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Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby Banano » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:11 pm

Its well known among HA community that vast majority of men don't have enough time or money to be able to live abroad, for many its only a few week vacation and that just dont cut it, some lucky ones are able to make enough money online

None of these solutions is good enough for average Joe Beta whose life consists of working, masturbating to porn and playing video games, you cant expect him to be happy with waiting 11 month just to be able to spend 2 or 4 weeks in some poosy paradise and then back to prison cell. Starting business is always a challenge, many try, many fail .

So what is the solution?
Solution is to bring a girl from from some shitty country to Western country on a tourist visa, tourist visas are valid anywhere from 3 month to 1 year. She stays at your place. Before her visa expires she MUST go back home. Repeat the process with a new chick.

Its simple solution for guys who are suffering from lack of p***y and for those that tried everything from expensive PUA material to going abroad.


This works best if you have your own place and some kind of job would help too.

Its better than marrying and being stuck with same old p***y for the rest of your life, you are not risking your assets and cant ruin you financially.
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby Cornfed » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:23 pm

How would you overcome the obvious problems with this approach?
1. Authorities of evil Western regimes are often wise to this and don't grant the visas.
2. There is nothing much in it for the girl unless you give her lots of money, in which case when you include travel costs it is simply another not particularly cost effective form of prostitution.
3. In some places the girl could claim you abused/trafficked her in order to get permanent residency, and then you are stuck with the equivalent of a typical Western female.
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby Moretorque » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:44 pm

This guy is my type of Christian but what if the package arrives and goods aren't as advertised then what do you do ? you lock and load the Cornfed catapult and hurl her back via air mail to where she came from. :wink:
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby Banano » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:19 pm

You are not gonna jump on internet and pick any random chick. You select, pres-screen, assess,video call/ skype her, make sure she is mentally stable(very important), clean, loves to cook, etc

Tell her about your plan to marry and this is only to see how she like new country and new culture;)...you know what i mean...that way she will be on her best behavior for the duration of her stay.
Say you ll be buying a new house or apartment or opening some sort of biz in near future, this tactics will keep her p***y lubricated enough for you to have mind-blowing sex.

Be that carrot dangler. Tom Leykis school. :lol:

Sometimes you have to play little games, cant play straight and expect great results. Rmbr she will be playing game too.:)
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby Moretorque » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:26 pm

Banano wrote:You are not gonna jump on internet and pick any random chick. You prescreen, assess,video call/ skype her, make sure she is mentally stable(very important), clean, loves to cook, etc

Tell her about your plan to marry and this is only to see how she like new country and new culture;)...you know what i mean...that way she will be on her best behavior for the duration of her stay.
Say you ll be buying a new house or apartment or opening some sort of biz in near future, this tactics will keep her p***y lubricated enough for you to have mind-blowing sex.

Be that carrot dangler. Tom Leykis school. :lol:

Sometimes you have to play little games, cant play straight and expect great results. Rmbr she will be playing game too.:)


Hey that's devious , she's liable to send you for a ride aboard the catapult.
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby OutWest » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:16 pm

Banano wrote:Its well known among HA community that vast majority of men don't have enough time or money to be able to live abroad, for many its only a few week vacation and that just dont cut it, some lucky ones are able to make enough money online

None of these solutions is good enough for average Joe Beta whose life consists of working, masturbating to p**n and playing video games, you cant expect him to be happy with waiting 11 month just to be able to spend 2 or 4 weeks in some poosy paradise and then back to prison cell. Starting business is always a challenge, many try, many fail .

So what is the solution?
Solution is to bring a girl from from some shitty country to Western country on a tourist visa, tourist visas are valid anywhere from 3 month to 1 year. She stays at your place. Before her visa expires she MUST go back home. Repeat the process with a new chick.

Its simple solution for guys who are suffering from lack of p***y and for those that tried everything from expensive PUA material to going abroad.


This works best if you have your own place and some kind of job would help too.

Its better than marrying and being stuck with same old p***y for the rest of your life, you are not risking your assets and cant ruin you financially.


I am not well versed on the visa policies outside the USA, but for the USA, this is not even possible. The chance of any filipina or a girl from a similar country getting a tourist visa is about ZERO.

My Filipino father in law only could get a tourist visa to the USA recently, and he is far from poor- he is at least upper middle class.
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:19 pm

I make money online but i still wouldn't live overseas permanently cause i have family here, i do miss america occassionally and its lonely, and i can save up money at home (like starchild).

The only thing i can think of is an arranged marriage with a vietnamese or indian. but that has huge risks if you assets and a shaky online income like i do. The only thing i can think of is in the future is take a few months vacation overseas every year once i can figure out my long term finances, etc. Guys with jobs and stuff probably can afford 2 weeks or so off which imo is a total waste of time unless you plan to marry the first girl you meet from online bu t thats a risk. I know someone who married a girl with a job after a fw visits im not sure how long he stayed each one or how he was able to get the time off but you need visit a few times for a length to get a feel and even then its a risk cause its not a length of time continuously.
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:27 pm

i dont see outwests reply?


anyways you can't bring a girl to marry if she is on a tourist visa i dont think (could be wrong or maybe she will get lots of questions of her agenda if she tries). Or maybe if you do a follow fiance visa after that there will be questions of how you met so youd have to go back to asia anyways to form a relationship so it sounds like even more money than if you went to asia yourself the first time and found a girl. Plus dating sites is a hard way to get a girls character and i certainly wouldn't bring her to america based on a video chat LOL
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby hammanta » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:20 pm

I think its more realistic for someone to take a year or two off than to stay permanently. All one really needs to do is stay out of debt and work hard for a few years. One can easily live in areas of Philippines for 15K a year, probably less. A year or two is better than 2-4 weeks. Factory workers in my area can make 35K + a year, which if you live frugal, you can probably save 10-15k a year.

I don't know how many fellow humanitarians are out there but you could also join the Peace Corps if you have the skills and desire. They change the format so as long as you qualify, you can choose your country. Just save up a bunch before you go so you don't have to live completely off their crappy salary. You get language training, housing (though probably lower quality) and a legitimate way in with the locals. Use saved funds to travel on spare time or make business connections.

Someone a few years ago on RooshV forum mentioned the Canadian Oil Flats. He had a huge thread about how much shortage of blue collar employees are there and how it was pretty easy for some guys to be racking in 100K in a 6 months. If you have a certification in HVAC, Electrical, Welding, or anything useful in the blue collar world you could potentially make a lot of dough. Work for 6 months and take off 6 months and head to SE Asia. I'm sure it's hard ass work, with long hours and shitty conditions but it really depends how much you want to live abroad. The guy acted like getting a job was as easy as showing up.

And then there's teaching English as we all know.

There really seems to be no easy or ideal path. Either way you need to put your dues in, work hard at some point, take risks, and have a little bit of luck I'm sure.

But your idea doesn't sound to bad but its hard as hell for poor country nationals to get tourist visas. Most likely not going to happen unless she owns land or has some legitimate proof to head back to her country. Then you also are risking the fact that she could be busted and not even worth the time.
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:24 pm

hammanta wrote:I think its more realistic for someone to take a year or two off than to stay permanently. All one really needs to do is stay out of debt and work hard for a few years. One can easily live in areas of Philippines for 15K a year, probably less. A year or two is better than 2-4 weeks. Factory workers in my area can make 35K + a year, which if you live frugal, you can probably save 10-15k a year.

I don't know how many fellow humanitarians are out there but you could also join the Peace Corps if you have the skills and desire. They change the format so as long as you qualify, you can choose your country. Just save up a bunch before you go so you don't have to live completely off their crappy salary. You get language training, housing (though probably lower quality) and a legitimate way in with the locals. Use saved funds to travel on spare time or make business connections.

Someone a few years ago on RooshV forum mentioned the Canadian Oil Flats. He had a huge thread about how much shortage of blue collar employees are there and how it was pretty easy for some guys to be racking in 100K in a 6 months. If you have a certification in HVAC, Electrical, Welding, or anything useful in the blue collar world you could potentially make a lot of dough. Work for 6 months and take off 6 months and head to SE Asia. I'm sure it's hard a** work, with long hours and shitty conditions but it really depends how much you want to live abroad. The guy acted like getting a job was as easy as showing up.

And then there's teaching English as we all know.

There really seems to be no easy or ideal path. Either way you need to put your dues in, work hard at some point, take risks, and have a little bit of luck I'm sure.


sounds like a bad idea to give up a good job in ths crappy economy so you can go wife search on a whim for 6 months to a couple years? and then bring her back to america where you could get raped again and to top it off you may not even have a job when you go back. and thats assuming you even find "marriage material" during that time which is a big if.


so your advocating bringing a wife to america back? For me the expectations and risk of the women go up exponentially and i wont have the budget to deal with that importing her back to america.
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby hammanta » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:32 pm

newlifeinphilippines wrote:
hammanta wrote:I think its more realistic for someone to take a year or two off than to stay permanently. All one really needs to do is stay out of debt and work hard for a few years. One can easily live in areas of Philippines for 15K a year, probably less. A year or two is better than 2-4 weeks. Factory workers in my area can make 35K + a year, which if you live frugal, you can probably save 10-15k a year.

I don't know how many fellow humanitarians are out there but you could also join the Peace Corps if you have the skills and desire. They change the format so as long as you qualify, you can choose your country. Just save up a bunch before you go so you don't have to live completely off their crappy salary. You get language training, housing (though probably lower quality) and a legitimate way in with the locals. Use saved funds to travel on spare time or make business connections.

Someone a few years ago on RooshV forum mentioned the Canadian Oil Flats. He had a huge thread about how much shortage of blue collar employees are there and how it was pretty easy for some guys to be racking in 100K in a 6 months. If you have a certification in HVAC, Electrical, Welding, or anything useful in the blue collar world you could potentially make a lot of dough. Work for 6 months and take off 6 months and head to SE Asia. I'm sure it's hard a** work, with long hours and shitty conditions but it really depends how much you want to live abroad. The guy acted like getting a job was as easy as showing up.

And then there's teaching English as we all know.

There really seems to be no easy or ideal path. Either way you need to put your dues in, work hard at some point, take risks, and have a little bit of luck I'm sure.


so your advocating bringing a wife to america back? For me the expectations and risk of the women go up exponentially and i wont have the budget to deal with that importing her back to america.


Not necessarily, I'm just giving examples of ways to get abroad for longer than a few weeks. Like I said there seems to be no easy path at all for living long term overseas. It's either have your own online business, work for a global company/government agency, or teach English, and of course the miscellaneous stuff like I just mentioned. The second option is kinda what I'm banking on. I just need to get the grad degree, gain some experience, and have a little luck. If I fail I still have a good opportunity in the U.S. and I'll take my chances bringing a girl back. It's better than settling or being lonely my entire life. Plus I don't hate this country nearly as much as most on here.
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby hammanta » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:42 pm

are you crazy. give up a good job in ths crappy economy so you can go wife search on a whim for 6 months to a couple years? and then bring her back to america where you could get raped again and to top it off you may not even have a job when you go back. and thats assuming you even find "marriage material" during that time which is a big if.


This isn't about bringing a wife back, it's about having time to go abroad. If you meet a girl and want to bring her back then so be it.

Factory work is a dime a dozen (26 year old brother has worked and gotten fired from like 15 different factory jobs) and people always need blue collar workers. The advice from the oil flats came from a Roosh guy who does exactly that. Jobs are so scarce there he said you can just take off and come back whenever. Not my words, his.

I don't see why you even bother. You take everyone's suggestions with little to no interest because they "don't pertain to you" yet offer nothing useful yourself. Obviously its not for everyone but I'm sure some could do it.
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:45 pm

hammanta wrote:
are you crazy. give up a good job in ths crappy economy so you can go wife search on a whim for 6 months to a couple years? and then bring her back to america where you could get raped again and to top it off you may not even have a job when you go back. and thats assuming you even find "marriage material" during that time which is a big if.


This isn't about bringing a wife back, it's about having time to go abroad. If you meet a girl and want to bring her back then so be it.

Factory work is a dime a dozen (26 year old brother has worked and gotten fired from like 15 different factory jobs) and people always need blue collar workers. The advice from the oil flats came from a Roosh guy who does exactly that. Jobs are so scarce there he said you can just take off and come back whenever. Not my words, his.

I don't see why you even bother. You take everyone's suggestions with little to no interest because they "don't pertain to you" yet offer nothing useful yourself. Obviously its not for everyone but I'm sure some could do it.


yes it is about bringing her back cause if you have to quit your job it means you need the money in america. If your retired there is no job to quit. :D

jobs are hard to get I dont think its a good idea to quit job for a temporary stay unless they think they absolutely could get another job easily and they think there is a good chance of success overseas. Especially if they meet someone they want to have a future together.
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:47 pm

hammanta wrote:
newlifeinphilippines wrote:
hammanta wrote:I think its more realistic for someone to take a year or two off than to stay permanently. All one really needs to do is stay out of debt and work hard for a few years. One can easily live in areas of Philippines for 15K a year, probably less. A year or two is better than 2-4 weeks. Factory workers in my area can make 35K + a year, which if you live frugal, you can probably save 10-15k a year.

I don't know how many fellow humanitarians are out there but you could also join the Peace Corps if you have the skills and desire. They change the format so as long as you qualify, you can choose your country. Just save up a bunch before you go so you don't have to live completely off their crappy salary. You get language training, housing (though probably lower quality) and a legitimate way in with the locals. Use saved funds to travel on spare time or make business connections.

Someone a few years ago on RooshV forum mentioned the Canadian Oil Flats. He had a huge thread about how much shortage of blue collar employees are there and how it was pretty easy for some guys to be racking in 100K in a 6 months. If you have a certification in HVAC, Electrical, Welding, or anything useful in the blue collar world you could potentially make a lot of dough. Work for 6 months and take off 6 months and head to SE Asia. I'm sure it's hard a** work, with long hours and shitty conditions but it really depends how much you want to live abroad. The guy acted like getting a job was as easy as showing up.

And then there's teaching English as we all know.

There really seems to be no easy or ideal path. Either way you need to put your dues in, work hard at some point, take risks, and have a little bit of luck I'm sure.


so your advocating bringing a wife to america back? For me the expectations and risk of the women go up exponentially and i wont have the budget to deal with that importing her back to america.


Not necessarily, I'm just giving examples of ways to get abroad for longer than a few weeks. Like I said there seems to be no easy path at all for living long term overseas. It's either have your own online business, work for a global company/government agency, or teach English, and of course the miscellaneous stuff like I just mentioned. The second option is kinda what I'm banking on. I just need to get the grad degree, gain some experience, and have a little luck. If I fail I still have a good opportunity in the U.S. and I'll take my chances bringing a girl back. It's better than settling or being lonely my entire life. Plus I don't hate this country nearly as much as most on here.


i dont hate this country and id rather be surrounded by my family. But there is a risk and also finance issue if you bring her to america. I can't seem to find an easy solution on any of this. its probably better just to stay single and forget it LOL
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby hammanta » Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:02 pm

newlifeinphilippines wrote:
hammanta wrote:
are you crazy. give up a good job in ths crappy economy so you can go wife search on a whim for 6 months to a couple years? and then bring her back to america where you could get raped again and to top it off you may not even have a job when you go back. and thats assuming you even find "marriage material" during that time which is a big if.


This isn't about bringing a wife back, it's about having time to go abroad. If you meet a girl and want to bring her back then so be it.

Factory work is a dime a dozen (26 year old brother has worked and gotten fired from like 15 different factory jobs) and people always need blue collar workers. The advice from the oil flats came from a Roosh guy who does exactly that. Jobs are so scarce there he said you can just take off and come back whenever. Not my words, his.

I don't see why you even bother. You take everyone's suggestions with little to no interest because they "don't pertain to you" yet offer nothing useful yourself. Obviously its not for everyone but I'm sure some could do it.


yes it is about bringing her back cause if you have to quit your job it means you need the money in america. If your retired there is no job to quit. :D

jobs are hard to get I dont think its a good idea to quit job for a temporary stay unless they think they absolutely could get another job easily and they think there is a good chance of success overseas. Especially if they meet someone they want to have a future together.


I disagree. I don't think jobs are that hard to come by, it's just very specific jobs people want that tend to be highly sought after. The fact is that Americans overspend like crazy. I just applied for 6 professional jobs as my contract is coming up soon and have heard back from 3 of them. As I said,if one can stay out of debt, there are plenty of jobs that pay decent enough to live off of comfortably that don't require that much skill or experience. Do those while improving oneself through other means (schooling, volunteer, self studying, etc.) There are plenty of organizations that provide job training and job matching services.

I think your notion of waiting til retirement is stupid. If you think the Philippines and other countries are shitty now, just wait another 20 to 30 years. At the current rate of globalization it's not going to look pretty for the snowbirds (e.i. me and you) for getting women or living cheaply abroad. I realize you plan on retiring in like 5 years, but for 90% of us, retiring at 40 isn't an option. We don't make 300K a year off of sketchy income. I want to enjoy my youth and improve on myself now plus meet women while I'm still decently handsome, high libido, and have the energy.

And I've mentioned before that I'm banking more on the professional route to take me overseas. Who knows I may fail and not make it but I'm going to try as hard as I can. And I don't want to be old and be lonely. That would be the most miserable thing out there.
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