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Evolution Debunked - A Total Lie and Impossibility

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Re: Evolution Debunked

Postby Ghost » Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:13 pm

Well even a long time ago the issue to me seemed to be not whether or not evolution happens, but whether or not macro-evolution is true, which would be not only changing species but changing forms over huge periods of time. And of course even more of an issue than that is whether or not abiogenesis is possible. But it's never been proven. Anyway, evolution happens. It's more a matter of scale. But even macro-evolution does not imply there is no God. And funny how the creation story in lots of ways lines up with an evolutionary history, unless you take it literally instead of as an allegory.
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Re: Evolution Debunked

Postby Adama » Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:34 pm

Micro-evolution is also a lie.

Bacteria adapt to antibiotics. True. But bacteria are still bacteria. Macro.

Bacteria adapt by losing information. They do not adapt by changing, updating or adding new information or protection. The ones that survive are simply the ones which were defective, but that defect becomes the norm. Micro.
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Re: Evolution Debunked

Postby Winston » Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:32 pm

I heard another great reason and logical argument about why human beings could NOT have emerged from nature or a godless evolution process alone. It goes like this:

Everything created by nature is always in harmony with nature, from plants and insects and bacteria, to animals. Nothing created by nature plunders and desecrates Mother Nature. Mankind is the only exception. Man destroys nature, plunders it, and builds artificial structures and cities over it. Therefore, mankind could not have emerged from nature alone. Man must have come from an outside force. Either that, or mankind was manipulated by an outside force so that its nature and consciousness is fundamentally different from all the rest of the life forms in nature. Remember that mankind is different from other animals in many ways. One difference is that mankind is capable of evil, cruelty and unnecessary killing and destruction, whereas all other animals and creatures created by nature are not, but instead are in harmony with nature. Something must have placed such evil traits into mankind, making humans different from the rest of nature and its offspring.

Therefore, this is a very logical argument that mankind could not have come from nature alone. Think about it. It makes perfect sense and cannot be denied. It's an inescapable conclusion.

Furthermore, mankind's genes are different from all other life forms on earth because humans have 95 percent junk DNA, which no other animal has. Therefore, the DNA of humans appear to be a hybrid of earthly primate genes and genes of unknown origin (extraterrestrial?). This again is solid physical evidence that mankind did not emerge from earthly nature alone.

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Re: Evolution Debunked

Postby Moretorque » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:14 pm

Mr. Wu the ape learned to develope tools and this what you get when you graft an ape with technology.
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Re: Evolution Debunked

Postby Farmer308 » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:56 pm

jamesbond wrote: There are a lot of holes in the theory of evolution, that is why it is just called a 'theory.'


Uh, wow! Just WOW! This comment reveals a depth of scientific ignorance that is astounding!
A theory is something with very strong evidence to support it. Something that can be shown to be true over and over again.
If it didn't have very strong evidence to support it, it would be a hypothesis.
For example you may have heard of germ therory. Germs, that is bacteria, can he readily observed with a simple microscope. In addition we can easily observe the effects of bacteria, thus ot has risen to the level of a theory.
Evolution is called a theory because there is overwhelming and strong evidence to support it.
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Re: Evolution Debunked

Postby Farmer308 » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:59 pm

The video is obviously meant to pander to the ignorant. I think it's irresponsible to post these kinds of silly and false videos here as the ignorant are easily fooled.
We conservatives are interested in truth, facts and critical thinking and reject revisionist history.
This is nothing more than liberal propaganda.
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Re: Evolution Debunked

Postby Blue Murder » Fri Nov 13, 2015 12:26 am

Farmer308 wrote:We conservatives are interested in truth, facts and critical thinking and reject revisionist history.

Surely you don't mean the right-wing ideopolitical group that believes everything wrong with the world is because god is punishing the "godless liberals". Surely the word 'conservative' doesn't mean what you think it means. You seem to have that confused with libertarians.
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Re: Evolution Debunked

Postby Farmer308 » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:01 am

Blue Murder wrote:
Farmer308 wrote:We conservatives are interested in truth, facts and critical thinking and reject revisionist history.

Surely you don't mean the right-wing ideopolitical group that believes everything wrong with the world is because god is punishing the "godless liberals". Surely the word 'conservative' doesn't mean what you think it means. You seem to have that confused with libertarians.


As a conservative I am well aware of what it means to be a conservative.
Conservatives value honesty, critical thinking, personal liberty, and personal responsibility among other things.
Whoever you are talking about certainly are not actually conservatives.
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Re: Evolution Debunked

Postby Blue Murder » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:15 am

Farmer308 wrote:As a conservative I am well aware of what it means to be a conservative. Conservatives value honesty, critical thinking, personal liberty, and personal responsibility among other things. Whoever you are talking about certainly are not actually conservatives.

Actually, they do not. Those are things libertarians and other "fringe groups" value. Allow me to summarise all three parties/ideologies in a nutshell.

Liberals: Ban guns, increase welfare (for the thugs, losers and drugies), legalise marijuana, more taxes (for the rich), and more roads!
Conservatives: Increase welfare (for the banks and corporations), turn the abysmal failure that is the drug war up to 11, more war, more taxes (for the 99%), more force-fed religion, and more roads!
Libertarians: Guns for law-abiding citizens, less welfare (for everyone), legalise marijuana (but don't save addicts from the consequences of their actions), taxes for the services you use (fire, EMT, police), we'll make our own roads without your help!

To be frank, if you all thought like libertarians, you wouldn't treat them with the same scorn as the liberals do. The only credit you conservatives get is that it's easier for a libertarian to get on the conservative note. No need to thank me.
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Re: Evolution Debunked

Postby Farmer308 » Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:07 am

Blue Murder wrote:
Farmer308 wrote:As a conservative I am well aware of what it means to be a conservative. Conservatives value honesty, critical thinking, personal liberty, and personal responsibility among other things. Whoever you are talking about certainly are not actually conservatives.

Actually, they do not. Those are things libertarians and other "fringe groups" value. Allow me to summarise all three parties/ideologies in a nutshell.

Liberals: Ban guns, increase welfare (for the thugs, losers and drugies), legalise marijuana, more taxes (for the rich), and more roads!
Conservatives: Increase welfare (for the banks and corporations), turn the abysmal failure that is the drug war up to 11, more war, more taxes (for the 99%), more force-fed religion, and more roads!
Libertarians: Guns for law-abiding citizens, less welfare (for everyone), legalise marijuana (but don't save addicts from the consequences of their actions), taxes for the services you use (fire, EMT, police), we'll make our own roads without your help!

To be frank, if you all thought like libertarians, you wouldn't treat them with the same scorn as the liberals do. The only credit you conservatives get is that it's easier for a libertarian to get on the conservative note. No need to thank me.


(shrug) I guess if you see everything through a narrow American point of view.
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Re: Evolution Debunked

Postby Farmer308 » Fri Nov 13, 2015 3:07 pm

Blue Murder wrote:Actually, they do not. Those are things libertarians and other "fringe groups" value. Allow me to summarise all three parties/ideologies in a nutshell.

Liberals: Ban guns, increase welfare (for the thugs, losers and drugies), legalise marijuana, more taxes (for the rich), and more roads!
Conservatives: Increase welfare (for the banks and corporations), turn the abysmal failure that is the drug war up to 11, more war, more taxes (for the 99%), more force-fed religion, and more roads!
Libertarians: Guns for law-abiding citizens, less welfare (for everyone), legalise marijuana (but don't save addicts from the consequences of their actions), taxes for the services you use (fire, EMT, police), we'll make our own roads without your help!

To be frank, if you all thought like libertarians, you wouldn't treat them with the same scorn as the liberals do. The only credit you conservatives get is that it's easier for a libertarian to get on the conservative note. No need to thank me.


None of the issues you mentioned are even real issues in the more advanced parts of the world. I realize that America, and many second world coubtries, continue to struggle with some of these issues. They seldom occur to me.
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Re: Evolution Debunked

Postby Adama » Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:26 pm

Farmer308 wrote:
jamesbond wrote: There are a lot of holes in the theory of evolution, that is why it is just called a 'theory.'


Uh, wow! Just WOW! This comment reveals a depth of scientific ignorance that is astounding!
A theory is something with very strong evidence to support it. Something that can be shown to be true over and over again.
If it didn't have very strong evidence to support it, it would be a hypothesis.
For example you may have heard of germ therory. Germs, that is bacteria, can he readily observed with a simple microscope. In addition we can easily observe the effects of bacteria, thus ot has risen to the level of a theory.
Evolution is called a theory because there is overwhelming and strong evidence to support it.


Yet this man cited evidence for the germ theory of disease but not for evolution.
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Re: Evolution Debunked

Postby Farmer308 » Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:47 pm

Adama wrote:


Yet this man cited evidence for the germ theory of disease but not for evolution.[/quote]

Uh, no I didn't cite any evidence for germ therory. My point was not to defend evolution, but to educate the scientificly illiterate about what a therory is and what it means.
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Re: Evolution Debunked

Postby Blue Murder » Fri Nov 13, 2015 5:16 pm

Farmer308 wrote:(shrug) I guess if you see everything through a narrow American point of view.

(shrug) I guess if you see everything through a narrow Kiwi point of view. I'm not even American you doink. Try again.
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Re: Evolution Debunked

Postby Adama » Fri Nov 13, 2015 5:23 pm

Farmer308 wrote:


Uh, no I didn't cite any evidence for germ therory. My point was not to defend evolution, but to educate the scientificly illiterate about what a therory is and what it means.


Fine then doc, by your own admission, you are just full of air. Nothing means anything. Let's not pretend that evolution has evidence to back it. Nobody can remotely cite any evidence to support it, except moths which changed color and the fact that bacteria resist antibiotics, neither of which is a change over time into a new type of organism, nor does either imply that is possible. Evolution can not be proven or even observed, because the theory states that it takes millions of years for one species to evolve into another. Therefore it isnt science, because it can not be observed. It is simply a belief.
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