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Are Millenials Lazy?

Postby The » Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:21 pm

A millennial is someone born between 1981 and 2000.....

Simple question.....Are millennial's lazy, soft and unmotivated, unlike the previous generations before them?
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Re: Are Millenials Lazy?

Postby lasttry » Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:31 am

No, they are reacting to their environment, same as previous generations. Also, it's pretty obvious some millenials are very ambitious, think mark zuckerberg and the other technology entrepreneurs.
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Re: Are Millenials Lazy?

Postby Cornfed » Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:39 am

Some have basically given up, which is understandable given the shit sandwich they are being handed. However, in general I think they are prepared to work too hard for too little reward and are therefore vulnerable to exploitation, which is all that evil Western regimes have to offer them. At least, that is the case for the men. The females are useless c**ts in the main.
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Re: Are Millenials Lazy?

Postby Ghost » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:42 am

Generations of people are largely products of the society and culture they grow up in. Some are lazy, others are like Cornfed said, and a rising number are having a change of heart about the world they live in.

What I'm noticing is that success is now being redefined. People are realizing that the American Dream is dead. And furthermore, some of the more astute are seeing that the Dream did not really include freedom. A good job is not going to show up anytime soon. But even in the U.S., you can still work a minimum wage job as a millennial and save up to go traveling. As a citizen of an anglo country, you can go teach English virtually anywhere in the world, an option the vast majority of people on this planet don't have.

I've read books by some of these types of guys who redefine success - 4 Hour Workweek, $100 Startup, Motivation Hacker, etc. A lot of crap in there, too, but one of the gold nuggets you find is that these ideas are doing away with the notion that having a "good job" means success, or that the white picket fence is the goal. When times get bad, some give up. Others struggle and find some success. A few let it all go and follow their dreams, whatever that may mean.

This is how I see the millennial mindset changing - giving up on the idea of a "good job" and following your dream is not being lazy. A lot of millenials live at home because they can't afford to move out, so they have time. If they use that time instead of sitting around venting all the time then they aren't lazy.
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Re: Are Millenials Lazy?

Postby The » Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:18 pm

This is how I see the millennial mindset changing - giving up on the idea of a "good job" and following your dream is not being lazy. A lot of millenials live at home because they can't afford to move out, so they have time. If they use that time instead of sitting around venting all the time then they aren't lazy.


Thats the thing, I know people who are in that age group that.....yeah they may have given up the finding a "good job" so to speak BUT have not progressed into anything better in years....and for some reason they have no plans on doing so.....

Even when I broach the idea of going overseas for a change, the idea is dismissed completely....
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Re: Are Millenials Lazy?

Postby Ghost » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:07 am

The wrote:
This is how I see the millennial mindset changing - giving up on the idea of a "good job" and following your dream is not being lazy. A lot of millenials live at home because they can't afford to move out, so they have time. If they use that time instead of sitting around venting all the time then they aren't lazy.


Thats the thing, I know people who are in that age group that.....yeah they may have given up the finding a "good job" so to speak BUT have not progressed into anything better in years....and for some reason they have no plans on doing so.....

Even when I broach the idea of going overseas for a change, the idea is dismissed completely....


When those types post on here, it is frustrating because they are just wasting time - the primary resource they have lots of. If they are not red pill knowledgeable and comprise the general manginal population, I say it's a good thing then that they are lazy. Don't want those fuckers going abroad, not that most ever would.
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Re: Are Millenials Lazy?

Postby Jester » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:43 am

I have seen millennials start a job (working for me) with high expectations, working very hard to prove themselves, then get a bad attitude when recognition, promotion and opportunity did not occur in the first few weeks. Three different people. All knew me or were introduced by someone. Don't know if its a pattern or not. But it could be that they muster the determination to put up with a tough situation short-term, only realizing later that this "situation" is actually the JOB, and not just a level of a video game that they can master and move beyond. The possible failings I see are impatience and vanity, not laziness.

But I do agree with all the other comments above. It is a tough situation. And being impatient and moving on when you realize a job is wrong for you COULD be the right move.

But... I think at least two of those three repeated the pattern elsewhere.

OTOH I know four millennials, all college graduates with no advanced degrees, who have done well, and carved out niches for themselves through diligence and patience. One of them is self-employed, and another works from home.
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Re: Are Millenials Lazy?

Postby eurobrat » Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:23 pm

Jester wrote:I have seen millennials start a job (working for me) with high expectations, working very hard to prove themselves, then get a bad attitude when recognition, promotion and opportunity did not occur in the first few weeks. Three different people. All knew me or were introduced by someone. Don't know if its a pattern or not. But it could be that they muster the determination to put up with a tough situation short-term, only realizing later that this "situation" is actually the JOB, and not just a level of a video game that they can master and move beyond. The possible failings I see are impatience and vanity, not laziness.

But I do agree with all the other comments above. It is a tough situation. And being impatient and moving on when you realize a job is wrong for you COULD be the right move.

But... I think at least two of those three repeated the pattern elsewhere.

OTOH I know four millennials, all college graduates with no advanced degrees, who have done well, and carved out niches for themselves through diligence and patience. One of them is self-employed, and another works from home.


I think it's just high expectations. Americans have high expectations.
I have had both great paying jobs $60-70k/year and I have worked the bottom of the line bullshit jobs.

But I think we can all agree, it's not as easy as it used to be.
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Re: Are Millenials Lazy?

Postby Ghost » Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:26 pm

Jester wrote:I have seen millennials start a job (working for me) with high expectations, working very hard to prove themselves, then get a bad attitude when recognition, promotion and opportunity did not occur in the first few weeks. Three different people. All knew me or were introduced by someone. Don't know if its a pattern or not. But it could be that they muster the determination to put up with a tough situation short-term, only realizing later that this "situation" is actually the JOB, and not just a level of a video game that they can master and move beyond. The possible failings I see are impatience and vanity, not laziness.

But I do agree with all the other comments above. It is a tough situation. And being impatient and moving on when you realize a job is wrong for you COULD be the right move.

But... I think at least two of those three repeated the pattern elsewhere.

OTOH I know four millennials, all college graduates with no advanced degrees, who have done well, and carved out niches for themselves through diligence and patience. One of them is self-employed, and another works from home.


The difference these days being that if the job isn't right for you, it's either stick with it because you can't get another decent-paying gig, or leave it and fall back into poverty/moving back in with your parents.

Though I agree with you about millennials not being able to handle certain jobs. I know I couldn't. If a job was high-paying but full of bullshit and/or extremely stressful, then I have no doubt I would wash out fast. But then again, I've been abroad and am trying to build a life outside the U.S., so seeing what I've seen, living what I've lived, I could never do the 9-5 in corporate job in the U.S.
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Re: Are Millenials Lazy?

Postby eurobrat » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:40 pm

Ghost wrote:
Jester wrote:I have seen millennials start a job (working for me) with high expectations, working very hard to prove themselves, then get a bad attitude when recognition, promotion and opportunity did not occur in the first few weeks. Three different people. All knew me or were introduced by someone. Don't know if its a pattern or not. But it could be that they muster the determination to put up with a tough situation short-term, only realizing later that this "situation" is actually the JOB, and not just a level of a video game that they can master and move beyond. The possible failings I see are impatience and vanity, not laziness.

But I do agree with all the other comments above. It is a tough situation. And being impatient and moving on when you realize a job is wrong for you COULD be the right move.

But... I think at least two of those three repeated the pattern elsewhere.

OTOH I know four millennials, all college graduates with no advanced degrees, who have done well, and carved out niches for themselves through diligence and patience. One of them is self-employed, and another works from home.


The difference these days being that if the job isn't right for you, it's either stick with it because you can't get another decent-paying gig, or leave it and fall back into poverty/moving back in with your parents.

Though I agree with you about millennials not being able to handle certain jobs. I know I couldn't. If a job was high-paying but full of bullshit and/or extremely stressful, then I have no doubt I would wash out fast. But then again, I've been abroad and am trying to build a life outside the U.S., so seeing what I've seen, living what I've lived, I could never do the 9-5 in corporate job in the U.S.


The problem these days is American companies lie and live by bait and switch tactics. They lie in the job postings, the interview and even when they make job offers.
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Re: Are Millenials Lazy?

Postby Moretorque » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:56 pm

Why bother to work if you have no property rights in the long run, just look what is going on in the housing mortgage industry. When I was born you could pay your spread off in no time flat and all you did was sign some paper work and you were in a nice home to have a family.

Today they get buried in debt by college before they even get a mortgage and no jobs to boot.

I am surprised they have not revolted yet, I think the fluoride may be working wonders on our systems.
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Re: Are Millenials Lazy?

Postby Ghost » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:14 pm

Moretorque wrote:Why bother to work if you have no property rights in the long run, just look what is going on in the housing mortgage industry. When I was born you could pay your spread off in no time flat and all you did was sign some paper work and you were in a nice home to have a family.

Today they get buried in debt by college before they even get a mortgage and no jobs to boot.

I am surprised they have not revolted yet, I think the fluoride may be working wonders on our systems.


Because things are too comfortable. Even in this steeply declining America, Americans still have a high level of comfort. And that means the revolution will not be happening anytime soon. Little sparks here and there, but most Americans still don't give a shit and the rulers have a lot of experience in putting those down.
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Re: Are Millenials Lazy?

Postby The » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:27 pm

Ghost wrote:
Moretorque wrote:Why bother to work if you have no property rights in the long run, just look what is going on in the housing mortgage industry. When I was born you could pay your spread off in no time flat and all you did was sign some paper work and you were in a nice home to have a family.

Today they get buried in debt by college before they even get a mortgage and no jobs to boot.

I am surprised they have not revolted yet, I think the fluoride may be working wonders on our systems.


Because things are too comfortable. Even in this steeply declining America, Americans still have a high level of comfort. And that means the revolution will not be happening anytime soon. Little sparks here and there, but most Americans still don't give a shit and the rulers have a lot of experience in putting those down.


The only way Americans would revolt is if the food supply runs low...And a starving man will do anything (even kill) to eat!.....anything short of that, things will remain the same....

EXAMPLE: AMERICAN BLACKOUT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYoXxVnTePA
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Re: Are Millenials Lazy?

Postby Moretorque » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:33 am

Ghost wrote:
Moretorque wrote:Why bother to work if you have no property rights in the long run, just look what is going on in the housing mortgage industry. When I was born you could pay your spread off in no time flat and all you did was sign some paper work and you were in a nice home to have a family.

Today they get buried in debt by college before they even get a mortgage and no jobs to boot.

I am surprised they have not revolted yet, I think the fluoride may be working wonders on our systems.


Because things are too comfortable. Even in this steeply declining America, Americans still have a high level of comfort. And that means the revolution will not be happening anytime soon. Little sparks here and there, but most Americans still don't give a shit and the rulers have a lot of experience in putting those down.


Ghost that post on Deagle.com may be real and our rulers have a plan to 86 about 250 million of us in one swoop. I am telling you all they have to do to make UN 21 type reduced #'s for managing the herd is to crash the credit system and shut oil imports off and most Americans will be dead.
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Re: Are Millenials Lazy?

Postby onethousandknives » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:21 pm

Moretorque wrote:
Ghost wrote:
Moretorque wrote:Why bother to work if you have no property rights in the long run, just look what is going on in the housing mortgage industry. When I was born you could pay your spread off in no time flat and all you did was sign some paper work and you were in a nice home to have a family.

Today they get buried in debt by college before they even get a mortgage and no jobs to boot.

I am surprised they have not revolted yet, I think the fluoride may be working wonders on our systems.


Because things are too comfortable. Even in this steeply declining America, Americans still have a high level of comfort. And that means the revolution will not be happening anytime soon. Little sparks here and there, but most Americans still don't give a shit and the rulers have a lot of experience in putting those down.


Ghost that post on Deagle.com may be real and our rulers have a plan to 86 about 250 million of us in one swoop. I am telling you all they have to do to make UN 21 type reduced #'s for managing the herd is to crash the credit system and shut oil imports off and most Americans will be dead.


The owner of deagel.com actually issued a statement about it.

There have been many questions about the countries forecast specially the one focusing on the United States of America (USA). They won't be answered one by one but below you can find some explanation, thoughts and reflections. We are going to keep this as short as possible.

The majority of the economic and demographic data used in the making of the forecasts is widely available by institutions such as the CIA, IMF, UN, USG, etc. You can see the most relevant data at every single country's page. There is a tiny part of data coming from a variety of shadow sources such as Internet gurus, unsigned reports and others. But all these sources are from the internet and are of public domain for at least a minority. For example, several years ago Dagong, the Chinese ratings agency, published a report analyzing the physical economy of the States comparing it with those of China, Germany and Japan. The conclusion was that the US GDP was something between $5 to $10 trillion instead of $15 trillion as officially reported by the USG. We assume that the official data, especially economic, released by governments is fake, cooked or distorted in some degree. Historically it is well known that the former Soviet Union was making up fake statistics years before its collapse. Western as well as other countries are making up their numbers today to conceal their real state of affairs. We are sure that many people out there can find government statistics in their own countries that by their own personal experience are hard to believe or are so optimistic that may belong to a different country.

Despite the numeric data "quantity" there is a "quality" model which has not a direct translation into numeric data. The 2014 strain of Ebola has a death rate of 50-60% but try to imagine what would happen if there is a pandemic of Ebola with hundreds of thousands or millions infected with the virus. So far the few cases of Ebola-infected people have "enjoyed" intensive healthcare with anti-viral and breathing assistance but above all with abundant human support by Physicians and nurses. In a pandemic scenario that kind of healthcare won't be available for the overwhelming number of infected leading to a dramatic increase of the death rate due to the lack of proper healthcare. The "quality" factor is that the death rate could increase to 80-90% in a pandemic scenario from the stated 50-60% rate. The figure itself is not important what is relevant is the fact that the scenario can evolve beyond the initial conditions from a 50% death toll to more than 90%. By the way, no pandemic or nuclear war is included in the forecast.

The key element to understand the process that the USA will enter in the upcoming decade is migration. In the past, specially in the 20th century, the key factor that allowed the USA to rise to its colossus status was immigration with the benefits of a demographic expansion supporting the credit expansion and the brain drain from the rest of the world benefiting the States. The collapse of the Western financial system will wipe out the standard of living of its population while ending ponzi schemes such as the stock exchange and the pension funds. The population will be hit so badly by a full array of bubbles and ponzi schemes that the migration engine will start to work in reverse accelerating itself due to ripple effects thus leading to the demise of the States. This unseen situation for the States will develop itself in a cascade pattern with unprecedented and devastating effects for the economy. Jobs offshoring will surely end with many American Corporations relocating overseas thus becoming foreign Corporations!!!! We see a significant part of the American population migrating to Latin America and Asia while migration to Europe - suffering a similar illness - won't be relevant. Nevertheless the death toll will be horrible. Take into account that the Soviet Union's population was poorer than the Americans nowadays or even then. The ex-Soviets suffered during the following struggle in the 1990s with a significant death toll and the loss of national pride. Might we say "Twice the pride, double the fall"? Nope. The American standard of living is one of the highest, far more than double of the Soviets while having added a services economy that will be gone along with the financial system. When pensioners see their retirement disappear in front of their eyes and there are no servicing jobs you can imagine what is going to happen next. At least younger people can migrate. Never in human history were so many elders among the population. In past centuries people were lucky to get to their 30s or 40s. The American downfall is set to be far worse than the Soviet Union's one. A confluence of crisis with a devastating result.

The Demographic crisis in the former Soviet Union countries has extended for over two decades, if we accept that it ended early in this decade (2010s). The demographic crisis will hit the World in the near future and is projected to last between three and eight decades more or less depending on technological breakthrough and environmental issues. The aftermath is more likely a frozen picture with the population numbers staying the same for a very, very long period of time. The countries forecast population numbers do reflect birth/deaths but also migratory movements. Many countries are going to increase their gross population due to immigration while their native population may shrink.

Over the past two thousand years we have witnessed the Western civilization built around the Mediterranean Sea shifting to Northern Europe and then by the mid 20th century shifting to an Atlantic axis to finally get centered into the States in the past 30 years. The next move will see the civilization being centered in Asia with Russia and China on top. Historically a change in the economic paradigm has resulted in a death toll that is rarely highlighted by mainstream historians. When the transition from rural areas to large cities happened in Europe many people unable to accept the new paradigm killed themselves. They killed themselves by a psychological factor. This is not mainstream but it is true. A new crisis joins old, well known patterns with new ones.

Sorry to disappoint many of you with our forecast. It is getting worse and worse every year since the beginning of the pre-crisis in 2007. It is already said that this website is non-profit, built on spare time and we provide our information and services AS IS without further explanations and/or guarantees. We are not linked to any government in any way, shape or form. We are not a death or satanic cult or arms dealers as some BS is floating around the internet on this topic. Take into account that the forecast is nothing more than a model whether flawed or correct. It is not God's word or a magic device that allows to foresee the future.

Sunday, October 26th, 2014


Basically, the owner of Deagel.com says happierabroad will be mainstream by then.
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