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POLL: Should unemployed American men join the military?

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Should unemployed men join the military?

Yes, the Army or the Navy
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20%
Only the Army
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No votes
Only the Navy
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No votes
Neither, they shouldn't join the military
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Total votes : 5

POLL: Should unemployed American men join the military?

Postby Tsar » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:46 pm

Should unemployed American men join the military? If that is the only option for employment would the Navy be a better choice than the Army?

Why that would likely be the only option for most men:
1. Most jobs go to older workers
2. Jobs get off-shored
3. Female Millenials get preference
4. LGBT get special recruitment events
5. Hispanic Workers are another group that is now favored
6. Ivy League grads get first selection out of anyone
7. Private sector jobs are scarce
8. Any decent job gets between 100 to 500 applications. Odds of a Millenial getting selected for an interview and then offered the job, less than 0.5%.
9. Most of the jobs also go to the American elites or to the children or friends of the American elite
10. Regular millenial men have it the worst out of anyone
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Re: POLL: Should unemployed American men join the military?

Postby onethousandknives » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:01 pm

No, just start your own business. Only $200 or so for an LLC in most states.
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Re: POLL: Should unemployed American men join the military?

Postby The » Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:43 am

If they can qualify for the military then why not? If it is a way to get out the rut and to make them self useful and not become criminals in society, then i dont see why not...
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Re: POLL: Should unemployed American men join the military?

Postby Tsar » Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:06 am

onethousandknives wrote:No, just start your own business. Only $200 or so for an LLC in most states.


Starting a business would be great but is that realistic for a person with no assets and no capital? Assume the only thing the person has financially on their side is no debt. Also, doesn't an LLC require a board of directors or more than one shareholder? I remember reading something like that.

The military seems like it might be my only option if I don't have anything lined up after the New Year.
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Re: POLL: Should unemployed American men join the military?

Postby Ghost » Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:48 am

If you are really thinking about joining the military, then you are f***ing insane. You'd be fighting for everything you stand against.

Look, you need a good dose of reality. You're wasting away at home with no prospects. But unlike a lot of guys on here, you know where you want to go and exactly what kind of girl you want. And you know what? You can go there soon. But you aren't.

You can go to Ukraine or Russia and be an English teacher. This is the quickest route and you could be out there finding the girl of your dreams in a matter of weeks. What's that? You don't want to be an English teacher for a little while? If that's what you say, then you're telling me you won't make a modest sacrifice to go meet the girl of your dreams. And that's bullshit. You can teach and save some money while working a business idea. Even men of modest means can make something happen. I'm not saying you'll make it big...but you can make it.

Now go. Get on Dave's ESL and other sites and go look at jobs. Email. Apply. Make contacts. Just do it. And do it now. No more excuses. And go start studying Russian. Today. Make it a routine. I've been a teacher abroad before. I can guide you through the process.

Go do this. Do it now. No more excuses. How bad are you going to feel if you are here a year from today posting on HA about some dream girl you never went to find?

Get this done. Right now. Kill your excuses. Or they will kill you.
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Re: POLL: Should unemployed American men join the military?

Postby Cornfed » Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:13 am

You are going to be hard pushed to find a moral way of making money in such an evil society, but surely you can do better than murdering people for the banksters. You have to draw the line somewhere.
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Re: POLL: Should unemployed American men join the military?

Postby Tsar » Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:12 am

Ghost wrote:If you are really thinking about joining the military, then you are f***ing insane. You'd be fighting for everything you stand against.

Look, you need a good dose of reality. You're wasting away at home with no prospects. But unlike a lot of guys on here, you know where you want to go and exactly what kind of girl you want. And you know what? You can go there soon. But you aren't.

You can go to Ukraine or Russia and be an English teacher. This is the quickest route and you could be out there finding the girl of your dreams in a matter of weeks. What's that? You don't want to be an English teacher for a little while? If that's what you say, then you're telling me you won't make a modest sacrifice to go meet the girl of your dreams. And that's bullshit. You can teach and save some money while working a business idea. Even men of modest means can make something happen. I'm not saying you'll make it big...but you can make it.

Now go. Get on Dave's ESL and other sites and go look at jobs. Email. Apply. Make contacts. Just do it. And do it now. No more excuses. And go start studying Russian. Today. Make it a routine. I've been a teacher abroad before. I can guide you through the process.

Go do this. Do it now. No more excuses. How bad are you going to feel if you are here a year from today posting on HA about some dream girl you never went to find?

Get this done. Right now. Kill your excuses. Or they will kill you.


I know that I would in many regards be fighting for what I'm against but it's currently easier. Potential sign-on bonuses, relatively decent pay and benefits (considering living in the barracks=shelter, utilities), and I'd also get to tell people I was in the military (while in America) which in many regards would elevate my image inside America. The income would be a majority savings (likely more so than if I had a regular job) and if I don't need a car of my own, just dropped off on-base, it would be very useful. I read that things like living in the barracks aren't counted as income. Two or three years of service, some sort of veteran status from being in the military, and more savings than I would have abroad puts me in better financial security. I'm leaning with the Navy since it's very unlikely I'd see ground combat. So a base pay around $20,000 in the military would definitely beat a minimum wage job (or even a $14/hr. private sector job) and even a dull $30,000 office job in a majority of states.

I will PM you for details regarding the ESL jobs abroad.
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Re: POLL: Should unemployed American men join the military?

Postby Cornfed » Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:13 am

My advice is to not do it. Tough it out man. I know how hard it is in your position, but you have lots of time to live. Don't disgrace yourself.
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Re: POLL: Should unemployed American men join the military?

Postby onethousandknives » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:48 pm

Tsar wrote:
onethousandknives wrote:No, just start your own business. Only $200 or so for an LLC in most states.


Starting a business would be great but is that realistic for a person with no assets and no capital? Assume the only thing the person has financially on their side is no debt. Also, doesn't an LLC require a board of directors or more than one shareholder? I remember reading something like that.

The military seems like it might be my only option if I don't have anything lined up after the New Year.


LLC does not require a board of directors or shareholders, that's only if you decide to be a publicly traded company.

As far as capital, it doesn't take lots of money for businesses like painting, cleaning, power washing, minor home improvement, etc. If you're up north and can drive a pickup truck, get a pickup with a plow and plow driveways or parking lots. I mean obviously such a business needs more capital than zero dollars, but it's not like you need 50-100k to start a business that will make you some amount more money than you'd get at a McJob paying you $8-10 an hour.

If you're super desperate to "do something" or whatever (probably because some dumbshit parents or adults are saying to "do something with your life" and don't care even if it's detrimental as long as it's something) go straight to the goal. Go WWOOF on a farm, you'll be abroad and get food and shelter and not have to kill people and bankrupt America more, and all it'd cost is a plane ticket.
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Re: POLL: Should unemployed American men join the military?

Postby Array9 » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:49 pm

Tsar wrote:I know that I would in many regards be fighting for what I'm against but it's currently easier. Potential sign-on bonuses, relatively decent pay and benefits (considering living in the barracks=shelter, utilities), and I'd also get to tell people I was in the military (while in America) which in many regards would elevate my image inside America. The income would be a majority savings (likely more so than if I had a regular job) and if I don't need a car of my own, just dropped off on-base, it would be very useful. I read that things like living in the barracks aren't counted as income. Two or three years of service, some sort of veteran status from being in the military, and more savings than I would have abroad puts me in better financial security. I'm leaning with the Navy since it's very unlikely I'd see ground combat. So a base pay around $20,000 in the military would definitely beat a minimum wage job (or even a $14/hr. private sector job) and even a dull $30,000 office job in a majority of states.

I will PM you for details regarding the ESL jobs abroad.


Tsar, as a former Navy Seabee, I would not advise you to go into the armed services at this time. You must understand that once you are an enlisted man in the military, they own you. You have little to no say in things. If they tell you to sweep up and mop the floor, you have to do it. If you are not a member of the good ole boys network, your life in the military could be very short and miserable. There are some benefits for enlisted members but it is not easy. You can PM me if you need more information.

I don't know a lot about you but if I remember correctly, you live somewhere in New England right? If I were in your shoes, I would take a job at a spot like Wendy's and live as frugal as possible. Wendy's pays a decent wage for a fast food joint and they should provide you with a free meal. I know that it will humble you greatly but you have to start somewhere. You are still young and should be able to pull off working two jobs if you want to save money to travel abroad. Security firms are always looking for people so you might want to check there as well. Let us know how you make out.
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Re: POLL: Should unemployed American men join the military?

Postby starchild5 » Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:42 pm

Don't do it..

I'm in India and I was offered an easy way out to work in Indian Army. Some of my friends took the job, the pay, "respect" is higher when everyone around you is Ignorant.

somehow, It just did not feel right, this whole military thing, killing another human being, Back then I did not knew about conspiracy, bankster, Illuminati etc....I just went with my feeling... Not to sound boastful, but its really hard thing to stand by right and make moral judgement when you are born in a third world country. The right thing here is to do wrong....That's why third world countries are so corrupt, there is only few way out doing right things...all options point to evil.

The trick here is to not fall for choices or your life would be better if you opted something else. You never miss an opportunity in life...Its Anglo Elite Psyop...

Don't fall for opportunity, "better life" Psy-ops..

You won't be better as an english teacher or in the navy or own a business. A work never defines you. You are far higher than that, your life is a journey towards evolution ...Sounds New Agy...but that's CIA to muddy the truth some more.

Deep down you feel Military is bad, that's why you still haven't decided and came to post in the forum to get a clear direction. It just doesn't sync with you as a human being...otherwise..you would have joined the Navy already...You don't know your worth....A guy going to the elite defined life is million times backwards for those who stand for the right.

KNOW THAT...Its never easy...The righteous path will be hard...That's where evolution is...Evolution grinds you and changes your DNA itself...If you choose the easier option....You will never evolve and be the same as you were before joining the Navy...

Do we really believe..The elites would give us a life of comfort aka good salary etc if they not taking far more from us? common...Its a trick..Don't fall for the con called "Comfortable - Easier life" ....You will always always loose guaranteed working for the Elites one way or the other...They are incredibly darker than what we are being told. Dig Deeper...You are far more better, greater than joining the Navy.
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Re: POLL: Should unemployed American men join the military?

Postby Moretorque » Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:08 pm

If you want to serve the British Empire, America my country was not supposed to have a standing army because they new. You are just a tool to be used to build a empire and this empire has all the writings on the wall of not being sustainable at all much longer so all the benefits they promise will probably never come to fruitation.
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