in Russia feminism is nothing like it is in English countries. In Russia they have kept it under control.
Even in countries like Germany and Austria PC crap and Feminism isn't anything like it is in the English Ango-Saxon world.
Posted: June 20th, 2014, 2:36 am
by abcdavid01
For me it's a zen thing. You stop focusing on women and focus on yourself. Then they just sort of gravitate towards you because you've made yourself so awesome. Learning a language can be part of that.
Posted: June 20th, 2014, 2:37 am
by MarcosZeitola
Well here's what I personally did...
I stayed clear from dating websites. I went on chat sites and talked to lots of people around the world, guys and girls around because when you come somewhere it's good to have some acquaintances in the area regardless of romantic feelings.
So I chatted online with girls and if there's a click we would exchange contact details. We'd Skype and get to know one another. I had a select few. A few Filipina's, a very busty hottie from Singapore, some dark skin Indonesian girl.
Eventually there was one girl who got my attention the most. We developed feeling for one another and ended meeting up. This girl was a Filipina and is now my wife. This is how I do it. By bypassing dating sites I think I was able to prevent myself from finding gold diggers. And as I am not wealthy at all and very young, I knew the love was real. You just feel those things.
As for the girls? The Indonesian was the daughter of a wealthy land owner. The Filipina who now is my wife was a student on a prestigious university and her parents both are professionals. The Singaporean girl had a businessman father. None of them "needed" me financially. The need was of a purely emotional and physical nature. Which is what you have to find.
They were also all young, late teens. Which for me is a matter of both personal taste as well as practical, seeing as though I am still very young myself. But this is how I did it and I feel it may be the best and most honest method. Above all? Be daring. Be bold. Don't be afraid to take chances. And make sure you talk plenty for extended periods of time. Before you even meet you can have tackled most important issues already so you know you truly are on one line and know what to expect from one another.
That is my advice to you.
Posted: June 20th, 2014, 2:40 am
by fschmidt
The first step to getting a good woman is to go abroad.
abcdavid01 wrote:For me it's a zen thing. You stop focusing on women and focus on yourself. Then they just sort of gravitate towards you because you've made yourself so awesome.
This only works abroad. In America, the better you become, the more the women hate you. That's my experience.
Posted: June 20th, 2014, 2:50 am
by Zionosis
abcdavid01 wrote:For me it's a zen thing. You stop focusing on women and focus on yourself. Then they just sort of gravitate towards you because you've made yourself so awesome. Learning a language can be part of that.
That sounds like game theory that is for beta's trying to act like alphas.
I never needed to act like who I am not and I have dated one girl and she was Asian and she was in fact the Japanese exchange student in our year 8 class.
No white women seems to like me for who I am or even like my looks.
I have been to Chinatown a lot and the women there seem really nice also.
Asian women don't seem to mind if you show them you like them and think about them. White women seem to think you are a loser if you do that and you must pretend you don't really care and somehow that makes them like you more. Very unnatural.
And about your thing about just specifically not thinking about women. That doesn't work. Women are not initiators. You have to show interest and initiate with them. This even goes for Asian women. You can't just talk to them bored and look disinterested because they will think you aren't interested.
I find it's easier to initiate and talk to Asian women because they are nice and I can read them. Most white women look like pissed off feminists who will go off at you if you talk to them.
Basically what I am saying is that with Asian women there don't seem to be mind games. With white women you must act deliberately how you don't feel at times and then how you really feel at other times. It's retarded. I still to this day don't give a damn about game theory. It only really applies to western women anyway.
Natural game theory thinking occurs less and less in more intelligent societies. Being introspective and even shy is more common the smarter the people get. Asian men are more shy and introverted on average than white men. That's why shy white men don't bother Asian women because in their culture it's rather normal.
In western culture you are a loser.
Posted: June 20th, 2014, 2:58 am
by jamesbond
Zionosis wrote:Most white women look like pissed off feminists who will go off at you if you talk to them.
Exactly, I have noticed the same thing. White women in America are by far the most unfriendly and stuck up women in the USA.
Most women who are feminists are white, there are very few feminists who are Asian, Hispanic or black.
Even though I am white, I now avoid white women like the plague. I get smiles and flirting behavior from black, Hispanic and Asian women. White women act like I don't exist, which is fine with me, since I act like they don't exist either!
Posted: June 20th, 2014, 3:04 am
by Zionosis
jamesbond wrote:Zionosis wrote:Most white women look like pissed off feminists who will go off at you if you talk to them.
Exactly, I have noticed the same thing. White women in America are by far the most unfriendly and stuck up women in the USA.
Most women who are feminists are white, there are very few feminists who are Asian, Hispanic or black.
Even though I am white, I now avoid white women like the plague. I get smiles and flirting behavior from black, Hispanic and Asian women. White women act like I don't exist, which is fine with me, since I act like they don't exist either!
Jesus that's exactly it for me. White women also act like I don't exist and in the past when I gave one the look they just gave me a sour look like I am a sicko. Most of them of course just ignored me.
Asian women acted differently and seemed to understand my slightly shy ways. Probably because they are smarter people and they are shy themselves a lot.
Here is me BTW. Before any of you imagine me as some ugly weirdo.
http://imgp.oasiscdn.com/31795333/7e882 ... c16f_o.jpg
Posted: June 20th, 2014, 3:34 am
by jamesbond
Zionosis wrote:Jesus that's exactly it for me. White women also act like I don't exist and in the past when I gave one the look they just gave me a sour look like I am a sicko. Most of them of course just ignored me.
Asian women acted differently and seemed to understand my slightly shy ways. Probably because they are smarter people and they are shy themselves a lot.
Here is me BTW. Before any of you imagine me as some ugly weirdo.
http://imgp.oasiscdn.com/31795333/7e882 ... c16f_o.jpg
You look like your in good shape, I am as well, I work out at the gym and take care of myself. Of course, this is not good enough for white women in America because I am not outgoing and aggressive.
I have noticed that Asian women do seem more reserved and are a better fit for me as opposed to white women, who seem to only like guys who are loud and aggressive.
White women tend to be the most materialistic women in America. I have found that black, Hispanic and Asian women don't really care much about how much money a man makes or what his "social status" is.
I have found myself completely avoiding white women now. I know a couple of guys who are doing the same thing. More guys in America are starting to avoid white women like the plague!
Posted: June 20th, 2014, 9:15 pm
by abcdavid01
Zionosis wrote:abcdavid01 wrote:For me it's a zen thing. You stop focusing on women and focus on yourself. Then they just sort of gravitate towards you because you've made yourself so awesome. Learning a language can be part of that.
That sounds like game theory that is for beta's trying to act like alphas.
I never needed to act like who I am not and I have dated one girl and she was Asian and she was in fact the Japanese exchange student in our year 8 class.
No white women seems to like me for who I am or even like my looks.
I have been to Chinatown a lot and the women there seem really nice also.
Asian women don't seem to mind if you show them you like them and think about them. White women seem to think you are a loser if you do that and you must pretend you don't really care and somehow that makes them like you more. Very unnatural.
And about your thing about just specifically not thinking about women. That doesn't work. Women are not initiators. You have to show interest and initiate with them. This even goes for Asian women. You can't just talk to them bored and look disinterested because they will think you aren't interested.
I find it's easier to initiate and talk to Asian women because they are nice and I can read them. Most white women look like pissed off feminists who will go off at you if you talk to them.
Basically what I am saying is that with Asian women there don't seem to be mind games. With white women you must act deliberately how you don't feel at times and then how you really feel at other times. It's retarded. I still to this day don't give a damn about game theory. It only really applies to western women anyway.
Natural game theory thinking occurs less and less in more intelligent societies. Being introspective and even shy is more common the smarter the people get. Asian men are more shy and introverted on average than white men. That's why shy white men don't bother Asian women because in their culture it's rather normal.
In western culture you are a loser.
Well I didn't mean it like that. I certainly never meant to imply that you should try to be someone you're not. Just the opposite in fact. You should care more about yourself instead of following what any woman thinks. Don't chase, get girls to chase you. Act like yourself no matter what. Now that may seem like bad advice if "yourself" is unattractive or depressed, but it's not as if people want that for themselves anyway. So by saying "act like yourself" I mean your best self or your true self. Someone who doesn't lie to himself and who knows what he wants and gets it. Actually, I'm very direct with women. Its just what I know. There's no subtly. I get very confused about people my age who just hang out or hook up. I'd never do any of that. Too much drama. Better to just be clear about dating and defining relationships. Women may not be initiators, but you'll get more attention if you're not constantly pleasing. What about all the girls idolizing Jay Chou for example? So you work on self-improvement and give off this confident vibe. Girls notice it, give you some shy looks, you approach them and be very direct. Self-improvement is far more effective than improving yourself for the sake of women. Self-improvement leads to getting women as a side effect anyway. A man who improves himself for the sake of women has no higher ideals.
Posted: June 20th, 2014, 9:21 pm
by Jester
abcdavid01 wrote:For me it's a zen thing. You stop focusing on women and focus on yourself. Then they just sort of gravitate towards you because you've made yourself so awesome. Learning a language can be part of that.
+1
Posted: June 20th, 2014, 9:30 pm
by Jester
abcdavid01 wrote:
Zionosis wrote:
abcdavid01 wrote:
For me it's a zen thing. You stop focusing on women and focus on yourself. Then they just sort of gravitate towards you because you've made yourself so awesome. Learning a language can be part of that.
That sounds like game theory that is for beta's trying to act like alphas.
I never needed to act like who I am not and I have dated one girl and she was Asian and she was in fact the Japanese exchange student in our year 8 class.
No white women seems to like me for who I am or even like my looks.
I have been to Chinatown a lot and the women there seem really nice also.
Asian women don't seem to mind if you show them you like them and think about them. White women seem to think you are a loser if you do that and you must pretend you don't really care and somehow that makes them like you more. Very unnatural.
And about your thing about just specifically not thinking about women. That doesn't work. Women are not initiators. You have to show interest and initiate with them. This even goes for Asian women. You can't just talk to them bored and look disinterested because they will think you aren't interested.
I find it's easier to initiate and talk to Asian women because they are nice and I can read them. Most white women look like pissed off feminists who will go off at you if you talk to them.
Basically what I am saying is that with Asian women there don't seem to be mind games. With white women you must act deliberately how you don't feel at times and then how you really feel at other times. It's retarded. I still to this day don't give a damn about game theory. It only really applies to western women anyway.
Natural game theory thinking occurs less and less in more intelligent societies. Being introspective and even shy is more common the smarter the people get. Asian men are more shy and introverted on average than white men. That's why shy white men don't bother Asian women because in their culture it's rather normal.
In western culture you are a loser.
Well I didn't mean it like that. I certainly never meant to imply that you should try to be someone you're not. Just the opposite in fact.
You should care more about yourself instead of following what any woman thinks. Don't chase, get girls to chase you. Act like yourself no matter what. Now that may seem like bad advice if "yourself" is unattractive or depressed, but it's not as if people want that for themselves anyway. So by saying "act like yourself" I mean your best self or your true self. Someone who doesn't lie to himself and who knows what he wants and gets it. Actually, I'm very direct with women. Its just what I know. There's no subtly. I get very confused about people my age who just hang out or hook up. I'd never do any of that. Too much drama. Better to just be clear about dating and defining relationships.
Women may not be initiators, but you'll get more attention if you're not constantly pleasing. What about all the girls idolizing Jay Chou for example?
So you work on self-improvement and give off this confident vibe. Girls notice it, give you some shy looks, you approach them and be very direct.
Self-improvement is far more effective than improving yourself for the sake of women. Self-improvement leads to getting women as a side effect anyway. A man who improves himself for the sake of women has no higher ideals.
+5
Posted: June 20th, 2014, 10:22 pm
by Cornfed
abcdavid01 wrote: Self-improvement is far more effective than improving yourself for the sake of women. Self-improvement leads to getting women as a side effect anyway.
It depends on the context and the outward manifestation of the self improvement. Generally this statement is not true in the West.
Posted: June 20th, 2014, 11:13 pm
by abcdavid01
Cornfed wrote:abcdavid01 wrote: Self-improvement is far more effective than improving yourself for the sake of women. Self-improvement leads to getting women as a side effect anyway.
It depends on the context and the outward manifestation of the self improvement. Generally this statement is not true in the West.
Well I suppose it depends on the type of women desired. Act like scum, get scum women. Lots of Western men want that because they have no morals. They're only lying to themselves by calling what they do self-improvement anyway. Real positive self-improvement might not lead to a ton of women in the West, but when it does, it's usually the ones you want.
I suppose that's why I've had quite a few run ins with foreign girls. You might be right too fschmidt.
Posted: June 20th, 2014, 11:44 pm
by Cornfed
abcdavid01 wrote: Real positive self-improvement might not lead to a ton of women in the West, but when it does, it's usually the ones you want.
Yes, but under many circumstances, that might not happen very often.
