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Why do men think that women have an expiry date?

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Re: Why do men think that women have an expiry date?

Postby Teal Lantern » Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:55 pm

Banano wrote:Sure women become less attractive as they age just like men do BUT I see women in their 30s and 40s having no problem getting dates with men who are younger and better looking then themselves?

On the other hand I see men in 20s who are decent looking and they cant get dates?

Im talking about females in Western countries in particular,

We like it or not womens sexual market value is much higher than mens, i.e all else being equal,F25 yo have more options than M25, F42 have more options than M42 and so on. You get the point. Just try dating sites and you will see what i mean

Are we just deluding ourselves? Are men ultimate losers in this game?

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If ease of racking up "notches" is a win, then yes, the average man can't hold a candle to the average woman.
Like Chris Christie at a track meet against Flo Jo. :D

Past a certain age, the average SINGLE woman doesn't see this as "winning", though.
Sex becomes a loss leader for snagging "commitment", i.e. some idiot becomes a utility/ATM, preferably with a nice retirement fund or life insurance policy.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/won ... t-savings/

They see modern dating as teh evil menz only sniffing around for "free" sex.
http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/dating ... out-there/
The comments are lol-worthy. :lol:

If you were M42, would you legally sign on for long-term, exclusive wallet support of a modern F42 + her bills & baggage, knowing you can easily shave 15+ years off that number, by hopping a plane or crossing the border?

Soon enough, it won't require travel to get a much younger one, but that's a topic for another thread.
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Re: Why do men think that women have an expiry date?

Postby Introvert » Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:34 pm

Because they do. Women cannot have children past a certain age. That is all that the "expiry date" refers to. If all you want is sex, then that does not concern you at all.
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Postby FusionX20 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:18 pm

Tezcatlipoca wrote:No, the average woman after 30 has less options than the average man after 30 imo.


I doubt it, the average women has more options than a man could ever hope to in his entire life. This is in western society of course.
Been at the mercy of western society since childhood.
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Postby Array9 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:34 pm

Tezcatlipoca wrote:No, the average woman after 30 has less options than the average man after 30 imo.


+1

The average man's value increases once he hits 30+, has a stable income and stays relatively fit. Women on the other hand lose value after 30. Their value decreases even further if they have a child outside of marriage.
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Postby Banano » Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:03 pm

Array9 wrote:
Tezcatlipoca wrote:No, the average woman after 30 has less options than the average man after 30 imo.


+1

The average man's value increases once he hits 30+, has a stable income and stays relatively fit. Women on the other hand lose value after 30. Their value decreases even further if they have a child outside of marriage.




I bet that woman in her 40s will be able to get more dates than fit guy in his 30s, both online and offline.



Just look at Winston, Steve Hoca, Ladislav and many others...none of them is getting laid unless they pay for it with cash


Men don't have any value, sexual market value that is ( unless you are one of the desirable guys, top 10-20%)
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Postby Array9 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:41 pm

Banano wrote:
Array9 wrote:
Tezcatlipoca wrote:No, the average woman after 30 has less options than the average man after 30 imo.


+1

The average man's value increases once he hits 30+, has a stable income and stays relatively fit. Women on the other hand lose value after 30. Their value decreases even further if they have a child outside of marriage.




Banano wrote:I bet that woman in her 40s will be able to get more dates than fit guy in his 30s, both online and offline.


You are one of my favorite posters but I will have to disagree with you on this one. A woman in her 40s doesn't have the chips to gamble with at that age. She has to put out or the man will dump her. Go and check the dating sites here in America. They are filled with tons of women in their 40s who can't get a date. Most are out of shape.

Banano wrote: Just look at Winston, Steve Hoca, Ladislav and many others...none of them is getting laid unless they pay for it with cash.


:shock: :lol:

Banano wrote: Men don't have any value, sexual market value that is ( unless you are one of the desirable guys, top 10-20%)


Women below the age of 33 call all the shots in the dating game. Men do have options but not nearly as many as a woman in her prime.
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Postby Teal Lantern » Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:29 am

Banano wrote:I bet that woman in her 40s will be able to get more dates than fit guy in his 30s, both online and offline.

This is because some men will screw just about anything.
www.alternet.org/im-fat-40-and-single-a ... laid-crazy


Banano wrote:Just look at Winston, Steve Hoca, Ladislav and many others...none of them is getting laid unless they pay for it with cash

Men don't have any value, sexual market value that is ( unless you are one of the desirable guys, top 10-20%)

Looking at it from another angle, these women can't get the cash unless they "pay for it" with sex. :wink:

Getting sex from a man is easy, getting long-term investment, not so much.
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Postby globe-trotter » Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:05 am

OutWest wrote:
jamesbond wrote:
Jeremy wrote:Hell, a f55 has more options than a m25.

Men like to think women get their comeuppance eventually.

In reality, even your own mother could find an attractive young partner more easily than you could.


This is sad but true in English speaking countries. I occasionally will see a woman in her 40's dating a guy who looks like he is in his 20's.

I rarely see men in their 40's dating women in their 20's here in America.


I don't know where you fellows live, but when I was in the USA in my 40s I had attractive
regular girlfriends in their 20s, stunningly pretty girls including a Ford model from San Francisco.
Pretty girls are not that rare- but personality issues kill it for me, especially the typical self-absorption
of the American personality.

A lot of 20s girl like a man in his 40s who knows the world and can show them a time unimagined by some 20 year old boy- yes, most 20 year old males are boys. With my model GF, one of our first get-aways was to an old hacienda deep in Mexico, a beautiful place and for her especially, another world, beautiful, exotic, worldly, romantic, and a touch "dangerous". A Mexican grandma was fixing her breakfast in bed while riding horses waited in the courtyard.

You really think a 20's something American "guy" can complete with this stuff? LOL

Dating? LOL Most of you seem to have NO CLUE. You have been culturally brainwashed.
I NEVER "dated" my current wife. I courted her...romanced her...and I still do all the time.
I am away from home at the moment, so I called the housekeeper and had her make up a special bath
for my wife, complete with rose petals, wine and her favorite music.

If you leave the American societal/dating model behind, your life will get a lot more interesting.
Most American men are stuck in the mode that generates the very things they say they detest.
They are active participants in their own misery.


Sure, if a man in his 40's has the means to pay for a gf in her 20's (with exotic getaways, dinners, etc.), she may tag along with him. But that relationship is predicated on money, not on attraction and love. It's just a fancy and socially acceptable P4P relationship.
To test my hypothesis, just take away the $$$-- and thus the fancy perks-- and watch the young woman bolt right out of the old guy's life.
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Re: Why do men think that women have an expiry date?

Postby Adama » Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:00 pm

I think you can only generalize up to a point on this one.

Most women over age 40 simply aren't that attractive. There are many that are attractive, but they are few compared to the many who are unattractive.
Also here is the bias, because you notice those pretty, older women who are dating younger guys more. It catches your eye. So you may think there are more of those couples than there actually are. You can't use roach theory on this one.

I think it is more of an individual thing. Some men increase in attractiveness as they get into their 40s. Many are just then hitting their stride. I have known women in their mid 20s who were literally chasing after older men in their late 30s and early 40s. I don't think age is as great a barrier to younger women as you've been led to believe. I wouldnt think age for a man would be a terrible thing (and I am only guessing at the lower limit)until around age 50 or so. But I have seen young girls go crazy about and talk about how hot a particular man in his 50s was.

Then there's the knowledge of how to handle the opposite sex. For most women, they have all the knowledge of how to manipulate the opposite sex by the time they are 16 years old. But for a man, you may never arrive to a suitable level of understanding of female psychology. In other words, women are natural pick up artists. Men may or may not know what to do in a given situation, and unfortunately (or fortunately) for men, if you do not drive the ship, then the ship will not move. If you as the man can not direct the course from start to finish, the woman will not step up to help you. Eventually she'll get bored and leave. That is the real difference. As the man, you need to set the focus, tempo, and direction. The woman will not do any of that. But without any of those, a connection can not take place. So you need to know what to do, or be able to wing it. Women don't have that worry. She just needs to find a man who is capable of opening and closing, instead of those who are given opportunities but are ignorant of what to do with them.

There is also a disadvantage for women. They can not truly approach in Anglo societies. So they have to wait for men to get up to pursue them. They have to sit there and wait. They can not get up to go after what they want the same way a man can go after what he wants. She can be as attracted to a particular man as he wants, but until he decides that he wants to go after her, she has no choice in the matter except to try to get him to do it and hope that he gets it and is willing. But she can not do it herself. And usually when women are getting hit on, it isnt by 100 different men every week. They get hit on mostly by their coworkers, who are the same people everyday, not random men.
Look for women who automatically want to please you because it pleases them. Any woman who seeks to please her man is a treasure. Even better if you don't have to ask but rather suggest.
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Postby droid » Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:09 pm

Teal Lantern wrote:This is because some men will screw just about anything.
http://www.alternet.org/im-fat-40-and-single-and-ive-been-getting-laid-crazy



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2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
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Re: Why do men think that women have an expiry date?

Postby droid » Fri Jul 31, 2015 6:26 pm

TealLantern wrote:This is because some men will screw just about anything.
http://www.alternet.org/im-fat-40-and-single-and-ive-been-getting-laid-crazy


Blame the E.Irrizarris of the world
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Re: Why do men think that women have an expiry date?

Postby travelsouth » Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:00 pm

I see some good looking middle aged women in the USA. I see plenty overseas. The problem with these Kentucky Fried Gringas is the lifestyle. Being pregnant is not an excuse for being a pig. Most of these women don't live healthy (just like many men dont), but once they get pregnant and their metabolism slows as the age and they become nasty looking fast. It's just a combination of a lack of exercise, poor diet, etc that makes the milk spoil so to speak.

Granted if a young lady selects her mate well and stays with him and she lives a healthy lifestyle she will be just fine. It's all about choices. If you live in the Midwest and you want to pull out bar trash, then that's your choice. If you want to date modelos from Colombia, that's your choice as well. Make them and live with them.
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