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I'm a young guy that scores from 75-90% in I (Introversion) on the Myer-Briggs Test. My personality type is either ISFP (but very close to INFP) or INFP depending on the website that I take the test from.
As someone who is quite reserved and simply cannot function as myself in the majority of social situations I have very little to no tolerance for party animals and social butterflies / socialites. These people are most likely superficial, afraid of losing face, conformist at the core, and have little or no capacity for deep conversations due to their lack of inquisitiveness that comes from inner depth.
Unfortunately, the Anglo party culture has poisoned much of the world and extroversion is seen as "the norm" and what's desirable. Social misfits who are often the true thinkers are quickly and commonly labeled as "troubled", "creepy" or just strange in general. I've heard too much of all this crap and I no longer feel attacked by it. I'm happy being who I am and I would not exchange my soul with someone who fits "the norm" no matter what I'd gain.
Although sometimes I feel that it would be good to have a partner who can compliment me in some ways, at the end of the day I still believe that reserved and less social females are the ones that make better partners. Unlike many guys on this forum who only want to have fun and fill their egos (I'm being blunt here), I am more oriented towards the long term and seek stability that I think is hardly possible with very extroverted, outgoing females if at all. I could be wrong but this is what I'm sticking with for now.
As an introvert myself, I draw energy from the inside or from a few people who understand me and whom I trust. Extroverts deal with people on a much more regular basis (both genuine and superficial), making them more conformist and desiring to seek the approval of the majority whether they realize it or not. Having said this I simply need a lot of time by myself or just with one (maximum of two) other person and I get very unsettled if I'm bothered / in other people's business all the time.
From personal experience people who are more introverted tend to be more genuine and have a lot more to offer beyond the superficial level. Extroverts, on the other hand, tend to be of average or below average intellect. I don't mean offense as I know there are exceptions to most things. These are simply my personal observations.
Since America / the Anglosphere is extremely extroverted, it's more often than not simply unacceptable to not be outgoing and social most of the time. Perhaps this is a bit less for males as we often see geeks and nerds in the media, but for females it is a total stigma. In the Anglosphere it is the norm to often engage in small talk and gossip especially among women. If you feel awkward and prefer deeper conversations you will often be isolated. As a male, the chances of finding a deep, intelligent, and introverted partner in the Anglosphere are simply non-existent.
Now the introversion I am talking about is certainly not referring to the inability to communicate. In fact, it is quite the opposite. Introverts communicate at a different wavelength, at a level that the extroverted majority does not understand.
The one big problem with a lot of introverted girls is the problem a lot of introverted guys have. They're spineless. They're unable to say no or speak plainly about what they want or don't want and are passive aggressive as hell. Then you have to deal with them saying "yeah, I said you could eat ____, but I actually wanted it." And then holding giant resentments over not saying how they feel or what they want. So if you meet an introverted girl who is assertive enough without being basically totally crass like the average Western girl, then she is a gem. But most introverted girls imo, you just get problems the opposite end of the coin, at least speaking of Western introverted girls. Also there could even be a higher likelihood the introverted girl has actually slept with more guys than the comparable extroverted girl, as since they can be so weak willed, they'll easily bend to some guy's "game" and/or look for validation, all the PUA manuals ever basically say this, that introverted girls are prey or whatever. There's also lastly the problem that in USA, introverted people in general can be fairly emotionally wrecked because of the dysfunctionality of American society affects them a lot more.
ISTP personality type here, btw.
I agree. I am an introvert myself. I can do the whole extroverted thing, but it drains my energy instead of replenishing it. Then again, I am probably an introvert because long ago I realized how stupid and shallow most social interaction is. (Not that it is always a bad thing.) I want someone like me in a girlfriend/wife.
And completely concur: the U.S. is "extrovert only." Either be extroverted or there is no second option. It's awful. Fortunately, I enjoy solitude (not loneliness) and that is what I am dedicating myself to while in the U.S. for a time.
I can do both but excess extroversion is boring, in the long run.
Part of the reason for that is that many ppl are mundane and uninteresting. If everyone was interesting, had great ideas, and was a type of eclectic renaissance man, sure, I'd just be an extrovert because I'd be bouncing ideas around, all day long.
What extroversion in the US means is being a conformist. We don't support the culture of independent thinkers and collaborative efforts, outside of group think.
16 years ago, the Best Picture of 1999, "American Beauty", telegraphed the message of Happier Abroad to the world.
Beware of long term engagements with AWs, you may find yourself in a coffin.
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BTW, despite settling down with an AW, myself, the warning is still in effect.
Pardon me Bao. I see you've been a member for a while, and I recall seeing your posts before. But I don't recall if you've ever been in the USA or the Anglosphere before.
Maybe you're American, or an Anglosphere-raised, so then you do know what you're talking about.
But, as a guy who looks Chinese, who lives in China currently, it would help if we understood HOW THE f**k toxic Anglo culture had ANYTHING to do with current PRC culture where YOU CURRENTLY LIVE, when the PRC censors Google, censors WikiPedia, blocks YouTube, blocks FaceBook, and owns or openly controls all the media.
Know what I'm sayin'?
If ***I*** want to kick AngloScum around, well that would be my business. How is it yours?
I'd prefer a more extroverted girl for various reasons. One of which is I want a fun and sweet girl that always communicates with me.
This. I would rather have a more assertive woman rather than someone who is indecisive and doesn't know what the f**k she wants. I want someone who is like myself but at the same time quite unlike myself with qualities that I admire but lack.
I actually knew a girl like that in high school. Keep in mind she was the typical Chinese-American girl (since Cantonese-Americans are as common as dog shit) but she had a prudish, introverted, FOB-like facade. Everybody knew she was the school whore sleeping with different men and having several boyfriends. And then she wonders why she's ruined for marriage? Stupid dumb c**t. She even wanted to hook up with me even as I was seeing someone in college.
If memory serves, he lives in Beijing where the women are more like anglas. Chinese people get through those blocks all the time. If some bitch wants to get her social media crack from facebook, it's easy to do. And since when does it matter where someone is from? If anglo countries suck, why does it matter who points it out?
Well said Bao3niang, a lot of guys on this forum will agree with you that the Anglosphere is a place where extroverts rule and introverts are not welcomed. Winston has said the same thing about living in the US.
Women in English speaking countries LOVE guys who are extroverts and generally hate guys who are introverts. They see introverts as losers, creeps and beta males. The fact is, studies show that the more introverted a person is, the higher their IQ is. The more extroverted a person is, generally the lower their IQ is.
I too prefer a girl who is more introverted like myself. Girls that are extroverts tend to be party animals, loud and obnoxious and are not good for long term relationships. Studies show that women who are extroverts, tend to cheat more on their husbands and boyfriends than girls who are introverts.
"When I think about the idea of getting involved with an American woman, I don't know if I should laugh .............. or vomit!"
"Trying to meet women in America is like trying to decipher Egyptian hieroglyphics."
I guess that opposites attract, because I'm also an introvert but I've always enjoyed the company of extroverted women more than introverted women. Introverted women are terrible conversationalists, are very hesitant about giving physical affection, they hold back when they do give physical affection (e.g. no tongue while kissing, can't touch breasts, etc.) don't smile or laugh much, and have no sense of adventure.
Of course, the disadvantage with extroverted girls is that you wonder how many guys they've been with, and they usually have a lot of asshole friends.
Yeah I DID go all red-state on his Yellow ass didn't I?
Seriously your point about evading the controls is well-made.
BUT... I get tired of hearing people use scapegoats. An example: someone who lives in New York or LA, who NEVER ENCOUNTERS an evangelical Christian, will yammer about how all wars are started over religion, and "Fundamentalists" really chap his hide.
Or a red-state White will spout off about "Al Qaeda" or "Isis" or "Moslems", when NONE of the problems, that affect ANYONE he or she knows, are created by Moslems.
Or liberal Whites or Jews or Blacks will mention "The Klan" as a threat, when there havent been any violent "Klan" types anywhere in fifty years.
My point is, per the old Jewish saying that Jesus once quoted, "Physician heal thyself". Here's the world's LARGEST nation, the world's STRONGEST economy, a NUCLEAR power, arguably the world's HIGHEST IQ people, and they are STILL SO HELPLESS that they have to point the finger at the Anglos for society's ills?
I mean at what point, am as a man, finally responsible for my own life? When I go abroad? When my debts are paid? When I have my own sovereign independent nation? When I have TRILLIONS IN THE BANK? At what point do I need to stop whining and blaming others?
I am the same Bao3niang, in that I am an introvert. I always wanted an introverted girlfriend as well, although over recent years, there has been a few extroverted girls I've liked because they seemed so friendly. I still would say I am more drawn to the introverted, and my current girlfriend is more quiet like me as well. However it's not quite as perfect as I thought it once would be. She can be moody and argumentative, and like someone else mentioned, a bit prudish in some ways.
So I guess it depends on the individual as well. I definitely don't like the loud-mouthed brash type of girls, in which there are a lot of here in the UK. As an introverted guy here there's not much hope of finding a girl here, seems like you need to be the outgoing type to impress them and get to know them. I also think most extroverted girls probably wouldn't like an introvert, and might not understand someone who wants time alone, and doesn't want to socialise.
I'm not sure if there are any countries where my personality would be more suited. I've always felt like a socially awkward misfit...so much that I have made a comic strip about it :
Politically incorrect comics at unpccomix.tumblr.com
Nice cartoon strip, congrats.
Comedy is therapy.
Re introverts scoring, check out Elon Musk's gf. She thought he was hopelessly shy.
Check out the Captain and Tenille, the old music duo.
Check out the BBC series "Death In Paradise".
Check out Simon Cowell.
Some women are intrigued by a guy who doesnt say MUCH, but says something pithy when he DOES talk.
I am convinced there is such a thing as "introvert game".
PS On BBC's "Top Gear" yeah tha star is a motormouth. But there's that guy who never talks or even shows his face, "The Stig". Total introvert. Think HE could get laid? Duh.
I've found most Asian women, particularly Japanese, to be introverted and reserved and quite stoic about their feelings. I find it hard to "read" them. But I've also found the reserved, introverted type female to be more responsible-minded and take their duties in a relationship more seriously. In that respect make a better partner if you're looking for harmony and stability.
Then there's the Latin American women, whom I've found mostly very extroverted and are quite transparent about their emotions, and direct about their likes and dislikes. They'll tell you in no uncertain terms where things stand and how they feel. They are more fun, exciting, high maintenance and make life interesting, if not unlike a soap-opera melodrama.
Personally I like something in between. I think I've found that type among the Japanese/Bolivians and Japanese/Brazilians hybrids I've encountered.
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