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Well I see some on here like the Filipino and Thai women.
Is it normal that I find them not that attractive.
Negrito is what they are mostly composed of which is like a small dark Asian person (though genetically more distant from African blacks than any other people).
Most of them to me seem not that good looking, Some seem to have some east Asian mix and look alright or other have white mix and look alright but for the most part they don't look that great.
They are like the typical ones that have quite a lot of Negrito.
Then you have the better looking (usually paler) ones that have obvious east Asian mixture.
But as far as the darker Negrito looking ones, Is that what you guys are into on here that say the Philippines is awesome.
I see too many usually ugly white men with some dark unattractive Filipino woman and it's a joke among most people now.
The white men are usually old or ugly that are with them.
The amount of old men I see in even here in Australia with these Filipino type women is surprising.
i also think most foreigners have zero taste but then after my experience there im realizing that most of the hot women are scammers or hoes even for similiar ages thats why you dont see to many hot filipinas with foreigners the guy usually gets sick of them and dumps them. Taco has mentioned this before. so most of the guys are willing to settle on the looks a bit. But also another reason is the guys are often much older or ugly themselves so they are lucky to even get an average girl when you think about it. The only hot girls ive seen go for much older foreigners or ugly foreigners (like me) are blatant hoes who want a big spender or milfs. Usually a hot girl wont go for a large gap she has dignity if she does there is usually somethign to the story. When i say hot im talking over a 6.5. Most guys on this forum their women are a 6.5 and below so they have a bit of a chance of success. They are just old and think their wives are hot when if you look they are just cute or slightly above average.
Not really, The Filipino women are just not that attractive on average. Also sorry but these 3/10 women like in the first image running off and trying to marry white men and get out of the Philippines isn't because they love the old or ugly white men.
These old white men just want a young woman and probably don't care if she only looks like 3/10 because it's still better than sex with an old woman. lol.
Seems in the Philippines or Thailand the attractive women are a minority and usually are women that have a lot of east Asian mixture that washes out their Negrito and are paler than the rest of the women.
Sort of like this Thai woman here(who has a lot of east Asian mixture).
I agree with you that most filipinas are not pretty. I used to think american filipinas are hot and they are but when you go to phil its a bit harder to find attractive ones. many have bad skin and indigenous features.
I seriously doubt that they were Negritos.
I mean, I'm a Southeast Asian myself with clear Khmer, Bugis and Malay heritage and I looked ugly and dark-skinned once when I was eating poorly and took little care of myself.
Then older in life as I regularly work out, exfoliate my skin, staying more indoors, eat properly, etc...I end up looking more like the girl you posted. Very East-asian'ish with fair skin. Got hit on even plenty back in those days when I use a chat service with my photo put on.
Get this - a lot of babies here tend to be born with very fair white skin and it was from their lifestyle later in life that determines whether the fairness would stay with them.
What you mentioned in your first post were poor girls. Poor, lowly educated, with little options but to try to snag some westerner or work in shady entertainment pubs many beautiful girls with more options would never consider doing (unless we are talking about special high class escort business).
Go to the Kampungs/villages and you'll see more negrito-looking girls like that. Eat poor diet with very little protein and staying out in the sun all the time. Go to KL and prepare to drool at the ladies. Too bad they don't get anywhere close to you because of the Islam religion and the overwhelming sense of paranoia surrounding them these days. Malaysia is really like a second Taiwan nowadays.
Also on another note, I find it mightily amusing that Malaysians always describe the Thai girls they meet to be the fair-skinned type while Westerners always describe the girls they meet to be of the darker skinned type. Somehow Westerners always have a penchant for meeting the bottom-tier females in Thailand.
Wow, Sorry it's a biological fact that they are have a very large amount of Negrito in them. Also that Thai woman I posted is obviously a majority east Asian mix and doesn't have as much Negrito as most of the other women in Thailand.
Also it's not just the skin color, It's the bone/face shape and everything. For instance here are some Japanese women with a fake tan trying to look dark which some weird little groups in Japan do.
East Asians simply are different genetically than Negrito's like the south east Asian Filipino and Thai women.
Japanese or Korean women can try to tan themselves but they will never look like the Negrito women who are shorter and have different faces.
As far as you doubting that the Thai, Filipino, Indonesians are genetically mainly Negrito. Well it's a biological and historical fact, Sorry. Genetic tests also show that the east Asians like Koreans and Japanese and north Han Chinese have no Negrito admixture in them.
Negrito's are part of the Australoid race which includes the Australian Aboriginal.
Also sorry but if you have melanin like Negrito or even Thai, Staying out of the sun does not make you paler. Staying out of the sun only makes you paler if you are born with pale pigment like Mongoloids (Japanese, Korean etc) or Caucasians also that if they stay out of the sun stay pale. If they go in the sun they tan but if they stay out of the sun long enough they turn pale again.
You can't be born dark and turn pale unless you are one of those Thai people that use skin lightening cream. lol
The Thai have far less Negrito than the Filipino's though. This is why Thai women look far better.
None of those women are Negritos. They are of Austronesian decent with maybe some Spanish mix. And the one in the yellow looks like a ladyboy. A true negrito is quite small with African features, especially the greasy, curly afro hair. Some of the girls in the first picture aren't terrible looking though none are beauty queens. The ones you picked as attractive are models. We can pick Kate Upton and say that that is what is sexy in America. Well yea but what are the chances of finding a girl like that, especially for a defeated average looking foreigner. Slim to none. Sure if you live in the country, are somewhat good looking and young, and are not a reservist you can find some girls like those, maybe but a lot of effort needs to be put into it.
If you don't desire those type of girls go somewhere where you find the women more attractive. Obviously some countries aren't for everyone.
But to the OP, what are you bringing to the table? Are you young, nice looking, tall, great build, awesome job, and have good relationship/social skills? Do you have the time and reserve to put into finding those types of girls? Or are you another guy who watches too much porn, day dreams of banging asian models, and has quite a lot of built of aggression for hot western women you always failed to get? I don't know you or your story so I'm simply stating random types of people. But there are too many 4's on this forum expecting 10's.
The way I see it is if they are happy with it then they are happy. No one is saying that you have to settle for those types of girls.
The thing is is there a way for a guy to become more appreciative for ugly women? Like is there some kind of experience or way for a guy to start overlooking the looks part as much? I just have a hard time doing it. my current gf is a 6 and really hard for me to get turned on to her. Wheras if she was above a 6.5 like my barhoe or other girls id be super turned on. its likea switch. But it seems like these old guys are just happy with even the ladyboy looking women in yellow.
Its not even about the sex anymore cause if it was i would have gone with my barhoe or other hoes but it seems more like a friendship where we just hang out (but fight lol) and she cares for me with minimal romance and jealousy. Its kind of strange.
The OP reminds me of the old joke where the patient goes into the doctors office and says, "hey doc, it hurts when I do this. The doc replies ok, then don't do that." If you don't find Filipino or Thai ladies attractive, go somewhere else! Everybody has different levels of taste. Guys from all over the world will still continue to seek Filipinas (and a lesser degree Thais) because they are obtainable. Your average Joe still stands a fighting chance to date or marry "up" in the looks department and these days that is becoming more and more difficult to find.
If you don't like Philippines or Thailand then dating in Central/Northern Asia. But don't come back bellyaching to the forum when you find girls from these countries will probably be far pickier/materialistic.
What is your evidence for saying these groups are mostly Negrito? In Indonesia, the bulk of the population lives in the east. The Australian Aborigine people are way off on the island of Papua, though you see more Melanesian looking people as you go east.
I've read the original inhabitants of what is now the Philippines were Negritos, but then Malay people-groups moved in and settled. It looks to me like a lot of them may have Chinese or other east Asian blood, because some of them have a little more of that look than Indonesians. Maybe the difference in looks is more Negrito blood in Indonesia.
If a man wants to marry a Negrito or an African for that matter, what does it matter? I'm not attracted to most African women of the sub-Saharan type, but every once in a while I'll see one I find attractive. And there are some pretty Ethiopians. I've also seen some pretty Egyptians who look 'middle eastern' though Egypt is technically African, too. We are talking about marrying foreigners and for most of us, that means marrying outside our race. Your post makes it sound like it's taboo to marry a Negrito. If that's the case, why isn't it wrong for a Caucasian to marry a Han Chinese?
I haven't been to the Philippines. But they say people tend to marry at about the same attractiveness level. A old white man's age detracts from his attractiveness. A young stocky homely Filippina's stockiness and homeliness detracts from her attractiveness. So it makes sense.
I'm trying to think of the expat couples in Indonesia. Occasionally, you'll see an old expat man with a young woman, but I haven't noticed a lot of geezers with young women there. Most men there seem to be younger. There are middle aged men. I know of a middle age man who had a wife back at home and married a girl in Indonesia. She was a really loose woman who'd also slept with his co-worker and created a love triangle for a while before he took her (probably in violation of his oath to the government) as his wife in an Islamic ceremony.
I knew a young English teacher who married a stocky rather plain girl who bossed him around, too. He was a 'nice guy.' But there are plenty of white guys in the US who marry stocky, plain women. He probably could have gotten a much better looking girl, but he must have fallen in love with this one. Some men don't make looks a high priority. I also think some men don't realize that their sex rank is higher over there and that they can be selective.
I'm also thinking of a couple that was in their late 30s or early 40s or so when I met them. He was white. His wife was pretty, but in her wedding photo, she was really a knock-out when she was young. This other man in is 30's was married to an absolutely gorgeous woman. My wife is gorgeous, too.
As far as looks go, really, really pretty women seem to be about a quarter as common among young women in Indonesia as they are in the US. I'm comparing my university experience to experience with young adults in Indonesia back when I was one. But I was probably five or eight times more desirable as a marriage partner.
And Indonesian women are likely to look at men as potential marriage partners. In the US, men and women look at dating as a way to have fun. Maybe the women want someone to buy them dinner. There are people who date without marriage as a real objective. If you date a nice, decent girl in Indonesia whose in her 20s, it's not like that. I'd imagine Filippinas may be the same way.
That's a solid question to ask and my answer is gonna sound like a Dr. Phil rant...
It's not all the same for everyone. I look at many of my friends girlfriends and sometimes find myself asking the same thing, "how could they sleep with that!" It's a shallow way of looking at it but I'm not gonna deny it doesn't occur. But then in reality when you are connected to someone emotionally and mentally it becomes easier to accept the less than perfect physical attributes. I can attest to that first hand. I'm not gonna sleep with a fatty or a troll, but a girl who is cute, with a decent frame is definitely acceptable. The thing that gets me is a girl that shows genuine interest in me both physically and mentally. That is one reason I've never been big on strip clubs or P4P. It is fake and doesn't stimulate me at all.
We are programmed genetically to be attracted to the basic healthy, non-deformed human body for breeding purposes and to insure offspring survival. Everything else is generally based off of societal stimuli. In other words society controls how you view attractiveness. Just look at various historical examples as well as present day cultures.
I feel for the most part that individuals who only see physical beauty are missing something that stimulates them mentally. I'm not saying a pterodactyl with a heart of gold is gonna do it for you but perhaps the average looking girl could win you with personal compatibility, similar interest and personality traits.
An example for this occurred the other night. I was chatting with a hispanic girl at a party that I had previously thought was rather average looking. I had a good conversation with her and her body language plus general interest in me made me a lot more attracted to her. She wasn't cold or bitchy and had a sweet, innocent tone to her. I would have definitely given her a chance when previously I wouldn't of without speaking to her. I'll take the cute girl with a good personality over the bitchy, model look any day of the week.
The second one from the right on the top is cute, but kind of dark and has the features you don't like. The one to the right of her looks okay, too. The second from the right on the bottom looks okay. It's all a matter of perspective. A lot of guys don't mind a little dark skin if she's pretty. A lot of guys don't insist on pretty either.
I had a friend who told me back when I was dating my wife that men liked wives like their mothers. He had a stout, sassy employee and he thought his European coworker liked her. His coworker was making negative comments to her about her looks. But he thought he could sense some attraction. He was good at picking this stuff up, too. He seemed to catch that his maid liked me, and I think he was on to something.
Anyway, his theory was this guy probably had a stout mother with a bit of attitude like his employee. He said a large percentage of guys marry fat women. They may pretend they like the magazine model type and maybe they are attracted to that, too. But when they marry, they marry someone fat like their momma.
Then I thought about it. My mother was thin and pretty when I was younger. She stayed home and took care of us, taking care of the home. I can't remember her ever lying to me. Was I marrying an Asian version of my mom? Eeeewwww. But there is nothing wrong marrying a pretty thin woman with good character. So that's a good thing.
Maybe the guys who marry chunkly plain looking women had chunky plain looking mothers. Femininity and sweetness attracts some guys even if a woman doesn't look all that attractive.
Personally, I think you shouldn't be with someone you aren't attracted to. If you were one of these old guys who is okay with a plain looking girl in yellow because you are attracted to her, then that's fine. If personality attracts you, fine. But if you are going to pick a girl out, spent time with her, and marry her, there should be something about her that is attractive to you, IMO, for her sake, too.
I'm in my early 40's and my wife is in her late 30's and hasn't hit the big 4-0 yet. In spite of having several children, she's still reasonably thin. She doesn't look quite like she did in her 20's before the kids, but still looks good. Her face is still beautiful.
But I've thought about it. Even though some Asian women keep their looks a long time, most of us eventually start looking old. I haven't seen any old women who look attractive without surgery, and then they usually look a little strange, too from the surgery, and not attractive compared to younger women.
My grandmother told me when I was young to be careful about marrying an Asian women. She said they are like American Indians. They look pretty when they are young, but she'd never seen a pretty old Asian women. Well, I think it takes Asian women a lot longer than most whites to start looking like that. But I thought, but didn't say to my grandmother, that it didn't matter. I'd never seen an old white woman I was attracted to, either. But she was an old white woman, so I didn't say it.
Eventually, those of us who marry knock-outs are married to old women. Skin sags. The face and neck may get kind of big, especially if the woman puts on a few pounds. (My wife keeps the weight off off with diareah tea and skipping meals). We eventually deteriorate, too.
I remember in my 20's seeing an older couple, the woman with her arms hanging down, and thinking how can that man have sex with his wife? I'd read old people have sex. That's a good thing because I'd be old, too some day. The down side is having to have sex with an old woman.
But it's like the frog in boiling water. Drop a frog in boiling water, and it will try to avoid it. Put a frog in luke warm water on the stove and slowly boil it, and it will stay until it dies. (So they say. I've never tried it.) We married men sleep with our wives and eventually, we wake up one day after having had sex with a flabby, maybe fat, wrinkly woman. It hasn't happened to me yet, but if we both live long enough in this life and are healthy, that will be us some day.
Now I can understand a man whose wife flabbed or wrinkled up over time, and then died. He's used to sleeping with a saggy, wrinkly, maybe flabby white woman who was once hot.
He goes to the Philippines and a young, slightly chunky, rather plain woman is interested in him. He's used to wrinkly, old, not hot any more. The young woman has young skin, the energy of youth. She's sweet and compliant, not bossy like his late wife.
What I don't get is the men who didn't marry or having long-term live-in girlfriends being okay with dating a 3 or 4 in the Philippines. They didn't ease into sleeping with an older woman over the years. Maybe it's just a matter of their standards for attractiveness going down over time.
It could also be that as we age and interact with women, looks take a back seat to positive personality traits. If a man marries a beautiful American feminist slut with a bit of attitude and a bit of crazy, a really sweet, submissive, feminine (as opposed to feminist) faithful girl may seem super attractive to him after the traumatic experience with the feminist.
I find their skin tones quite attractive actually. They are very smooth and uniform. Some of the sexiest girls in the world IMO have tan skin, especially Latinas. Not all pale girls look like the models above either. Many look terrible without makeup on. The reason I don't find some of the girls that attractive above is due to the facial features such as their wide flat noses. Honestly the worst looking one up their has the lightest skin color.