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Banning disruptive trolls (poll)

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Should we ban Paloatoguy (and other disruptive trolls, for that matter)?

Yes, ASAP
20
80%
No, he's funny
4
16%
Not sure\undecided
1
4%
 
Total votes : 25

Re: Banning disruptive trolls (poll)

Postby Rock » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:51 am

Once in awhile I getta laugh outta this guy. Like on that thread about the model dude who walked around NYC and got harassed, he chimed in that the same thing happens to him all the time and he even had to hire security detail in London lol. He's seems a lot brighter, more prolific, and entertaining than your garden variety troll. And this guy posts some pretty interesting images too. But...my all time favorite disruptive type for entertainment was Odbo. PaloAlto doesn't hold a candle to him. But anyway, he does provide a bit of entertainment sometimes.

Duende, you kinda look silly investing so much energy in arguing with this guy and taking him so seriously if you don't want him around. You know trolls feed of the energy of others. The more you put into the debates, the more you feed him. If everyone ignored him, he would probably wither and die a slow death. Look at the bigger picture, don't be so left brained.
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Re: Banning disruptive trolls (poll)

Postby Ghost » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:59 am

Cornfed wrote:The only reservation I have is that this might be the thin end of the wedge. First he is banned and then before you know it, everyone politically incorrect is a disruptive troll and therefore banned.


Right. HA has no discernment. Banning trolls works in theory, but it requires being able to discern full-blown bullshit artists from people who have unpopular opinions. And HA certainly lacks that, so I have no faith in their abilities to do this without it turning into some PC clusterfuck.

I like the idea of a Trollville type of forum, but the same problem applies. Would be better than outright bans, but it still requires being able to discern.
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Re: Banning disruptive trolls (poll)

Postby Paloaltoguy » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:20 am

Whoa, you people are still talking about me? Lol!!! I click the X on my window and forget about the existence of the website. To me, you're all just a mass of inexhaustible stupidity :lol:
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Re: Banning disruptive trolls (poll)

Postby Cornfed » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:23 am

Paloaltoguy wrote:Whoa, you people are still talking about me? Lol!!! I click the X on my window and forget about the existence of the website. To me, you're all just a mass of inexhaustible stupidity :lol:

Well could you f**k off then please. The only reason you get a response now is because of the existential questions you raise.
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Re: Banning disruptive trolls (poll)

Postby abcdavid01 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:27 am

Bit presumptuous for someone who joined less than a year ago and has less than 1000 posts to call for banning. But in this case I agree, yes, please ban.
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Re: Banning disruptive trolls (poll)

Postby Paloaltoguy » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:38 am

Okay, I'm outta here. See ya!
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Re: Banning disruptive trolls (poll)

Postby Cornfed » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:47 am

Paloaltoguy wrote:Okay, I'm outta here. See ya!

Better bullshitting elsewhere.
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Re: Banning disruptive trolls (poll)

Postby Winston » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:52 am

How about we just put paloaltoguy in the troll board and limit his posting there? That way those who find him entertaining can still read his posts while the rest can just put him on ignore. It sounds like a win-win situation.
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Re: Banning disruptive trolls (poll)

Postby Ghost » Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:00 am

Winston wrote:How about we just put paloaltoguy in the troll board and limit his posting there? That way those who find him entertaining can still read his posts while the rest can just put him on ignore. It sounds like a win-win situation.


Which would be fine, but have discernment and don't just whip it out whenever someone with unpopular opinions posts. They need to exemplify actual trolling behavior repeatedly. I think that would be a good start. This way, you aren't restricting free speech.
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Re: Banning disruptive trolls (poll)

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:10 am

Winston wrote:How about we just put paloaltoguy in the troll board and limit his posting there? That way those who find him entertaining can still read his posts while the rest can just put him on ignore. It sounds like a win-win situation.



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Re: Banning disruptive trolls (poll)

Postby Cornfed » Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:11 am

Winston wrote:How about we just put paloaltoguy in the troll board and limit his posting there? That way those who find him entertaining can still read his posts while the rest can just put him on ignore. It sounds like a win-win situation.

No don't do that, because you would then subject yourself to pressure to put other posters there, and you, being of a relatively weak moral character when it comes to the forum (no offense) would do this, and this would allow government trolls to destroy the forum. He says he is leaving, and that is because the lack of moderation caused him to get his butt kicked. If he leaves, let him leave and take the win.
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Re: Banning disruptive trolls (poll)

Postby publicduende » Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:18 am

Rock wrote:Duende, you kinda look silly investing so much energy in arguing with this guy and taking him so seriously if you don't want him around. You know trolls feed of the energy of others. The more you put into the debates, the more you feed him. If everyone ignored him, he would probably wither and die a slow death. Look at the bigger picture, don't be so left brained.


I don't like arrogant people, braggards, FOS with nothing to show for it, and people who lay gratutitous insults. This guy pushed all them buttons, so elicited my reaction. I just feel pity for him because, like a majority of trolls, he prefers to spend all of his energies posting fantasies than making some of those fantasies come true.

I 100% agree with some other poster who said, on another thread, that it's people like PAG who make you appreciate people like Cornfed who, for all his deranged and racist outlook on life and society, does sound geuinely interested in giving his contribution to this forum, however opinable it might be.
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Re: Banning disruptive trolls (poll)

Postby MarcosZeitola » Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:43 am

The wrote:Typical of MarcosKrapola for wantingto ban the good posters...But a known racist in Cornball gets a pass from you?? Trust me, he dont like your kind either moron....


My kind? And what might my kind be, then? Enlighten me. You also seem to have a very poor understanding of the word "good" and what it means.
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Re: Banning disruptive trolls (poll)

Postby Winston » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:11 am

Ghost wrote:
Winston wrote:How about we just put paloaltoguy in the troll board and limit his posting there? That way those who find him entertaining can still read his posts while the rest can just put him on ignore. It sounds like a win-win situation.


Which would be fine, but have discernment and don't just whip it out whenever someone with unpopular opinions posts. They need to exemplify actual trolling behavior repeatedly. I think that would be a good start. This way, you aren't restricting free speech.


Of course there will be discernment. I am a good judge of character. How should we decide though, who is to go into the troll board and who is to be banned? What's the criteria?

This could complicate things too. I've seen other forums have a troll board which they call "the trash binge" or something like that. They will put posters with unpopular opinions there, who are not really trolls.

Also, having a troll board here could make the forum look kind of ghetto or compromised. Like we have to have a dumping ground to appease the trolls.

Ok well if PaloAltoGuy is gone, then problem solved. If not, maybe we can limit him to a troll board. But I have to figure out how to set that up first.
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Re: Banning disruptive trolls (poll)

Postby Winston » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:31 am

The wrote:Typical of MarcosKrapola for wantingto ban the good posters...But a known racist in Cornball gets a pass from you?? Trust me, he dont like your kind either moron....


You've already received 3 warnings, including one from zboy, about your uncivil behavior in insulting others. Now you've called Marcos a "moron" which is unprovoked. Therefore, you will now be banned for one week. Next time it will probably be permanent.
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