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Rooshv Exposed as a Perfect Sociopath - Proof

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Postby Jester » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:17 am

Winston wrote:
Roosh wrote:I don't post details of my meetings with RVF members but this particular meeting revealed details that members who have been reading his posts should know about.

We meet up somewhere in Poland and decide to hit a club. We were a bit of a mismatch since our ages and background were so different, but that wasn't a huge deal.

I eventually approach a pretty blonde girl and it goes well. She has three friends but they let me game her since she obviously likes me. Kamaki was doing his own thing elsewhere in the club. After about 45 minutes, Kamaki appears and starts talking to one of her friends without me setting up an introduction. My girl asks if I know him and I said, "We met at the Starbucks today."

So my girl starts touching me and getting closer. She's complimenting me and based on my experience, this has a high chance of leading to intimacy. I'm getting ready to buckle down a bit, build some comfort, dance a little, and so on. Then one of her friend's comes to tell her something and causes her face to turn upside down. Then she tells me this:

"Your friend just offered my friend a gift or something in exchange for him having sex with her."

My girl immediately goes cold and asks me if I think she's a hoe. She asks me if I also do that, offering things for sex. It's obvious she's very upset. It was a bad scene, one of the most uncomfortable I've had in Eastern Europe, with a girl who I was taking a liking to. One hour of work on her was completely gone because Kamaki solicited her friend in a normal club.

I confronted him later in the night when I ran into him on the street. He said that she misunderstood, that something went wrong in the translation. I said, "But she told her the exact same thing you write about doing in Ukraine, about offering gifts in exchange for sex."

"Yeah but I only do that in Ukraine, not here."

"Whatever you said, you ended up f***ing me over."

I told him that I couldn't possibly associate with him further and we parted ways.

This could have been much worse for me. If the girls complained about him to the club, I may have been questioned by the staff and kicked out. I'm "lucky" that I only lost out on sex with a very attractive girl, but the damage may persist for me if she tells her friends. I'm not in a huge city.

After hearing Kamaki's strong denial to me, I don't believe him. A random girl who doesn't know about the forum confronted me about him doing the exact same thing he has written about here. While I don't think he purposefully wanted to hurt me, the collateral damage from his whoremongering is such that I was greatly affected by it. I must also add that I felt a strong stench around me after Kamaki's actions were revealed. The whoremonger stain is quite foul to those who don't partake in it.

Kamaki has nearly 5,000 posts on this forum. Along with my observation of him in action, my instinct now tells me that the majority of his game is approaching girls and offering gifts or money for sex, wherever he goes. This realization gives sense to his posts, whereby his information is either slightly accurate or completely off-base. Whoremongers get treated differently than guys like us, so that's why their advice on women are a few notes off.

As you know, RVF is not a P4P forum and is also not a forum for whoremongers to post on even if they don't mention it outright. Whoremongers have a different mentality that I want to keep far away from my sites. While I'm obviously not pleased that Kamaki served me a nuclear cockblock, I'm less pleased that his contributions have possibly polluted the forum. Therefore his posting will be indefinitely suspended before an outright ban. He can save his PM's or subscribed threads for the time being. His lifestyle and game does not match RVF values. My meeting with Kamaki was a negative experience and I hope by writing it here I can avoid the same fate for others. If you see posts by guys promoting p4p here, hit the report button.

I must also state that I am having repeated bad experiences with non-Western guys. The pattern is clear enough that unless you're American/Canadian/British or Western European, I have to weigh the risk in meeting you.


OK WW, thanks for clearing that up.

Roosh: +1 to you for taking a stand, and taking out the trash.
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Postby Cornfed » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:54 am

So Doosh thinks that customers paying for something are bad, but those scamming, wheedling or otherwise manipulating others into giving them the same thing, often spending vastly more money in the process than if they had just directly paid, are good? Yep, total psychopath.
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Postby Repatriate » Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:29 am

Greek kamaki wrote:
The wrote:How stupid can Greek Kamaki be to even want to hang out with a member of ANY forum!

Me personally, I like to read Roosh V's stuff but I would never actually hang out with Roosh V in real life!! Come on!


You are right a bit.But roosh is not so bad.My impressions about him were mostly positive.O.K. superficial etc monolithic views but I could not imagine the degree of phanaticism and extremism on these guys.It is american education or middle age roots?They see everything black and white.
If you are the most clever maybe I accept.But with the middle?WTF?This is entitlement.


You're an intelligent and cultured man. Glad to have you here. There are many Roosh members who read HA as well. The explanation is what many many posters were looking for but Roosh pretty much initiated a ban and started to throw down the gauntlet.

I noticed what you do is very similar to what Ladislav does as well. You're a sponsor and you're happy in that role.. There's nothing wrong with it and I agree certain efforts result in the same outcome but one persons moralistic appraisal of a situation may color it.
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Postby Billy » Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:51 am

Greek kamaki wrote:
starchild5 wrote:
publicduende wrote:
I'm sorry to hear that. That's one of the problems with meeting people you feel like you know. Most of the time it is a let down on some level.....but there are some incredible people in the world. It's like the game, plow through the bad because the rewards are worth it.


LOL it adds up mate... :) You know I am no Roosh fan and, like most of the people here, consider him a pathetic posturing clown. I have to say though...that poster whom Roosh banned and irated you does sound like you. LOL you could have written that...it was you, admit it :)

Roosh and his movement really are the rock bottom, the hall of shame of any kind of discourse over gender dynamics, relationships, dating and even self-improvement. I know a lot of Indian people who, just like many other Asian cultures, love to be polite, inspired, and end up sounding a wee too cheesy for the macho keyboard warrior ways of the manosphere renegade that orbit around Roosh. I sometimes write like this and wouldn't last a day on RVF or RoK, even if my opinions were non-antagonistic and perfectly compliant to theirs.

The very fact Roosh has to be afraid of ruining his reputation because of a single acquaintance playing monger means whatever passes as his game is utterly fragile. A man worth his salt will be perfectly able to apologise and convince the baffled young lady at hand that he is a serious, smart and well-intentioned man. Which Roosh is not. LOL talk about having a guilty conscience to start with...


LOL...No...The guys is from US...check his old posts...Its not the first time.....He has banned members for saying lot less. This guy Greek Kamaki has shared lots of valuable information, forget that, he should have atleast be given a chance to say his side of things...No, We are suppose to take his word for what happened between them.

The guy had over 5000 posts, 100+ Rep and met many guys and this is the first time, he got such a negative rebuttal.

I researched a bit more and Roosh is Persian originally from Iran born in US. He displays the arrogance, cockiness, pseudo machismo of middle eastern people when they gain any following, plus the way they treat women...

I'm telling you this guy needs a good third world beating :D :D the one we see in youtube videos from Thailand. where western guys get beaten up for approaching wrong women.. thinking all Thai women are game..gosh...Such cockiness...He hasn't suffered, does not know what life is - Just living in a delusion thanks to the strength of dollar.....


Because I dared to write what many guys think but are afraid to write I really liberated them.I told them essentially take your cocks out and do not be afraid.But roosh and his supporters although revolutionists on surface are deep down conservativists with Islam notions they do not want the guys taking their cocks out and get in charge.It is not the Balkan style.


Hi GK, you remember me? I told you then that it´s difficult for you at rvf. Anyway you did a good job and it was very entertaining. But it was only a matter of time that had to come. You are too crazy for the them. To much energy like you are on Balkan-Power-Drug

Aren´t you tired of balkan power. You earned yourself some relaxation. Why don´t you come to SEA? Now you are older time rest a little bit.

Are you still working in Germany?


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Postby Greek kamaki » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:38 pm

Billy wrote:
Greek kamaki wrote:
starchild5 wrote:
publicduende wrote:
I'm sorry to hear that. That's one of the problems with meeting people you feel like you know. Most of the time it is a let down on some level.....but there are some incredible people in the world. It's like the game, plow through the bad because the rewards are worth it.


LOL it adds up mate... :) You know I am no Roosh fan and, like most of the people here, consider him a pathetic posturing clown. I have to say though...that poster whom Roosh banned and irated you does sound like you. LOL you could have written that...it was you, admit it :)

Roosh and his movement really are the rock bottom, the hall of shame of any kind of discourse over gender dynamics, relationships, dating and even self-improvement. I know a lot of Indian people who, just like many other Asian cultures, love to be polite, inspired, and end up sounding a wee too cheesy for the macho keyboard warrior ways of the manosphere renegade that orbit around Roosh. I sometimes write like this and wouldn't last a day on RVF or RoK, even if my opinions were non-antagonistic and perfectly compliant to theirs.

The very fact Roosh has to be afraid of ruining his reputation because of a single acquaintance playing monger means whatever passes as his game is utterly fragile. A man worth his salt will be perfectly able to apologise and convince the baffled young lady at hand that he is a serious, smart and well-intentioned man. Which Roosh is not. LOL talk about having a guilty conscience to start with...


LOL...No...The guys is from US...check his old posts...Its not the first time.....He has banned members for saying lot less. This guy Greek Kamaki has shared lots of valuable information, forget that, he should have atleast be given a chance to say his side of things...No, We are suppose to take his word for what happened between them.

The guy had over 5000 posts, 100+ Rep and met many guys and this is the first time, he got such a negative rebuttal.

I researched a bit more and Roosh is Persian originally from Iran born in US. He displays the arrogance, cockiness, pseudo machismo of middle eastern people when they gain any following, plus the way they treat women...

I'm telling you this guy needs a good third world beating :D :D the one we see in youtube videos from Thailand. where western guys get beaten up for approaching wrong women.. thinking all Thai women are game..gosh...Such cockiness...He hasn't suffered, does not know what life is - Just living in a delusion thanks to the strength of dollar.....


Because I dared to write what many guys think but are afraid to write I really liberated them.I told them essentially take your cocks out and do not be afraid.But roosh and his supporters although revolutionists on surface are deep down conservativists with Islam notions they do not want the guys taking their cocks out and get in charge.It is not the Balkan style.


Hi GK, you remember me? I told you then that it´s difficult for you at rvf. Anyway you did a good job and it was very entertaining. But it was only a matter of time that had to come. You are too crazy for the them. To much energy like you are on Balkan-Power-Drug

Aren´t you tired of balkan power. You earned yourself some relaxation. Why don´t you come to SEA? Now you are older time rest a little bit.

Are you still working in Germany?


Our blood is boiling as we say in Greece.No way I can relax.When I have time I take the train and hit Poland or the plane to Ukraine or Belarus.When I only think of the non stop parade of women in slavic countries and what sb is missing in the West everyday I get agitated.EE is like a drug.Once you become addicted you never get back because you develop withdrawal symptoms.
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Postby Billy » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:56 pm

GK, I see you have to much energy. I saw you got banned by Naught Nomad to. What bunch.

Most guys here are not hight energy like you. Even Banano who is serbian has no balkan power. Maybe you motivate us for EE.

I am doing my first trip to SEA. I did not game in EE. I think I am to old for EE, but maybe I will make a little trip. I am 41 now.

Stay here man. Put some sociological intel here :)
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Postby Greek kamaki » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:50 pm

What do you think roosh offers them?A quick way out the American dream.He is a snake trader as we say in Greece.He has calm approach and makes statements but everything is forethought.I rely more on outburst and surprise.Money use is for boost.Roosh needs time to persuade the girl he is serious nice etc and a guy who deserves some company.He relies on communication.My communication is more limited.I just tell girls the right words what they want to hear.
In Ukraine it was difficult for roosh because he had no real job to present and the girls were suspicious.In Poland he passes much better because the girls want more to have fun there and they are used to free stylers guys.
When I got to my preferred clubs I easily landed girls while roosh prefered clubs with lots of students.When the competition level is high with lots of men he cannot operate because he is slow and all the targets get quickly occupied.
In some phase I told him we have one minute to approach this couple because they will soon be occupied.In one minute an English speaking guy had started talking to them.Shit said roosh.
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Postby Winston » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:13 pm

Greek kamaki wrote:Roosh is crazy.In general I do not have problem with crazy people I like them but is a different style of craziness.Still I forgive him because he damaged himself.


Welcome Greek Kamaki. Great to have you here. How did you find this thread? Have you given your side of the story on the fiasco with Roosh yet? There are two sides to every story I'm sure.

Why did he ban you? Did you really offer money to a woman? Or was it a misunderstanding? Why is that so wrong?

You will find that we are a much nicer folk here. :) We have a strong free speech policy too, for the most part, so each member is free to speak their mind freely, within reasonable behavioral guidelines of course.

I think Roosh sort of damaged his own reputation by meeting you and then banning you. Now others will be afraid to meet him lest they get banned too. That means he will be unable to form a true rapport with his fans, and thus degrade the quality of his community and trust.

As they say, "it's his loss, not yours".

Has he met anyone else before and banned them?

Btw, we have some threads here about going to Greece for girls. Maybe you can comment in them. Type "Greece" in the Google search box above.

Is Greece better than Italy for approaching girls?
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Postby Banano » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:16 pm

GK

What do you think is the real reason behind your banning on RVF?
Seems like Roosh wants to believe that you offered $$$ to one of the girls in club but you denied that happened and he still goes ahead with banning ?
Wouldnt he give you the benefit of the doubt and say something like 'ok, maybe music was too load and bitch misunderstood you' ... he cant be that shallow..

There must be something more to it, maybe he feels threatened by you, are you better with ladies than him?

Roosh is acting strange lately
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Postby Jester » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:31 pm

Billy wrote: I saw you got banned by Naught Nomad to.


How the f**k could anyone possibly manage to be banned by NN? He has almost no boundaries.
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Postby Billy » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:32 pm

Guys GK put his version on the naughty nomad forum. There you can read everything in detail though he wrote here also some things about it.
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Postby Billy » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:35 pm

Jester wrote:
Billy wrote: I saw you got banned by Naught Nomad to.


How the f**k could anyone possibly manage to be banned by NN? He has almost no boundaries.


Jester my bester (my best jester in german :) ) The thing is that naughty nomad cooperates with roosh. So if roosh says ban somebody, nn will do it and did it often in the past.
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Postby Billy » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:42 pm

Winston wrote:
Greek kamaki wrote:Roosh is crazy.In general I do not have problem with crazy people I like them but is a different style of craziness.Still I forgive him because he damaged himself.


Welcome Greek Kamaki. Great to have you here. How did you find this thread? Have you given your side of the story on the fiasco with Roosh yet? There are two sides to every story I'm sure.

Why did he ban you? Did you really offer money to a woman? Or was it a misunderstanding? Why is that so wrong?

You will find that we are a much nicer folk here. :) We have a strong free speech policy too, for the most part, so each member is free to speak their mind freely, within reasonable behavioral guidelines of course.

I think Roosh sort of damaged his own reputation by meeting you and then banning you. Now others will be afraid to meet him lest they get banned too. That means he will be unable to form a true rapport with his fans, and thus degrade the quality of his community and trust.

As they say, "it's his loss, not yours".

Has he met anyone else before and banned them?

Btw, we have some threads here about going to Greece for girls. Maybe you can comment in them. Type "Greece" in the Google search box above.

Is Greece better than Italy for approaching girls?


He comes from a nerdig background. So he is low energy. Even in the RVF guys talk about him being low energy. This must not be bad specially for work and thinking. But in the matter of pick up it´s very bad. As he said themself PUA´s are clowns and Roosh is a bad clown because he is not entertaining because he is low energy. Intellectual guys need time to think deeply. They are very bad at acting fast and powerful. The balkan caveman style is clearly not for him either.

Balkan power works not that good with the RVF. The other greek guy "ill" mechanico has some balkan power but he focuses more on trolling the forum.

It´s sometimes astonishing that kind of frauds like Gmanifesto got so much space there.
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Postby Jester » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:46 pm

Winston wrote:
Greek kamaki wrote:Roosh is crazy.In general I do not have problem with crazy people I like them but is a different style of craziness.Still I forgive him because he damaged himself.


Welcome Greek Kamaki. Great to have you here. How did you find this thread? Have you given your side of the story on the fiasco with Roosh yet? There are two sides to every story I'm sure.

Why did he ban you? Did you really offer money to a woman? Or was it a misunderstanding? Why is that so wrong?

You will find that we are a much nicer folk here. :) We have a strong free speech policy too, for the most part, so each member is free to speak their mind freely, within reasonable behavioral guidelines of course.

I think Roosh sort of damaged his own reputation by meeting you and then banning you. Now others will be afraid to meet him lest they get banned too. That means he will be unable to form a true rapport with his fans, and thus degrade the quality of his community and trust.

As they say, "it's his loss, not yours".

Has he met anyone else before and banned them?

Btw, we have some threads here about going to Greece for girls. Maybe you can comment in them. Type "Greece" in the Google search box above.

Is Greece better than Italy for approaching girls?


Cant believe you are sucking up to this mongering, swaggering braggart, Winston.

Mongers are fine for descriptions of women's looks in other countries. Nothing else.

He has nothing useful to impart about "approaching girls", because as he states above, he only does well approaching "one-minute"-layable sluts in his, um, "preferred clubs".

Yes, if you are an approach machine, stylish, loaded, and willing to screw anything, you play a numbers game and can "do well", in a crowd of experienced, greedy sluts. I'm not knocking approaching, or playing the numbers. I'm knocking the sordid, whoring nature of the women he is with. Bottom line, his notches don't count.

It is Roosh, that amoral beast, who should be welcome here, not GK. Because Roosh at least tells the truth.

Let me be clear: I am (EDIT: "***NOT*** against") against putting a woman on full-time payroll. I am also not attacking paying for transactional sex, although I don't personally do it. I am down on someone bragging about his bullshit "power" when it is really his "wallet" that is doing the talking.

Actually, let me correct that. His bragging is not the problem. Little kids brag. What's annoying is that anyone would take this Balkan Bozo seriously.
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Postby Banano » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:56 pm

GK post taken from NN forum


"I know that he will press naughtynomad to take everything down and that he watches everything close but naughtynomad will not succumb.
Let's now begin with the written post.I will use the Germanic critique style so that he will have no way to answer.If he attempts to answer he will fail completely.

'We meet up somewhere in Poland and decide to hit a club.'

How did we meet up?He does not tell this because then what follows would set his story in doubt.So the reality is that I sent him an email to meet and the reason was that he had claimed before that I do not exist that my stories were fraud.So he had sent me an email the week before when I made an open invitation for a wingman in forum but I wrote him I would not stay in Poland more than a weekend so we could not meet when he came on Tuesday.He could use this as a proof of avoidance that I do not really do what I supposedely write about and I am afraid of exposure.In case I appeared he thought probably he could all the time comfortably accuse me as whoremonger.So he thought he was covered from both sides.Either you do not appear and I claim you are fraud or you appear and expose you as a whoremonger.It is the silly middle Eastern thinking.Of course in any case I would win he just could not understand that cause of limited view.

'We were a bit of a mismatch since our ages and background were so different, but that wasn't a huge deal.'

Like he was largely superior while in reality he is 4 years younger has no real job and looks like having lived under very difficult circumstances.(close to bum).

'I eventually approach a pretty blonde girl and it goes well.'

What he does not say is that for the time before he could not approach anything due to bad position.In fact at some point he told me 'I do not wing.I have to wing since the USA.I always operate solo.'To which I responded 'I also operate solo' and engaged immediately the 19 years old student next to me.This was when the situation started to go shief as roosh was clearly upset that I did not tell him to open the sets but took the initiative alone.While I was talking with the student I saw him talking to the blonde surrounded by 3 of her friends.Moreover the blonde girl was not pretty.

' She has three friends but they let me game her since she obviously likes me'

Another case of naiveness and bad estimation.Her friends also later let me game them one by one without interrupting.It was only that they had good predisposition as many polish girls in general not that there was any particular attraction.

'Kamaki was doing his own thing elsewhere in the club. '

Because I was already with the student and when I took her number I tried to figure out the situation where many bombshells circulated far superior than his blonde.In fact I told him to go upstairs but he told me 'I am working on the blonde.'Then I told him O.K.
The problem as I found out later was that the party upstairs was mostly foreign with lots of girls from Yugoslavia,Scandinavia etc which also explained the relatively higher quality than usual and why most foreign guys seemed to hook rather well.(they were acquaintances with the girls).

'After about 45 minutes, Kamaki appears and starts talking to one of her friends without me setting up an introduction.'

As I passed by I saw him with the blonde and her friends and decided to test the waters if the friends were available since the other targets were occupied.I did not need any introduction since he was in the corner with the blonde and the friends were close to me at the bar.Moreover if I got introduced I should have to remain and I did not want that.

'My girl asks if I know him and I said, "We met at the Starbucks today."

I doubt if he said that although we had not thought of a story how we met.

'So my girl starts touching me and getting closer. She's complimenting me and based on my experience, this has a high chance of leading to intimacy. I'm getting ready to buckle down a bit, build some comfort, dance a little, and so on. '

So you notice a pattern.While I was talking to her friends his girl became enthusiastic about him.Why?Because she saw the positive reactions of her friends towards me and associated him with me.This was a DHV for him and he wanted it to continue this way.
Moreover touching from a girl etc do not mean much in Poland they are very usual.But probably she upgraded her attitude towards him while I was present.

'Then one of her friend's comes to tell her something and causes her face to turn upside down. Then she tells me this:'

He does not tell where I was when that supposedely happened.Because probably it did not happen.What really happened was that both girls told me they had boyfriends so I decided to end the conversation and leave.Roosh probably saw that as a sign of disrespect that I was not winging properly.He noticed probably that the attitude of his girl declined accordingly after I left and stopped giving him DHV.
For roosh this was inexcusable that is why he ivented the whole story about me offering gifts to girls etc.He could not forgive what he saw as ungratefullness that I refused to wing when no benefits were for me in view.And why should I do so when I had paid so much money for the train and hotel not to mention the exhaustion by the 11 hour trip from Germany.Why should I stay for targets which were not available only to give some chances more to roosh.
I understood this was the case of his anger after the manipulations of the story from his side and the inaccuracies what he purposely ommited.Let's see some for example:

'Your friend just offered my friend a gift or something in exchange for him having sex with her."

My girl immediately goes cold and asks me if I think she's a prostitute. She asks me if I also do that, offering things for sex. It's obvious she's very upset. It was a bad scene, one of the most uncomfortable I've had in Eastern Europe, with a girl who I was taking a liking to. One hour of work on her was completely gone because Kamaki solicited her friend in a normal club.'

Totally ridiculous.A polish girl never talks like that.Even if you really offered her money(you not your friend) she would never talk like that.She would say sth along the lines thank you but I cannot accept.Anyway if sb has any doubt what will happen I challenge him to go to a normal disco and start offering gifts to girls and see the results first hand.I inform him he will not pleased.It is ridiculous that even sb can think of a guy telling a girl in a normal disco in Poland 'if you sleep with me I will give you 100 euro' and not have consequences.Totally ridiculous.Again I invite anyone to try it.

'I confronted him later in the night when I ran into him on the street. '

Another lie.In reality I came to him in the club to tell him to go to another club and then he pushed me away from the girls and to my surprise told me 'you f***ed me up man.'I had no idea what he was talking about.Then he told me you offered money to her friend.Why?I told him what is that?It never happened.Then he told me'I do not want to hang out with you.'I told him O.K. and left for another club.Later I saw him outside the club and decided to talk to him if the paranoia had subsided but he walked with me away to the street and told me that I had written the same on the forums etc.In retrospect I think he did that delieberately(pushing me away from the girls taking me away in the street) so I could not use the girls as witnesses and totally debunk him.He would not let me get any contact with the girls this is for sure.

'This could have been much worse for me. If the girls complained about him to the club, I may have been questioned by the staff and kicked out. I'm "lucky" that I only lost out on sex with a very attractive girl, but the damage may persist for me if she tells her friends. I'm not in a huge city.'

Another BS.I visit these places often the last year and never had any problems and he would have a problem because they saw him with me.Moreover if the girls complained about sth like this in Poland the security would have a good laugh.This is not America ridden with feminists.

'After hearing Kamaki's strong denial to me, I don't believe him. A random girl who doesn't know about the forum confronted me about him doing the exact same thing he has written about here. '

The guy who makes his flag the untrustworthy nature of girls claims to believe a girl he just met and not a guy who is relatively known for years.This is about his real belief system where he really puts the girls and where the guys.

'Kamaki has nearly 5,000 posts on this forum.'

And they are real posts.

' Along with my observation of him in action, my instinct now tells me that the majority of his game is approaching girls and offering gifts or money for sex'

First we have to trust 'a girl' then his instinct.

'This realization gives sense to his posts, whereby his information is either slightly accurate or completely off-base. Whoremongers get treated differently than guys like us, so that's why their advice on women are a few notes off.'

That is why in his thread about men as canaries wrote that his experiences match mine.

'While I'm obviously not pleased that Kamaki served me a nuclear cockblock, I'm less pleased that his contributions have possibly polluted the forum.'

Not that he made money using my observations about Ukraine(the idea of girls wanting a lover,a sponsor and a future groom as the approach style for Ukrainian girls are replicas from what I wrote and his book about Ukraine was the most successful commercially because he stole from everyone.If he used my stuff about polish girls he would make triple as many sales with Bang Poland but he woul maybe have to face law suits).

'I must also state that I am having repeated bad experiences with non-Western guys. The pattern is clear enough that unless you're American/Canadian/British or Western European, I have to weigh the risk in meeting you. '

The middle Eastern Turk has problem with non Western guys.From my side I prefer the company of EE and Balkan guys who never behave like roosh and are direct.
Then he proceeds to talk about social miscalibration the one who talked openly in the club about girls and game without realising that the guys next to us were foreigners spoke English and listened to everything.Later we got bad looks from them and their companies and it was one of the reasons of blocking."
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