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Postby Tsar » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:26 pm

OutWest wrote:I wonder what part of the USA Tsar lives in? The US economy is growing, though slowly, while it seems most of Western Europe enjoys near zero growth. One of the factors in the US stock market buoyancy seems to be European funds looking for growth.

http://www.moneyobserver.com/news/14-08-2014/europe-faces-fresh-recession-gdp-dips

I am in Oregon for a few more weeks yet- all the young people I know here who have good work skills are working, and not at minimum wage.(Which is already a bit higher in Oregon)
I wonder is Tsar is stuck in some crappy part of the USA? It sounds like it.


Here are four articles that highlight how terrible the opportunities are where I am...

http://www.ritaxpayers.com/featured/rho ... n-america/

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/rhod ... ob-market/

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101766880#.

http://patch.com/rhode-island/woonsocke ... tate-in-us

It is consistently rated the overall worst of all the 50 states.
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Postby Cornfed » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:03 pm

OutWest wrote:I am in Oregon for a few more weeks yet- all the young people I know here who have good work skills are working

Generally you get good work skills on the job, and generally if an employer is prepared to train you it is a long term arrangement. Hence your statement kind of boils down to "All the young people I know who are working are working". Is there some way you would meet all the young people who are unemployed and therefore can't afford to get out much?
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Postby eurobrat » Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:07 pm

Tsar wrote:
OutWest wrote:I wonder what part of the USA Tsar lives in? The US economy is growing, though slowly, while it seems most of Western Europe enjoys near zero growth. One of the factors in the US stock market buoyancy seems to be European funds looking for growth.

http://www.moneyobserver.com/news/14-08-2014/europe-faces-fresh-recession-gdp-dips

I am in Oregon for a few more weeks yet- all the young people I know here who have good work skills are working, and not at minimum wage.(Which is already a bit higher in Oregon)
I wonder is Tsar is stuck in some crappy part of the USA? It sounds like it.


Here are four articles that highlight how terrible the opportunities are where I am...

http://www.ritaxpayers.com/featured/rho ... n-america/

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/rhod ... ob-market/

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101766880#.

http://patch.com/rhode-island/woonsocke ... tate-in-us

It is consistently rated the overall worst of all the 50 states.


Then why don't you just move? I have had to do it and pretty much everyone else I know has had to do it.
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Postby eurobrat » Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:11 pm

Cornfed wrote:
OutWest wrote:I am in Oregon for a few more weeks yet- all the young people I know here who have good work skills are working

Generally you get good work skills on the job, and generally if an employer is prepared to train you it is a long term arrangement. Hence your statement kind of boils down to "All the young people I know who are working are working". Is there some way you would meet all the young people who are unemployed and therefore can't afford to get out much?


Can't those unemployed people just copy what the employed people are doing, although theres nepotism and favouritism everywhere in the world there's still a lot of people that have to make it on their own.
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Postby Cornfed » Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:44 pm

eurobrat wrote:Can't those unemployed people just copy what the employed people are doing

For the most part, no. Most worthwhile ventures are now highly capitalized and done on a big scale. Say you wanted to be a coal miner. In is not realistic to do so yourself with your bucket and spade and it is not likely to be possible to learn most mining skills yourself because they involve using very expensive equipment and playing a small part as part of a team. Even with work that can be done individually, mostly you would need to be trained and inducted into the business at govCorp expense to be particularly sucessful.
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Postby eurobrat » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:06 pm

Cornfed wrote:
eurobrat wrote:Can't those unemployed people just copy what the employed people are doing

For the most part, no. Most worthwhile ventures are now highly capitalized and done on a big scale. Say you wanted to be a coal miner. In is not realistic to do so yourself with your bucket and spade and it is not likely to be possible to learn most mining skills yourself because they involve using very expensive equipment and playing a small part as part of a team. Even with work that can be done individually, mostly you would need to be trained and inducted into the business at govCorp expense to be particularly sucessful.


I don't know, I think everyone here who is persistent, educated, and hard working can find some little niche that pulls in $2,000-$3,000 a month easily.
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Postby Cornfed » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:24 pm

eurobrat wrote:There's pretty much nowhere you could go if you're not skilled. Why are all these kids in the US and Italy graduating with no skill in something, I thought that was the point of college. Even 3rd worlders without fancy bachelors and masters have some skill these days.

Often their degrees are bullshit, but even if not, with a degree you are generally just educated to be educated. Specific skills are generally learned on the job, and if no-one will give you a job in the first place then you cannot become skilled. In any case, most jobs requiring actual skills have been or will be outsourced or automated. The people getting the most money these days are just having it handed to them.

And I meant that the US is still a dynamic and large economy to make money off of. I remember when I was younger than his age I used to do all sorts of side jobs for extra money.

Generally you can only do that if there is a lot of money about. Nowadays most people are broke and so can't afford to pay kids to do side jobs. The people that have money generally have a lot of skilled former professionals to choose from to do their odd jobs, and so still don't hire kids.
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Postby OutWest » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:26 pm

Tsar wrote:
OutWest wrote:I wonder what part of the USA Tsar lives in? The US economy is growing, though slowly, while it seems most of Western Europe enjoys near zero growth. One of the factors in the US stock market buoyancy seems to be European funds looking for growth.

http://www.moneyobserver.com/news/14-08-2014/europe-faces-fresh-recession-gdp-dips

I am in Oregon for a few more weeks yet- all the young people I know here who have good work skills are working, and not at minimum wage.(Which is already a bit higher in Oregon)
I wonder is Tsar is stuck in some crappy part of the USA? It sounds like it.


Here are four articles that highlight how terrible the opportunities are where I am...

http://www.ritaxpayers.com/featured/rho ... n-america/

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/rhod ... ob-market/

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101766880#.

http://patch.com/rhode-island/woonsocke ... tate-in-us

It is consistently rated the overall worst of all the 50 states.


There you have it...you recognize yourself that you are the the WORST job market in the USA.
You really need to get the hell out of Dodge, to some more prosperous part of the USA.
Network with friends or relatives...so you can find a sofa to sleep on till you get a job.
Can you handle a barista gig? For entry level jobs, Starbucks is actually a good one. People make fun
of them till they learn they will pay them above min. wage, full health insurance and a 401K. Once you are in with them you can go anywhere in the country.

Are you reliable with a good attitude and good with people? Go someplace where there are QT gas stations. A full time clerk there starts at 40G, health insurance and a 401k.
It sounds like you are stuck in never never land...you need to get out.
PM me if you want to discuss specifics.
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Postby Cornfed » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:28 pm

eurobrat wrote:I don't know, I think everyone here who is persistent, educated, and hard working can find some little niche that pulls in $2,000-$3,000 a month easily.

If there is any rational basis for such a belief it should be a simple matter to come up with concrete suggestions complete with specific examples. How about starting another thread and doing that.
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Postby eurobrat » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:40 pm

OutWest wrote:Are you reliable with a good attitude and good with people? Go someplace where there are QT gas stations. A full time clerk there starts at 40G, health insurance and a 401k. It sounds like you are stuck in never never land...you need to get out.
PM me if you want to discuss specifics.


Are you shitting me? I had no idea Quick Trip employees were paid so well. I wouldn't want to do it for work but at least the option is there for people and $40k in a place like the midwest isn't bad at all, enough to save up and reinvent yourself in another country after a year or two.
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Postby droid » Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:50 am

publicduende wrote:Maybe Tsar needs an ego boost, but you surely need a reality check soon

Tsar an ego boost??hahaha

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1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
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Postby Tsar » Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:52 am

droid wrote:
publicduende wrote:Maybe Tsar needs an ego boost, but you surely need a reality check soon

Tsar an ego boost??hahaha

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Explain why you find that funny?
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Postby eurobrat » Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:54 am

Cornfed wrote:
eurobrat wrote:I don't know, I think everyone here who is persistent, educated, and hard working can find some little niche that pulls in $2,000-$3,000 a month easily.

If there is any rational basis for such a belief it should be a simple matter to come up with concrete suggestions complete with specific examples. How about starting another thread and doing that.


Maybe I will sit down and write it up. But looking at this realistically there's only 2 ways to make money anywhere.

1) Products and Trading
2) Services

You need to ask yourself what your key talents are start focusing on using them to make money. Everyone should have something going for them, don't tell me otherwise.

If you're looking for a job and you're having a hard time landing interviews then you need to be sending a higher amount of CV's each week. From what I have seen every 15 CV's I send to targeted job postings, I land an interview. Out of about 3 telephone interviews I have I get 1 second interview. For every 3 second interviews I complete, I get a job offer.

- 100 targeted CV's sent out = 6.6 telephone interviews.
- 3 telephone interviews = 1 second interview.
- 3 second interviews = 1 job offer.

Now of course if you sit there and do the math, out of 100 cv's I won't get enough second interviews so I need to boost the number of CV's I send out.

135 CV's sent out ÷ 15 = 9 interviews
9 ÷ 3 = 3 second interviews
3 ÷ 1 = 1 job

So it takes me about 135 targeted CV's to land a job, a real job from a real job posting. Results may vary and of course there's different factors that come into play but for me, that has been my magic number 135 CV's sent out = 1 job offer or maybe even 2. That's 6,6% CV's to interviews conversion rate which is above the top 25% CR and below the top 10% CR somewhere in the middle.

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If you want to get to a certain income level all you need to play is play the same numbers game with whatever product or service you are selling.
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Postby droid » Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:27 am

You're wasting your time with these guys EB, I've tried suggesting stuff and they always find all kinds of excuses. Everyone is below them and not worthy of their effort.
I've told them what you have, that if you have some skills and knock on doors they'll be busy.

Somebody explain to me what these guys do all day being unemployed FOR MANY MONTHS, watching tv or something?

What do you guys actually do during the daytime?

Tsar, you know what I mean. And you never answered where/who you get your current 'earnings' from.

I know I'm coming out as a deek, but believe me, not maliciously.
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
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Postby Cornfed » Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:31 am

eurobrat wrote:You need to ask yourself what your key talents are start focusing on using them to make money. Everyone should have something going for them, don't tell me otherwise.

As stated, in general people are not paid for their talents any more. As more jobs are automated or otherwise done away with, less and less people will be paid for their talents. Look at all the money paid to corporate whores, and they are probably not even that good at giving out blow jobs in the main. Also, even if you are talented in something, there is no guarantee that you will be considered for positions. Suppose your talents were in office admin and management. Do you think you would be considered for employment by this firm:
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/11/19/the-modern-corporate-harem/


If you're looking for a job and you're having a hard time landing interviews then you need to be sending a higher amount of CV's each week. From what I have seen every 15 CV's I send to targeted job postings, I land an interview. Out of about 3 telephone interviews I have I get 1 second interview. For every 3 second interviews I complete, I get a job offer.

- 100 targeted CV's sent out = 6.6 telephone interviews.
- 3 telephone interviews = 1 second interview.
- 3 second interviews = 1 job offer.

Now of course if you sit there and do the math, out of 100 cv's I won't get enough second interviews so I need to boost the number of CV's I send out.

135 CV's sent out ÷ 15 = 9 interviews
9 ÷ 3 = 3 second interviews
3 ÷ 1 = 1 job

For this to work, a number of assumptions would have to be true. You would need to be in a reasonably large city, the appropriate industries would need to be expanding rather than contracting, you would need to be eligible on the basis of gender, race, experience etc. Generally, where people are having trouble finding a job this is not the case.
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