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Postby The » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:00 pm

A foreigners perspective on Las Vegas:

http://www.returnofkings.com/42294/four-observations-on-the-las-vegas-hookup-culture

4 Observations On The Las Vegas Hookup Culture

By Troy Francis


I recently spent a week in Las Vegas. As a Brit abroad it was an interesting experience for many reasons, a few of which that pertain to hookup culture I discuss here.

Of course, Las Vegas (or the strip, anyway) exists only as a site of hedonism, and as such is distinct from other US cities. I know from personal experience that pickup in New York, for example, is a very different proposition. Nevertheless, since Vegas is a place of extremes—-extreme decadence, extreme sexual licentiousness, extreme lavishness, extreme wealth—and it is a kind of mecca for dissolute party-goers, it extrapolates some of the worst (or best, depending on your view) aspects of Western culture and gives them a setting where they can flourish on a grand scale.

Put another way, given that people can do pretty much whatever the hell they like in Vegas and get away with it (“what happens in Vegas stays in Vegasâ€￾), it functions in a similar way to the island in The Lord of the Flies: this is what human behavior looks like when you lift the normal societal restraints on it, and it’s not pretty.


1. Girls Will Extract Money From Unwary Men Mercilessly

Some girls will be out for free drinks, VIP tables, and whatever else they can get in nightclubs the world over, of course, but this is much more overt in Vegas. Perhaps this isn’t surprising. After all, Vegas is a wet dream of consumerism, capitalism’s logical endgame. This is a town where the hugest suites with panoramic views and gold baths are available only to those who have hustled hard. Unsurprisingly, something in the air brings out the hustling instinct in the women too.

Standing by the bar at the Encore Beach Club observing nubile, bikini-clad bodies dancing to Will.i.am’s flaccid EDM DJ set, I observed a man approach a group of four girls. He opened well and his target, the most attractive of the girls, responded well and appeared interested. After several minutes of conversation which included light touching, laughter and some push-pull banter, the man led the girls to the bar where he bought shots for all of them.

They said cheers, with the oblivious, entitled friends hardly even bothering to chink the man’s glass. As soon as this ritual was completed the man’s target seemed to grow cold and shifted away from him, excluding him from the group while he stood there slowly gathering chode dust. It was only a matter of time now. Shortly, the target turned to the man and gave him the classic valedictory speech.

‘Well, it was so nice to meet you. Thanks so much for the shawts!’

The girls walked off, leaving the man standing by the bar, a crestfallen buffoon eighty dollars poorer.


Here’s the thing: the girls looked educated and pleasant enough, and certainly not like classic club skanks. On some level, they must have been aware that what they had done was completely unacceptable by any normal measure, a con trick worthy of an old Times Square huckster, somewhere between theft and prostitution. But what recourse did the man have? Had he argued with the girls he’d have been deemed socially awkward or “creepy.â€￾ If he’d got angry he’d most likely have been thrown out by security.

Some time later, a girl with a sexy body and pretty, molly-eyes passed me. We smiled.

“Hey, you know if me and my friend had drinks I would totally cheers with you but we don’t have drinks,â€￾ she said.

“So are you gonna buy me one?â€￾ I responded.

The girl snarled, vampiric.

“Fuck you,â€￾ she said.


I would probably have had this chick down as a nice girl-next door type had I seen her in my local supermarket. But then Vegas is a space where bad female (and male) behaviour is allowed to flourish unchecked, where we see clearly that the “goodâ€￾ girls are really just bad girls in disguise.


2. Mate Guarding Is Excessive

With little or no restraint on female hypergamous behaviour, Vegas, more than anywhere, is a place where women are able to reject men at will until they find the highest value one possible to have sex with. As a consequence, mate guarding is way over the top. I found myself wondering idly whether the trend for men to work out until they are huge, which is slightly more prevalent in America than in Europe, is a subconscious response to the problem of women’s unbridled tendency to cheat.

At another day party I went to buy a drink. By the bar, two fairly unattractive Asian girls in bikinis were grinding their asses up against the crotches of two gaudily tattooed men in coloured snapbacks. One of the men noticed me and signaled for me not to come closer.

“You’re cool there brah. That’s cool – right there.â€￾

“I’m buying a drink,â€￾ I said. Of course, I had had no intention of trying to break into the set and steal his girl. She was probably a six at best.

“That’s cool man. Nice pompadour by the way. I used to have my hair like that.â€￾

“Thanks.â€￾

He was trying to warn me off, but there was no need—his girl wasn’t attractive enough to bother hitting on.
But when men are reduced to mate-guarding mediocre women, it is a clear signal that female hypergamy is out of control. If Vegas is the logical endpoint of the desires sublimated in everyday Western society, then expect to see more of this in normal life soon.

3. Contemporary Hip Hop Lyrics Reflect Precisely The Reality Of Female Behavior

Rather like dreams, the movies, TV shows, books and music of our culture operate as a kind of societal subconscious, revealing our innermost desires. This thought struck me at Surrender Nightclub, as I stood by the bar fending off hookers and listening to DJ Mustard bumping contemporary hip hop joints.

It’s no secret that mainstream rap has, for the most part, become significantly less intelligent in the last fifteen years or so. If you compare something like the arrest segment in Jay Z’s 99 Problems, with its clever wordplay and sharp social commentary to, say, Loyal by Chris Brown then you’ll get the point (although Loyal is actually imbued with red-pill truth). But what rap does do is celebrate the actual (sometimes secret) desires of its audience. Take these lines from DJ Mustard’s Down on Me:

Yea, my bitch drop it down for me

Take it to the room she go down on it

And she said she got a friend for me

And she ain’t afraid to spin on me

Told that ho bring more E, smoke joints to the face

My bitch so bad I f**k without a condom

Put it all in and I got her running

Hit it good got her walking funny

And she said it ain’t about the money


You can bemoan the fact that the art of lyric writing is dead and that these verses are about as subtle as a bottle of Dom Perignon in the face, but the point is that girls love this stuff. I saw more women twerking to these “misogynistâ€￾ lyrics than there were guys there. Why? Because contrary to what feminists would have us believe, women secretly love being characterised as bad girls who will do E, have threesomes and f**k hot alpha rappers without a condom because that is the reality of female nature.

In a room full of girls dancing to tracks like this, the message is the message, hidden in plain sight—women are sexual beings who are happy to act slutty with exciting alpha men, while simultaneously denying their sluttiness to beta rubes.


4. Vegas Is A Great Place to Get Laid

For this reason, Vegas is a great place to get laid. There are thousands of hot girls there with more arriving every day during peak times—a constantly renewable resource. They are willingly entering an environment where whatever paltry constraints are normally on their behavior are lifted, and they are able to act like the ho in DJ Mustard’s song.

Realize that Vegas is a place where the very worst excesses of Western culture are magnified and celebrated, and that knowing this you can benefit and relax. Let someone else worry about the decline for a while. Stick on a suit (I got opened loads in XS wearing a light grey jacket, white button-down shirt and a colorful pocket square) man up, approach like a machine, and you really can’t fail to get laid. Western culture may be in flames around us, but we might as well enjoy the party.


Ive never been to Vegas so i can't comment....On people WHO HAVE BEEN TO VEGAS what are your thoughts on this? Is it true?
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Postby RickyRetardo » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:14 pm

Honestly, to me, Las Vegas seems like a hotbed of unseemly people behaving badly.

It's not my idea of fun, at all.
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Re: Las Vegas Hook Up Culture (ROK)

Postby jamesbond » Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:27 am

The wrote:A foreigners perspective on Las Vegas:

http://www.returnofkings.com/42294/four-observations-on-the-las-vegas-hookup-culture

4 Observations On The Las Vegas Hookup Culture

By Troy Francis

That was a great article. I was in Vegas once for a few days and just like Winston has been saying, the women there are completely unapproachable and bitchy. You never see a single woman by herself, she is always with a group of her girlfriends (which makes it harder to approach them).

In Las Vegas, the more attractive the woman is, the more stuck up she is. The women there have their "bitch shield" up all the time, especially in bars and clubs.

I think Las Vegas is just as bad as New York city when it comes to meeting women.
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Postby steve55 » Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:17 am

I've got a page on my website that shows just how stuck up and narcissistic American women in Las Vegas are. I'm not sure if Vegas brings out the worst in American women or if the worst American women are drawn to that place.
See photos of them here http://www.globaldatingsolution.com/wom ... tlife.html

I don't believe many guys find action in Vegas. The women are never alone so that means they are more likely to have their bitch shield up. I've been to vegas ( many years ago) and I've had friends who've gone there and my conclusion is that contrary to this article, vegas is not that easy to hook up in. Women just wanna be attention whores and love to reject men in front of their friends because it builds their egos. Mostly, women in Vegas are sluttingly rubbing and grinding their bodies on each other. That doesn't interest me much so I don't care to go there for trying to meet women. Vegas is a great family vacation or great to go with a girlfriend or wife since there are some awesome hotels and restraunts and shows there.
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Postby Moretorque » Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:01 pm

Las Vegas is unsustainable and should go back to being desert, nothing a H Bomb can't take care of.
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Postby momopi » Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:12 am

The primary purpose of LV's existence is generating gaming (gambling) income for the State of NV. Call it an um... trade-off or compensation for having 83% of the State's land in Federal ownership. The Feds turned a blind eye to NV legal gaming and cat house for decades, while they cracked down on Indian casinos.

Not that I'm against BLM, mind you. Thanks to them we have vast areas of undeveloped nature, and some public access BLM shooting ranges.
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Postby djfourmoney » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:40 am

What do you expect?

I just came back from Vegas. I was in VIP a few times... Whatever, it's about as interesting as dish water. I am a Hip-Hop DJ, I have low tolerance for EDM generally.

The Marquee was where I was in VIP, Kaskade has his residency there, however he wasn't in the house it was on a Monday.

First who is the moron who's still buying chicks drinks at the tune of $80? If the goal is to hook up with women, then do it, why you spending money on them without knowing them first?

A fool and his money are soon parted; you see yet another example.

Dudes being hostile over average looking Asian woman? Wow how the mighty (White dudes) have fallen and fallen hard. Mr Vees recently posted a video about what he saw in Germany. His GF is twenty years younger than him, has worked as a model (she's 6'0) and in-shape. What he noticed is quite a few White men (Germans) we're holding hands or pushing strollers with chubby White women.

This is why I excoriate Black men with fat women and unattractive women; there is no reason to do this. I have noticed since the late 90's how many White men go down market in order to find somebody to marry to the point it's almost shocking when any man is married to an attractive woman.

Other than these things that have nothing to do Vegas but general happenings in Western culture, I learned nothing from this article.

Firstly you want to find nice women, go where the locals go, not the tourist, duh.

There plenty of tourist saving money and not staying at $80 or more a night hotels, hostels are a nice place to work your magic.

What most of these websites are good at is social commentary that's not happening on mainstream outlets.

But outside of that, just looks like a bunch of mindless ranting and raving. How can you blame a touristy city like Las Vegas when these same problems happen in any town, berg or major city in America, Canada or Great Britain?????

Did he really believe it would be somehow different? It's not...
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Re: Las Vegas Hook Up Culture (ROK)

Postby IraqVet2003 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:59 am

jamesbond wrote:
The wrote:A foreigners perspective on Las Vegas:

http://www.returnofkings.com/42294/four-observations-on-the-las-vegas-hookup-culture

4 Observations On The Las Vegas Hookup Culture

By Troy Francis

That was a great article. I was in Vegas once for a few days and just like Winston has been saying, the women there are completely unapproachable and bitchy. You never see a single woman by herself, she is always with a group of her girlfriends (which makes it harder to approach them).

In Las Vegas, the more attractive the woman is, the more stuck up she is. The women there have their "bitch shield" up all the time, especially in bars and clubs.

I think Las Vegas is just as bad as New York city when it comes to meeting women.


Fantastic article!!!
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Re: Las Vegas Hook Up Culture (ROK)

Postby Winston » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:43 pm

Here's another review of Las Vegas on SingleMansParadise blog.

https://singlemansparadise.com/las-vegas-nevada-location-review/

Like the ROK article, it's BS. Not only that, but it lies when it says that prices are cheap in Las Vegas. No way! The prices on the Vegas Strip are inflated and a ripoff. Everyone knows that. Even if you eat at a McDonald's on the strip, the price is double or triple what's normal. The part about the author getting a black hooker for $100 is auspicious too. Hookers in Vegas usually want $400 on the strip. They can go at $200 but that's if you find them on Craigslist, however they won't usually show you their photo so it's a risk, you won't know what the girl showing up looks like. There are apartments that function as brothels though, which will advertise on Craiglist too, but you have to drive to it and see the girls in person. Kind of shady. It also says that the women in Vegas are 5 out of 5 in terms of looks. BS. Most women there are hags with too much make up, an ugly soul and personality, and a bad vibe and look degenerate too. No way is that 5 out of 5 in ratings. WTF?! The author must have the lowest standards. lol

It's too bad other sites similar to ours aren't as truthful or real. Vegas is only fun if you are with friends or a romantic partner. It offers nothing for the single guy, at least in terms of women. All you can do as a single guy is gamble, drink and go to strip clubs, all of which will rip you off. No one I know thinks p4p is a good deal in Vegas. It's basically a "bring your own girl" type of place, not a place where singles can hook up easily. The girls there aren't approachable at all, not even in clubs. They don't even make eye contact. They aren't warm or friendly at all, not even a little. Even the older women there have inflated egos and think too highly of themselves. It has a similar vibe to Los Angeles. No way is it a friendly hook up place for picking up chicks. It's not even a place for making casual friends. Even the forum guys here who live in Vegas refuse to meet up much. It's very antisocial for sure.

So I don't know what theses blog authors are smoking. They seem full of it. Why does no one tell it like it is? Why does everyone lie except me? Sheesh.

I've offered guys $200 dollars to show me how approachable Vegas girls are. All of them chickened and refused the offer, cause they know I'm right. Yet they prefer to spout BS. I don't get why. Why don't they love truth like me and philosophers do? lol
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Re: Las Vegas Hook Up Culture (ROK)

Postby Eric » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:22 pm

God made woman for man. Not the other way around, so get it in your head, that's the truth- that's it.


Why in HELL would anyone want to go to Vegas? I've never understood it... It's like paying to go to a giant shithole and get ripped off.
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Re: Las Vegas Hook Up Culture (ROK)

Postby starchild5 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:30 am

Winston wrote:Here's another review of Las Vegas on SingleMansParadise blog.

https://singlemansparadise.com/las-vegas-nevada-location-review/

Like the ROK article, it's BS. Not only that, but it lies when it says that prices are cheap in Las Vegas. No way! The prices on the Vegas Strip are inflated and a ripoff. Everyone knows that. Even if you eat at a McDonald's on the strip, the price is double or triple what's normal. The part about the author getting a black hooker for $100 is auspicious too. Hookers in Vegas usually want $400 on the strip. They can go at $200 but that's if you find them on Craigslist, however they won't usually show you their photo so it's a risk, you won't know what the girl showing up looks like. There are apartments that function as brothels though, which will advertise on Craiglist too, but you have to drive to it and see the girls in person. Kind of shady. It also says that the women in Vegas are 5 out of 5 in terms of looks. BS. Most women there are hags with too much make up, an ugly soul and personality, and a bad vibe and look degenerate too. No way is that 5 out of 5 in ratings. WTF?! The author must have the lowest standards. lol

It's too bad other sites similar to ours aren't as truthful or real. Vegas is only fun if you are with friends or a romantic partner. It offers nothing for the single guy, at least in terms of women. All you can do as a single guy is gamble, drink and go to strip clubs, all of which will rip you off. No one I know thinks p4p is a good deal in Vegas. It's basically a "bring your own girl" type of place, not a place where singles can hook up easily. The girls there aren't approachable at all, not even in clubs. They don't even make eye contact. They aren't warm or friendly at all, not even a little. Even the older women there have inflated egos and think too highly of themselves. It has a similar vibe to Los Angeles. No way is it a friendly hook up place for picking up chicks. It's not even a place for making casual friends. Even the forum guys here who live in Vegas refuse to meet up much. It's very antisocial for sure.

So I don't know what theses blog authors are smoking. They seem full of it. Why does no one tell it like it is? Why does everyone lie except me? Sheesh.

I've offered guys $200 dollars to show me how approachable Vegas girls are. All of them chickened and refused the offer, cause they know I'm right. Yet they prefer to spout BS. I don't get why. Why don't they love truth like me and philosophers do? lol


Vegas is the den of Jews...Even the Mayor of Vegas is a Jew. The whole strip is owned by the Jews.

They promote Vegas through Hollywood. Macau has already over taken Vegas in terms of revenue and visits but even there its owned by Crypto-Jews.

Casinos promote expensive hookers because they think...that's the kind of men will come to them anyways...You absolutely never win in Vegas or Macau..If you start winning..you will be kicked out.

Its all BS hyped up Jewish propaganda..There is nothing in it for real men.

The best place for men really is Angeles City and Pattaya..Not Vegas and Macau...Over Expensive Jewish Cons.

ROk, Roosh will never promote these two cities in Asia..They want to sell fake dreams to fake people.
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Re: Las Vegas Hook Up Culture (ROK)

Postby Adama » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:50 am

Shortly, the target turned to the man and gave him the classic valedictory speech.

‘Well, it was so nice to meet you. Thanks so much for the shawts!’

The girls walked off, leaving the man standing by the bar, a crestfallen buffoon eighty dollars poorer.


Few men want to accept what I've been saying. Evil American women are all narcissists; wolves in sheep's clothing, natural brute beasts. They are literally playing games with the hearts and affections of men. Playing with men's attraction and ability to fall for them like a cat treats a dead mouse. This is what a great number of American women are.

These are the women who use their bodies or sexuality or flirtation to lure in men. The men then feed these women the ego boosts that they live for. This form of ego boost is as good for evil women as scoring a one night stand is for a player. It's what they live for, and it makes them feel alive, and validates that they are special and above the rest.

This power women have has literally destroyed their souls for many of them. They abandoned their consciences when they started just flirting with men for kicks, breaking hearts and playing with affection.

Women just wanna be attention whores and love to reject men in front of their friends because it builds their egos.


Yes, and what most men do not understand is that, This is LIFE itself for many women. The excitement of this power has destroyed them. If you think that men see women as objects, well you can see how many women think of men? As simply objects to be lured in and rejected and then belittled. This is the other half nobody knows about.

Some evil men want to lure in women with money just to sleep with them. While some evil women just want to lure in men to get the validation of being wanted, and then to inflict the pain (misandry) of rejection and heartbreak. And then for good measure, they'll blame you for not being good enough for them.

These are people walking after their own lusts. Now if you know that even insulting another person with your lips is a crime, what is the penalty for women who stealthily do this to men?

They even have plausible deniability and a (fake) cloak of righteousness on their side (as all women are seen as morally superior, innocent and infallible). While they act like Lucy to your Charlie Brown, having foreknown and premeditated to do such to as many men as possible. They are hiding in plain sight, pretending (or using the cloaks of) normal human beings, while they were intending the whole time to use you and discard you. Is that not a ravening wolf?

I remember one divorced woman I knew who told me that it was her goal to hurt as many men as possible. She said that she "wanted to hurt them all", actually.
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