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Response to Winston Wu: The Benefits Of Overseas

Postby MJay1978 » Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:08 pm

I found this audio Winston Wu made to be motivating. It's over a 40 minute long audio with a lot of facts and information based on the toxic culture of America and the many toxic problems. This is by far my most favorite audio I've heard from Winston by far.

http://www.happierabroad.com/podcasts/5_benefits_overseas.mp3

Even though I'm a MGTOW now in my own country, I'm still holding onto the dream to escape America and travel to a place where the grass is much greener. Winston did want my thoughts on this and I apologize for the much late response. I got too busy with my own video content. Sure enough, I took the time finally to make a response to Winston Wu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQsehu2Q3jg&feature=gp-n-y&google_comment_id=z13igbezjkifvhkwa04cexnizvmzx5w4vbo

For those of you who are new here, this is all I'm going to tell you. You need to get the hell out of America and go somewhere that is better. The toxic problems and feminism are never going to change here. If anything, I only see things are going to get much worse here, which I see evidence of it. For instance the following.

1. If you type in "Teacher sex" on your browser on Google, look at the images. This alone is a serious growing problem.

2. I'm sure you're familiar with the Jeremy Meeks mugshot post on Facebook. That should speak louder than words.

3. Robin William's death. I still say it's feminism and the justice system that crippled Williams, leading him to commit suicide. The media covered it up, saying it was drug/alcohol abuse alone.

Like I said, for those of you who are new here, work on yourselves and forget about the women here. You need to get the hell out of America.
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Re: Response to Winston Wu: The Benefits Of Overseas

Postby The » Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:15 pm

Look at the amount of people leaving America in droves this year by Renouncing Citizenship...

http://blogs.wsj.com/totalreturn/2014/10/24/more-americans-renounce-citizenship-with-2014-on-pace-for-a-record/?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_yourmoney

Even though the article is mostly financial, (and the first people always leave their home lands for financial reasons)... if it doesn't give you a hint that its time to leave, then nothing will....

America is morally, socially and financially bankrupt...

PS... Look at some of the comments from some of the US "Homelanders" who have no grasp of the situation with FATCA and people, whose financial lives are on the line are forced to renounce....
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Re: Response to Winston Wu: The Benefits Of Overseas

Postby OutWest » Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:42 pm

The wrote:Look at the amount of people leaving America in droves this year by Renouncing Citizenship...

http://blogs.wsj.com/totalreturn/2014/10/24/more-americans-renounce-citizenship-with-2014-on-pace-for-a-record/?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_yourmoney

Even though the article is mostly financial, (and the first people always leave their home lands for financial reasons)... if it doesn't give you a hint that its time to leave, then nothing will....

America is morally, socially and financially bankrupt...

PS... Look at some of the comments from some of the US "Homelanders" who have no grasp of the situation with FATCA and people, whose financial lives are on the line are forced to renounce....


It is only 3000 people this year. In a country of well over 300 million, that is not even a rounding error.
I would think it would be greater, but most are not interested in the loss of freedom or opportunities abroad.
FATCA is totalitarian in scope and a despot's wet dream. Even if you cannot promptly leave the USA, you can
develop your connections to your possible new home and pull the trigger on it when the moment comes.
In the meantime you can develop assets abroad that are obscure.
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Re: Response to Winston Wu: The Benefits Of Overseas

Postby Ghost » Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:23 am

OutWest wrote:
The wrote:Look at the amount of people leaving America in droves this year by Renouncing Citizenship...

http://blogs.wsj.com/totalreturn/2014/10/24/more-americans-renounce-citizenship-with-2014-on-pace-for-a-record/?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_yourmoney

Even though the article is mostly financial, (and the first people always leave their home lands for financial reasons)... if it doesn't give you a hint that its time to leave, then nothing will....

America is morally, socially and financially bankrupt...

PS... Look at some of the comments from some of the US "Homelanders" who have no grasp of the situation with FATCA and people, whose financial lives are on the line are forced to renounce....


It is only 3000 people this year. In a country of well over 300 million, that is not even a rounding error.
I would think it would be greater, but most are not interested in the loss of freedom or opportunities abroad.
FATCA is totalitarian in scope and a despot's wet dream. Even if you cannot promptly leave the USA, you can
develop your connections to your possible new home and pull the trigger on it when the moment comes.
In the meantime you can develop assets abroad that are obscure.


Like marrying a good woman abroad and getting a green card, path to dual citizenship, which is much more possible for the vast majority. It's always interesting to read about wealthy people renouncing citizenship to the U.S., but such an option will be pointless and/or impossible for most of us. The 3000 leaving represent a disproportionate amount of wealth for that number of people I'm sure. And the alarming thing is that means that the daddygov will only makes things worse for everyone else. One can still make $100,000 a year overseas and not pay any to the daddygov. That would be the ideal plan. Have a great yearly tax free income of which none goes to the daddygov, but don't be rich enough that the daddygov tries to make you suffer directly.
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Re: Response to Winston Wu: The Benefits Of Overseas

Postby Jester » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:18 am

OutWest wrote:
It is only 3000 people this year. In a country of well over 300 million, that is not even a rounding error.
I would think it would be greater,....



I read that those figures come from the a published, and reflect only the names of "covered" expats, i.e. the multi-millionaires who have to file an exit-tax tax-return. I may have read that here:
http://www.expatforum.com/expats/canada-expat-forum-expats-living-canada/95306-us-federal-register-final-violation-your-privacy.html

I say multi-millionaires, because the other trigger besides 2 million net worth is 155000 in taxes paid, which I suppose means 500,000 income. And not too many lawyers or other high earners would be leaving the US if they had such a huge income... unless they ALSO had millions in wealth. So to me it is a good approximation to call "covered expats" "multi-millionaires."

Granted, this article seems to say that some folks might not be multi-millionaires, some might just be non-filers or folks with tax problems.
http://crevelingandcreveling.com/blog-list/158-should-american-expats-give-up-their-us-citizenship.html


Anyway my point here is it may NOT be 3000 taxpayers. It MAY be 3000 MULTIMILLIONAIRE taxpayers. There could be 30,000 plain old millionaires and other ne'er-do-wells.

Plus, it takes years to establish first temporary residency, then permanent residency, then citizenship abroad. Those are generally the steps you take before renunciation of US citizenship, (unless you are super-rich and can buy citizenship elsewhere, or already have it). All that takes years.

So that 3000 represents the tip of the iceberg. They would be folks who started the process years ago.



OutWest wrote:
Even if you cannot promptly leave the USA, you can
develop your connections to your possible new home and pull the trigger on it when the moment comes.
In the meantime you can develop assets abroad that are obscure.



Ideas:
-- Bullion in a non-bank Singapore depository
-- A vacation home on the beach in Mexico or the Caribbean (close enough to get some use from it)
-- Income Property anywhere in a non-US wife's name (if you report taxes as a single taxpayer)
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Re: Response to Winston Wu: The Benefits Of Overseas

Postby Winston » Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:29 am

MJay1978,
If you liked that audio recording of mine, you will love this one too. It's an audio recording I did for the New American Dream Radio Show where I list the benefits of getting out of America that are not women/dating related. Check it out at the link below.

http://www.happierabroad.com/podcasts/Reasons_to_Leave_America.mp3

Also, check out my groundbreaking article about the 5 ways your life will be TRANSFORMED abroad. It will give you the big picture of what HA is all about. It's a must read.

http://blog.happierabroad.com/2014/12/5-ways-your-life-will-be-transformed-abroad.html
Check out the latest posts in our blog The Happier Abroaders.

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Re: Response to Winston Wu: The Benefits Of Overseas

Postby Winston » Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:22 am

Hey check this out! MJay just made this awesome video about how RIGHT I am about America's broken culture and its negative attitude women, and why YouTube shut down my HA videos for telling the truth about all this and how men can find better cultures and better female options overseas.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQsehu2Q3jg[/youtube]
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