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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby droid » Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:26 pm

The Alpha and Beta terms are so overused already, -yawwwn. And everyone has a different definition.
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby MarcosZeitola » Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:40 pm

droid wrote:The Alpha and Beta terms are so overused already, -yawwwn. And everyone has a different definition.


They are, I agree. And I see them being used primarily as an excuse... "I can't do this, I'm too beta", "those American women suck they only want Alpha men", etc., etc.,

The terms imply that people are like monkeys or wolves... true for some, way too simple for most, and fails to address the complexity of human interactions. Unless you're Jane f***ing Goodall, it's kind of a useless label to attach to people. But, in a way, I see where they are coming from, too.

Men who are shy, not overly confident and more reserved might be called "beta", whereas a more forceful and daring man with more machismo would be "alpha". Every group, every pack, has leaders and followers. Some except that, others chose to rise above the natural order of things and decide for themselves what they wish to be. That, to me, is the true "alpha man", the man who has no need for labels and acts.

People may classify men, to make things easier to understand. To understand dynamics, to understand hierarchy. But they mean absolutely nothing. They have as much power as you give it, as much truth as you believe it has, and never should a man be held back by what he beliefs is his natural place; his place is his choice, through the life he leads and the steps he takes.
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:08 pm

Devil Dog wrote:
newlifeinphilippines wrote:The only thing i can think of is an arranged marriage with a vietnamese or indian.


If you would post less it would be less obvious that you don't have any idea what the f**k you are talking about.

Protip: "Arranged marriage" isn't a thing in Vietnam.



So the chinese and koreans aren't doing arranged marriages in vietnam? There is a mail order bride vietnamese industry in singapore? Those videos and articles are false? Get over your vietnam orgy dont worry i wont go there cause I dont like chinese thinking women which describe vietnamese.
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby gibraltar » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:24 pm

I don't see how bringing a foreign wife will fix everything. Western society has so many problems that I wouldn't recommend poisoning an honest foreign woman.

Men need to travel, period. Make it a priority. Forget about buying the latest car or owning the next generation gaming system. Make it so important to travel at least once per year.

Your sex life will improve guaranteed. Who cares if you pay for it or not? If I'm banging a cute girl, I don't mind throwing her a few bucks. It beats overpaying for everything in the USA and having to use porn as a terrible substitute. Stop thinking about what other people think. Western society demonizes men that travel because they want to keep you trapped and paying taxes to keep women and the elites ahead of you. Don't let them control your only life. See the world and you will have sex with some of the hottest girls on the planet. I guarantee it.
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby xiongmao » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:52 pm

I used to think I was a beta. But I just quit my job (again) leaving all the "alphas" to slave away in a hot office for 40 hours a week then go home to their plain wives.

I'm not sure I'm into the whole wife finding thing anymore. But all I know is that in 3 weeks time I'm going abroad. Again. This time I bought a one way ticket.
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:57 pm

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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby gibraltar » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:58 pm

xiongmao wrote:I used to think I was a beta. But I just quit my job (again) leaving all the "alphas" to slave away in a hot office for 40 hours a week then go home to their plain wives.

I'm not sure I'm into the whole wife finding thing anymore. But all I know is that in 3 weeks time I'm going abroad. Again. This time I bought a one way ticket.


Same here. I quit my boring office job where I was being underpaid and the "boss" made WAY more money than I ever did. Turns out he was hoarding the money to finance his lifestyle and keep his gold digging GF happy. A lot of corporations and non-profits are frauds where they pretend to advocate for a cause but really spend the money on themselves.

I've been getting into stuff like binary options, forex, and other location independent money makers to finance my next trip this fall. It's a big world and I want to see it before I'm old and gray.

P.S. I'm the youngest male in the family and none of my older male family members are married. They are either single, divorced with kids or simply have "baby mommas." I'm shocked that they don't mind not having a traditional family but America has changed so much. Definitely look towards your older male family members and see if you want what they have. That's why I'm going EAST!
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby Devil Dog » Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:23 pm

newlifeinphilippines wrote:
Devil Dog wrote:
newlifeinphilippines wrote:The only thing i can think of is an arranged marriage with a vietnamese or indian.


If you would post less it would be less obvious that you don't have any idea what the f**k you are talking about.

Protip: "Arranged marriage" isn't a thing in Vietnam.



So the chinese and koreans aren't doing arranged marriages in vietnam? There is a mail order bride vietnamese industry in singapore? Those videos and articles are false? Get over your vietnam orgy dont worry i wont go there cause I dont like chinese thinking women which describe vietnamese.


No, those Chinese and Koreans aren't doing arranged marriages in Vietnam. An arranged marriage is a completely different thing from what you are referring to. See definition below. Like I said before, you post so much and prove that you don't know what you are talking about. You post your half assed theories on everything related to women and Asian culture based upon your short trip to PI when you shacked up with a hooker. That is a textbook screwup in itself, the absolute #1 dipshit bad move for the Philippines. And you fell right into it.

ar·ranged mar·riage
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a marriage planned and agreed to by the families or guardians of the bride and groom, who have little or no say in the matter themselves.
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:46 pm

Devil Dog wrote:
newlifeinphilippines wrote:
Devil Dog wrote:
newlifeinphilippines wrote:The only thing i can think of is an arranged marriage with a vietnamese or indian.


If you would post less it would be less obvious that you don't have any idea what the f**k you are talking about.

Protip: "Arranged marriage" isn't a thing in Vietnam.



So the chinese and koreans aren't doing arranged marriages in vietnam? There is a mail order bride vietnamese industry in singapore? Those videos and articles are false? Get over your vietnam orgy dont worry i wont go there cause I dont like chinese thinking women which describe vietnamese.


No, those Chinese and Koreans aren't doing arranged marriages in Vietnam. An arranged marriage is a completely different thing from what you are referring to. See definition below. Like I said before, you post so much and prove that you don't know what you are talking about. You post your half assed theories on everything related to women and Asian culture based upon your short trip to PI when you shacked up with a hooker. That is a textbook screwup in itself, the absolute #1 dipshit bad move for the Philippines. And you fell right into it.

ar·ranged mar·riage
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a marriage planned and agreed to by the families or guardians of the bride and groom, who have little or no say in the matter themselves.



short trip to PI? only been with a hooker? nice try but thats not the whole story. And yes there is arranged marriages happening in singapore and probably even in vietnam.
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby droid » Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:11 am

gibraltar wrote:or owning the next generation gaming system

^^this
Many blow thousands in computer parts or gaming consoles/games, all in an -subconscious- effort to sublimate.
Anyhow I've always stated that if you're not making much money in the states, and have no prospects to climb any ladder, there is actually MORE of a reason to leave.
You'll still scrape by, but at least you have a chance to improve your social situation.
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby Hero » Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:18 am

hammanta wrote:I think its more realistic for someone to take a year or two off than to stay permanently.


And when the time comes for you to return to the USA and find another job, how will you explain that 1-2 year gap on your resume?
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:18 am

droid wrote:
gibraltar wrote:or owning the next generation gaming system

^^this
Many blow thousands in computer parts or gaming consoles/games, all in an -subconscious- effort to sublimate.
Anyhow I've always stated that if you're not making much money in the states, and have no prospects to climb any ladder, there is actually MORE of a reason to leave.
You'll still scrape by, but at least you have a chance to improve your social situation.


broke foreigners dont do so good in asia. I remember some guy told me in private he had been living in PI for many years on a call center salary and he certainly didn't live a luxury life in any aspect socially or financially.
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby NorthAmericanguy » Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:52 am

Banano wrote:Its well known among HA community that vast majority of men don't have enough time or money to be able to live abroad, for many its only a few week vacation and that just dont cut it, some lucky ones are able to make enough money online

None of these solutions is good enough for average Joe Beta whose life consists of working, masturbating to p**n and playing video games, you cant expect him to be happy with waiting 11 month just to be able to spend 2 or 4 weeks in some poosy paradise and then back to prison cell. Starting business is always a challenge, many try, many fail .

So what is the solution?
Solution is to bring a girl from from some shitty country to Western country on a tourist visa, tourist visas are valid anywhere from 3 month to 1 year. She stays at your place. Before her visa expires she MUST go back home. Repeat the process with a new chick.

Its simple solution for guys who are suffering from lack of p***y and for those that tried everything from expensive PUA material to going abroad.


This works best if you have your own place and some kind of job would help too.

Its better than marrying and being stuck with same old p***y for the rest of your life, you are not risking your assets and cant ruin you financially.



There is no question that foreign women are better women all around. For me, foreign women are just more intelligent, they're much more civil and polite, and foreign women completely lack that cold hostile attitude that American women have towards males.

But that being said, what's the solution for males who can't travel overseas? You have 3 options:

1. Capitalize on the foreign women who come here to the United States to get an education. At most large college campuses, you have foreign women who are going to school, so you can openly walk on campus and talk to the girls. As long as you don't create a disturbance you should be able to roam freely and have fun hunting the foreign girls. Take a PE class, or a class with a lot of foreign women if you must just to have an excuse to be on campus. Even better is to get a job at a college like a friend of mine who is 30. While at work he is surrounded by hot young women. You figure, in America, I would guess that 70-80% of young women in the prime of their life are walking around on a college campus. College is like the huge holding tank for young people and in 2015 it's mostly women who are going.

2. If you're looking for just sex. Use the services of escorts via the internet. Hookers don't walk the streets anymore, they post ads online and sitback in hotels/motels and wait for you to show up and bone em. P411, cityvibe, eros, backpage and other websites you will find ads from women of all races. Prices range from 40 usd to 300 usd, or more. 80 usd can get you any hot girl that you want for at least 15 min (short stay). You can book for only 15 minutes to as long as the whole night or the weekend. It's the best bang for your buck if you're just looking for sex with the woman of your DREAMS! Many of these women are doing it to either feed thier kids, pay for school, or they are material girls who like to buy all the high end designer stuff. Making 2k in one day sitting back in a nice hotel getting F***d sure beats working for 9 bucks an hour at Burger King. Just beware of the police or getting robbed by a set up. You need to be a little street savy. Find 4-5 girls and just stick with them for your sexual needs in a rotaion, that way you don't need to be calling new girls all the time putting yourself at risk. With a budget of 900 bucks, you can bang 3 girls a week every month, so that's having sex 12 times a month with the girl(s) of your dreams.

3. This might sound funny/strange, but if you're a nice guy, a "bad girl", or a wild woman will probably give you a chance and see you being nice as a positive then "good girls" who often view nice guys as chumps. We talk on this forum all too much about how good girls go for bad guys leaving out that bad girls often are attracted to good guys, or at least end up with them. Not saying you have to marry a woman like this, but if you just looking for a good time, that girl with the tattoos and piercings is just going to be more open to being approached and she's not going to take your kindness as being weak.
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby tom » Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:42 am

Many good points made already,
As you are already well aware you have the whole world, you are not doomed to low quality women. Those small vacations are a good motivation.
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Re: Viable Solution for Betas who cant travel

Postby hammanta » Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:19 pm

Hero wrote:
hammanta wrote:I think its more realistic for someone to take a year or two off than to stay permanently.


And when the time comes for you to return to the USA and find another job, how will you explain that 1-2 year gap on your resume?


Of course you gotta do something with your time other than chasing women and drinking. Volunteer with an organization. Places like Habitat for Humanity, U.N., Child Fund, even some of the Embassys, would love to have free labor, especially foreigners. This is experience, if not great experience to bring back to the USA.

Also spend time learning the local language and the culture. NGOs and other for-profit companies need people who understand the area they work in. Or if you are a computer guy, hone your programming skills and try and get on in person with one of the Multi national corporations. I met an American guy in Manila working for I think IBM. He was shacked up in a 5 star hotel for 6 months on contract. It's all about networking.

Explaining the lapse of employment to most factory jobs or other blue collar jobs probably wouldn't be an issue, as long as you have some type of skill. It's usually about what you can do.

Now if you are looking to come back to a professional career making 60K+ a year I'm sure it's going to be more difficult. But again that's where the volunteering and not wasting your time comes into play. I'm not saying this is a full proof plan. There are risks but it can work and has worked. Just as others have mentioned, staying out of debt and not blowing thousands on luxury things is key.
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