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Most Men Do Not Deserve A Marriageable Woman (ROK)

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Most Men Do Not Deserve A Marriageable Woman (ROK)

Postby The » Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:06 am

INTERESTING READ FOR YOU FUCKERS! IM SURE MR. MANGINA WOULD AGREE... :D :D :lol:

http://www.returnofkings.com/49257/most-men-do-not-deserve-a-marriageable-woman

Merry Christmas. This one’s going to sting.

Here in the manosphere, we are often accused of chauvinism, writing as though women ruined society and men are fantastic at everything. People moan about how badly they want a good girl but just cannot find a viable candidate. Well, let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Who said you deserved one yourself?

The cold reality is that the modern American man is not much better than the modern American woman. If you really believe that patriarchy is the natural order of things, then realize that feminism only exists because men allowed it. Let that sink in. You are the ones that create the monster of the modern western woman. You complain about how terrible the modern western woman is, but you are the ones that permit them to be this way.

It’s Your Fault

You can go on the internet and complain like there is no hope, but feminism would end in a generation if men started acting like they had a dick in their pants. You think most women really want to be ball-cutting, independent sluts? Women have no idea what they really want. Deep down they all have a Disney princess fantasy, and the average nubile co-ed would gladly drop out of college if she found a man who actually made her happy.

Women want to possessed by a man. It is in their nature to be unable to articulate what they really want, but frankly it should be obvious to the menfolk who by nature are expected to lead. If American Jane can be manipulated by faceless propaganda, how much more so by a man whom she is absolutely in love with and could not imagine her life without?

Shakespeare’s Taming of the Shrew has been loved for generations because it gives hope to both sexes. Petruchio was greedy and selfish, and Katherine was ugly and had a terrible personality, but by the end of it all, they had both found a deeper appreciation for each other than any of the other characters who were acting on their passions (Lucentio) or desperation (Hortensio).

Not only did they fall deeply in love with each other, but they finally gained respect from their peers. Think about it: Katherine, the most miserable harpy in English literature, was admired, lauded, and radically happy after spending only a few days with the first man she ever met who didn’t try to coddle or appease her.
It Isn’t Hard

The manosphere shouldn’t even have to exist. Getting a girlfriend is not hard: you just ask girls out, and eventually one of them says yes. And if she doesn’t work out, then you move on, because she’s just a girl and they make plenty of those. Why do you need an elaborate network of websites to teach you what is obvious? All you need to know is, “Girls like guys who are confident and charismatic.” You do not even need a real job anymore, considering how many millennials are working in retail well into their twenties.

Girls want to be asked out, and they want to have sex, just like the normal people. Get to know a girl for five minutes and then ask if you can take her out sometime. With even the most awkward game, you’ll get a date maybe 10% of the time.

By the age of 20, if you have not figured out that there is something deeply warped about the way society today mates, then it is your own fault if you can’t get laid or if you find yourself in a miserable relationship. Even if you cannot figure out what exactly is wrong, you should sense that something is toxic about it. Everybody who has been married is either divorced or miserable. So if you do literally anything else, the worst case scenario is that you will have just as much failure.

And even if a girl has personality flaws, they can often be conditioned out. Remember that at heart they are looking for you to guide them. If she has a pissy fit over something small, walk away and don’t return until she begs. And once she begs, graciously give her that second chance she so desires. Communicate that you do not need her but may enjoy her if she behaves.

Make her work. Make her want to be feminine. Women show so little respect to men because they realize that most men will take whatever they can get. That is to say, men no longer demand respect. If you really are the high-status man every woman masturbates to in whatever Hollywood vomit romcom is currently in theaters, if you really are that high-status man, then she will realize that she cannot be insane if she is to obtain the man of her dreams.

Communication

Show just, like, a little confidence and communication and see the miracles it will accomplish. “Dear, when you cut your hair short, it makes you look like a man. Don’t you want to be able to really turn me on?” This is just one of any number of negative traits, but the same thing applies to fat girls, which is why I’ll date them if they have other redeeming qualities.

When you finally confront your girl about her dumpy looks or character traits, likely your voice will be quivery when you say it, but that is your fault for not having the conversation at the beginning of the relationship. Now that you have waited a year in, she will rant and rave at not getting what she wants for once. Say nothing and look her dead in the eye. When she finishes, repeat exactly what you said both gently and firmly at the same time. If she refuses to change, then dump her then and there.

If she then apologizes and begs for you to take her back, then do so, because now you have seen that she is willing to admit to her mistakes. Finally you have shown some actual masculinity, and you have increased your value enough to make her want to increase her value. And if she does not apologize and make the necessary changes, then it was best to get rid of her sooner than later. Some girls are so damaged that no amount of conditioning can fix them.

Sure, the rare girl with humility may be…well, rare, but you cannot just sit around and hope she falls into your lap. If you want the ever-elusive marital bliss, you have got to approach it like a part-time job. If you are lazy in your pursuits, then you will only get women who are lazy in their commitments. Most people who are divorced either do not know how to pick a wife or do not know how to manage a woman after he has gotten her.

And when your wife left you, did you wish her well? Perhaps buy her kitchen appliances to help her in her new found independence? If she threatens divorce, laugh her down and remind her that no one wants to marry a woman who is divorced, a mother, or over 30 (she is likely all three). Then walk out of the room still chuckling before she can elicit sympathy.

Do not look back or check back in. Crush her false sense of self-esteem and make her realize how much she needs you. It’s not like you have anything to lose, and at any rate women rarely leave a man because he doesn’t show her enough respect. Maybe send her statistics about how children of divorce grow up to be dysfunctional. Granted, I cannot guarantee that she will stay with you, but it’s certainly more effective than begging and bargaining. Even when your wife is leaving, you still bow down and kiss the feet of the tyrant.

You’re Just As Hedonistic

And of course you can claim that all women today are whores, but that is not true either. There are many women who still have a sense of dignity and only give away their sex selectively, since that is what women naturally want to do. True, there are not many virgins outside of the freshmen at Christian colleges in the southern states, but that does not mean that every woman allows herself to be the town bicycle. Maybe the reason you think every single Western girl is a tramp is because you keep searching for girls on ladies night in bars. Go volunteer for a boring non-profit that makes for a bad photo shoot, and you will be more likely to find the wife you are looking for.

Contrary to popular myth, feminism did not invent the slut. Men even have always had a way to get their rocks off before settling down. For example, the samba in Brazil provided a context to meet easy women long before the 1960s.

The famed foreign women of Red Pill lore, and the mothers of many men’s children.

“You can’t find a wife in a brothel,” as my grandfather always said, and it was as true when he was a child as it is today. The world’s oldest profession is nothing new, but today they get paid in martinis instead of cash. And who buys them the martinis? You do. At least the old-style whore knew what she was getting from the deal, but you are encouraging Jane Slut to continue sucking resources from men and pressuring other women to do the same.

You rant about how lustful women are, but how much better are you yourself? All you care about is increasing your notch count no matter what the consequences. You sleep with fat girls, you sleep with career-obsessed women, you sleep with androgynous women, and then you wonder why there are so many of them around.

Quit being an enabler. Let them know that you only validate feminine women, and the fatties and Hillarys will force themselves to change. There is a reason that gluttony—and hence lust—is a sin in every major world religion. Everyone wants to get laid in a way that isn’t desperate and miserable, so put a higher value on your sex. It’s not like you are even having a good time seducing them, considering how much you complain about them. If you feed the geese, they are only going to breed and shit everywhere. Offensive, yes, but the manosphere does not exist to affirm your ego and sense of irreproachability.

Furthermore, do you have any real marketable skills? You say you want a stay-at-home wife, but what have you accomplished to provide that? Laziness is also a sin in most world religions, so instead of living in an apartment with your Call of Duty buddies “because the economy is just that bad,” spend a year in vocational school and learn a trade.

Yes, your family will look down on you because “you are so smart and have so much potential, and you’re going to spend it building houses?” f**k that sideways. This isn’t the 1950s, and most four-year degrees will get you exactly nothing. Don’t participate in the madman credentialism game your parents’ generation created. Forget about finding the job of your dreams and focus on finding a skill you can bond with. Maybe you will marry, or maybe you will decide to milk the player lifestyle as long as you can, but at least you will be able to afford to live autonomously.

Final Thoughts

So quit your entitlement. I was red-tinted purple pill before I ever came across the manosphere and figured I was alone. Sure, some of the material on these sites is very cerebral and takes years to synthesize, but most of it is garnered through plain observation or natural consequences. You’ve got a dick in your pants, so go make the world you want for yourself.

Become the high-status man who can make women want to change, learn a (real) skill, and buy the house with the white picket fence. Or if you want to play the field forever and never get married, then drop your pretentiousness anyway. Women will not suddenly put away their destructive choices by their own volition.


ANY THOUGHTS CLOWNS? :lol: :lol:
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Re: Most Men Do Not Deserve A Marriageable Woman (ROK)

Postby Anatol » Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:17 am

Hello,

[-} It's very true ~ feminism would end world-wide not within a generation like this article states ~ but within 24 HOURS...........if all men simply acted like normal males again.
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Re: Most Men Do Not Deserve A Marriageable Woman (ROK)

Postby Cornfed » Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:29 am

Obviously they are speaking for themselves.
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Re: Most Men Do Not Deserve A Marriageable Woman (ROK)

Postby The » Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:41 am

The manosphere shouldn’t even have to exist. Getting a girlfriend is not hard: you just ask girls out, and eventually one of them says yes. And if she doesn’t work out, then you move on, because she’s just a girl and they make plenty of those.


Basically what I got from the article....
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Re: Most Men Do Not Deserve A Marriageable Woman (ROK)

Postby Signet » Wed Dec 31, 2014 8:52 am

Sort of true. Also sort of clickbait. ROK occasionally does have good articles, enough that I check them periodically, but it also has a lot of pointless, backpatting garbage, so while it's not surprising that they'd run an article of this type (controversy=clicks) during a time of the year when people are particularly lonely, it's kind of funny.

Having a database of tips, or theories, or observations, is not bad in and of itself. It becomes bad when the experience of reading the website itself becomes the catharsis of the target audience. Well, not bad to the owners of ROK or similar sites, but bad to the target audience. This comes in two main varieties: "I don't need to go and ask a girl out, or work to move elsewhere, I can just read these guides and fantasize, or endlessly read articles about how bad feminists are" and "I will TOTALLY apply the things I'm reading/learning in the real world, I just need to know a little bit more". If people used the tips to go out and work them in the real world, not only would the majority of the manosphere not exist, but places like Return of Kings would receive nearly zero traffic. But hey, maybe one of these bootstraps articles is exactly what some people need.

I'm sure this site is host to some of that as well. On a website called happierabroad, dressed up to the nines in reasoning and imagery and encouraging slogans focused on finding happiness in other cultures where you are appreciated (or at least treated/able to live better), at least a fair portion of the people reading it not only will never actually travel abroad, but never even truly intend to. It's very easy to be comfortable in familiarity, even if that familiarity is misery. We're probably all guilty of it on some level, or in some area of our lives (I know I certainly am). The ability to overcome the inertia is what separates...well, the wheat from the chaff, I guess.
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Re: Most Men Do Not Deserve A Marriageable Woman (ROK)

Postby Ghost » Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:26 pm

The only good point is that feminism would indeed end overnight if men formed up and overthrew the feminist regime. Other than that, obvious click-bait title is obvious.
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Re: Most Men Do Not Deserve A Marriageable Woman (ROK)

Postby The » Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:16 am

Well most modern American men wont do jack shit...They just let it collapse without 'em....MGTOW
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Re: Most Men Do Not Deserve A Marriageable Woman (ROK)

Postby Hero » Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:57 am

Ghost wrote:The only good point is that feminism would indeed end overnight if men formed up and overthrew the feminist regime. Other than that, obvious click-bait title is obvious.


Hell, we don't even need an uprising, just some passive resistance. If guys would just boycott fat chicks and older chicks, then feminism would be dead in 6 months.
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Re: Most Men Do Not Deserve A Marriageable Woman (ROK)

Postby Jester » Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:02 am

I loved the OP.

+1 to ROK.

Thanks to The for posting here.

Sure, this stuff is basic to some. But even experts remind themselves of the basics.

So, we should do likewise, and remind ourselves of the basics - just like the experts.

Just yesterday, after the YMCA and the trail, I saw a lithe college-age beauty at Trader Joe's here in Athens Georgia. Too bad I'm grubby, unshaven, and fat, I thought. Wait till I get in shape and buy some new clothes, I thought. And get famous. Ah well.

But she kept attracting my gaze. So finally I saw her at the cheese counter, studying. Asked her to help me find one. Ended up - yes = getting her number.

Has she consented to cavort naked and bear me children? No. But she DID return my text today. So as the article said, there's always a chance.

If you don't ask, you don't get.

And if it doesn't go well, there probably ARE other girls. Somewhere.
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-- Dr John Hunsucker, speaking about canoeing on Georgia's Lake Lanier, with its irregular shape, and 1000 miles of meandering shoreline
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Re: Most Men Do Not Deserve A Marriageable Woman (ROK)

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:23 am

Hero wrote:
Ghost wrote:The only good point is that feminism would indeed end overnight if men formed up and overthrew the feminist regime. Other than that, obvious click-bait title is obvious.


Hell, we don't even need an uprising, just some passive resistance. If guys would just boycott fat chicks and older chicks, then feminism would be dead in 6 months.


Wrong. If guys stopped having premarital sex period then feminism would dissapear. But you guys dont want that you want the benefits of sluts only if they are with you but when not then you want them reserved. lol
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Re: Most Men Do Not Deserve A Marriageable Woman (ROK)

Postby Ghost » Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:47 am

newlifeinphilippines wrote:
Hero wrote:
Ghost wrote:The only good point is that feminism would indeed end overnight if men formed up and overthrew the feminist regime. Other than that, obvious click-bait title is obvious.


Hell, we don't even need an uprising, just some passive resistance. If guys would just boycott fat chicks and older chicks, then feminism would be dead in 6 months.


Wrong. If guys stopped having premarital sex period then feminism would dissapear. But you guys dont want that you want the benefits of sluts only if they are with you but when not then you want them reserved. lol


This is why a healthy society needs legal and cheap (preferably subsidized) p4p. Obviously, virginal girls need to remain so until marriage, under the guidance of their fathers and then later on, their husbands. We can't go around ruining those girls or society just ends up being a dump-heap socially. Having premarital sex is perfectly fine for me - it just has to be with whores or it will screw up society.

This would also incidentally put an end to fat, ugly, bitchy females as they would become ignored until they ceased to exist or improved.
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Re: Most Men Do Not Deserve A Marriageable Woman (ROK)

Postby Hero » Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:25 pm

Jester wrote:Just yesterday, after the YMCA and the trail, I saw a lithe college-age beauty at Trader Joe's here in Athens Georgia. Too bad I'm grubby, unshaven, and fat, I thought. Wait till I get in shape and buy some new clothes, I thought. And get famous. Ah well.

But she kept attracting my gaze. So finally I saw her at the cheese counter, studying. Asked her to help me find one. Ended up - yes = getting her number.

Has she consented to cavort naked and bear me children? No. But she DID return my text today. So as the article said, there's always a chance.

If you don't ask, you don't get.

And if it doesn't go well, there probably ARE other girls. Somewhere.


Wow, congratulations Jester :D May I ask how old you are?
Please keep us posted on further developments.
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Re: Most Men Do Not Deserve A Marriageable Woman (ROK)

Postby The » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:07 pm

Jester wrote:I loved the OP.

+1 to ROK.

Thanks to The for posting here.

Sure, this stuff is basic to some. But even experts remind themselves of the basics.

So, we should do likewise, and remind ourselves of the basics - just like the experts.

Just yesterday, after the YMCA and the trail, I saw a lithe college-age beauty at Trader Joe's here in Athens Georgia. Too bad I'm grubby, unshaven, and fat, I thought. Wait till I get in shape and buy some new clothes, I thought. And get famous. Ah well.

But she kept attracting my gaze. So finally I saw her at the cheese counter, studying. Asked her to help me find one. Ended up - yes = getting her number.

Has she consented to cavort naked and bear me children? No. But she DID return my text today. So as the article said, there's always a chance.

If you don't ask, you don't get.

And if it doesn't go well, there probably ARE other girls. Somewhere.


I hope you get to slay that freshly ripe p***y multiple times.....Theres nothing better than p***y from 18-25....

Even Patrice Oneal (RIP) mentions this....


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Re: Most Men Do Not Deserve A Marriageable Woman (ROK)

Postby johnnyderp » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:12 pm

It was a good article, hard to disagree with it.

I also hope Roosh and other mongers take note of the following... :lol:

You’re Just As Hedonistic

And of course you can claim that all women today are whores, but that is not true either. There are many women who still have a sense of dignity and only give away their sex selectively, since that is what women naturally want to do.
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Re: Most Men Do Not Deserve A Marriageable Woman (ROK)

Postby Ghost » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:46 am

johnnyderp wrote:It was a good article, hard to disagree with it.

I also hope Roosh and other mongers take note of the following... :lol:

You’re Just As Hedonistic

And of course you can claim that all women today are whores, but that is not true either. There are many women who still have a sense of dignity and only give away their sex selectively, since that is what women naturally want to do.


It is called hypergamy, and it means that women want to give sex to the top men. Who the top men are is determined by the society. This determines who women end up with. Western societies say idiotic assholes are the top men, so women choose assholes and idiots. This is neither new nor difficult to figure out.
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