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What would you guys do if you had kids?

Postby chanta76 » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:24 pm

I'm married..and yes my wife wants kids... I'm not too sure if I want kids. I think it's because I had a f***ed up childhood and have allot of fears but it does raise allot of questions.

I mean for the younger guys out there if you do find a decent traditional woman who is still young..almost majority of the case she want kids. The only way to avoid this is either find a girl who can't have kids or find a woman who CHOOSE not to have kids. From my experience woman who choose not to have kids tend to be more liberal or westernize. So it depends on what you want long term. The other option is never get married but you have to hop from one relationship to the other to avoid loneliness or something. As you get older it does get played hopping from one relationship to the other and it does get harder in some cases.

ANyway, this leads me to think.. what if I had son...and I live in USA because this is where I make my money...long term wise what if my son have the same problem I did growing up? I mean I can send him overseas to see how life is different and better prepare him in social interaction but still even overseas ...its becoming more and more westernize and superficial. It's like this world is becoming like one big America...
I mean if I had a son in 20-30 years from now I imagine it be worst but the flip side...maybe just maybe the Asian American male image will improve in USA and maybe just maybe he might have a bit easier.

Which leads me to another question?? What if I have a daughter. I mean she might grow up to be a feminist and honestly it;'s her choice but I think I would want her to be some sympathetic to how men are and that not all men are the enemy.

I mean for the guys that have kids. How are you raising them or preparing them? and for the guys that want kids . Do you think about these things?
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Re: What would you guys do if you had kids?

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:10 pm

Im having the same dilemma when im considering searching for a wife in the future. I either wont be able to afford or not really want one even if i could afford. But most likely i really wont be able to afford (or may have to seriously skimp on lifestyle) even if i just had one kid, but its hard to say though budgetwise. If i had the money id be more liberal on the issue. All in all though thats why im not in a hurry to marry cause if i have to have kids im not sure i really want to even bother with marriage at that point. Seems pointless. If its just sex i want id rather just fantasize then put up with kids LOL.


My filipina girlfriend didn't care if i wanted kids. I think she did but ultimately it wasn't a big deal. She kind of comes from a screwed up background though and she is in a desperate situation financially so your average filipina or any asian probably wouldn' be so great.

Im thinking there is 4 types of women i should target for wife that would be unlikely to want kids. The princess type who wants to be spoiled or is a bit of a gold digger. I know thats not ideal but if it means they dont want kids then great LOL. my filipina gf was a bit in that category. The desperate girls who will do anything you want to improve their lifestyle. Unfortunately they really do want kids but just go along with you. the third type had a screwd up child hood. Ideally number 3 is best cause the other 2 might leave you especially if you go to the west. I wish my gf was marriage material cause she fit in number 3 but she just isn't my type on a whole host of issues and while i could be friends with her I dont think id want to be married to her.
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Re: What would you guys do if you had kids?

Postby Taco » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:00 am

chanta76 wrote:Which leads me to another question?? What if I have a daughter. I mean she might grow up to be a feminist and honestly it;'s her choice but I think I would want her to be some sympathetic to how men are and that not all men are the enemy.


Raising kids in a western country is definitely an issue to worry about, especially if their girls. There's no easy answer for this. If you do have kids make sure they don't get a cell phone until their out of high school, it causes a lot of problems. That's just my opinion.

I live in the Philippines. My wife has two kids from her first relationship. Her 19 yr old daughter has given us some problems. She dropped out of college last year after we kicked her out house for drinking, drugs and sleeping with her boyfriend. She has since moved back with us and things have improved. Someone in the family has been looking at porn on my laptop and I think its her.

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Re: What would you guys do if you had kids?

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:15 am

Yes proof that there wont be a fairy tale ending with kids even in the philippines always.
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Re: What would you guys do if you had kids?

Postby fschmidt » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:50 am

chanta76 wrote:I mean for the guys that have kids. How are you raising them or preparing them?

I have kids, one son and one daughter, and they are teens now.

I told my wife that a condition for having kids is having no TV in the house. That helped. Since elementary school, I homeschooled my kids. This includes Bible study which definitely helps give perspective. Also we read original source material for history which helps give non-modern perspectives. And of course I teach critical thinking in all subjects. I have clear well-defined rules for dress for all family members, so this limits my daughter. She can be wild in her dress, but she can't dress like a slut.

I am not very concerned about my son because I think it is relatively easy to find a decent wife abroad. I am more concerned my daughter because I honestly think decent men are harder to find than decent women (worldwide).

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Re: What would you guys do if you had kids?

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:36 am

Im starting to think its better to be alone than deal with kids and risk of divorce.

dont want to live in asia away from my family but can't afford to bring a girl to america unless she did some work and didn't want kids but then id risk her leaving me for someone to make a baby and get bad influences and id be alone in the house while she is at work. plus id risk divorce. Not sure what is a better solution living abroad and all that entails or bringing a wife back.
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Re: What would you guys do if you had kids?

Postby Moretorque » Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:01 am

This is the real thing you need to consider, if you bring a child here you are bringing them into a world where estimates are easily 50% of all living organisms will be extinct by 2100 due to the 6th mass extinction.

We are offered immortality through our children as far as our blood lines go so sustaining from not having children is tough for people who really want children to love, I love children therefore I am not having any because they deserve better. :D

The people who bring them here and do not want them screw us all, they told us in the bible you cannot eat freely of the midst of the center of the garden and man did not heed the warning so more than likely we could be turning to dust shortly!
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Re: What would you guys do if you had kids?

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:11 am

One good thing about getting older is my sex drive is very very very slowly going down and my need for companiionship also. Maybe in a few years when i have enough money i wont even find it worth it. After a certain age teh desire isn't strong enough for the risk financially for getting raped in divorce court or having to deal with the B.S of raising kids jsut for some sinless p***y LOL.
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Re: What would you guys do if you had kids?

Postby Moretorque » Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:26 am

newlifeinphilippines wrote:One good thing about getting older is my sex drive is very very very slowly going down and my need for companiionship also. Maybe in a few years when i have enough money i wont even find it worth it. After a certain age teh desire isn't strong enough for the risk financially for getting raped in divorce court or having to deal with the B.S of raising kids jsut for some sinless p***y LOL.


Smart boy, Yaa you dodge a bullet and it can be tough to do. Some races are going extinct if current breeding trends continue and this is what our rulers want for the 1st worlder's to go under.
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Re: What would you guys do if you had kids?

Postby Jester » Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:48 am

Re the OP,

things will work out if you and your wife just love them, and don't try to push them.

FSchmidt's approach, homeschooling with no TV, eliminates toxic peer culture.

Homeschoolers, Waldorf schoolers and Un-schoolers have various networks, your kids will find sane friends there, and you will find like-minded parents.
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Re: What would you guys do if you had kids?

Postby S_Parc » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:24 am

Jester wrote:Re the OP,

things will work out if you and your wife just love them, and don't try to push them.

FSchmidt's approach, homeschooling with no TV, eliminates toxic peer culture.

Homeschoolers, Waldorf schoolers and Un-schoolers have various networks, your kids will find sane friends there, and you will find like-minded parents.


I don't want to sound paranoid but I believe that today, homeschooling is imperative. The America we grew up in, only a couple of decades ago, is gone.

If Mel and I decide to start a family, we'll be looking at splitting our kid's time between American homeschooling activities and then, spending time in Brazil, with some of my friends there.

The idea here, is the create a child, who was born in the early 80s vs a child of today.
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Re: What would you guys do if you had kids?

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:54 am

I see one more post about Mel im gonna scream hahahah :D
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Re: What would you guys do if you had kids?

Postby Jester » Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:50 am

S_Parc wrote:
The idea here, is the create a child, who was born in the early 80s vs a child of today.


So you're going to use the DeLorean?
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Re: What would you guys do if you had kids?

Postby MarcosZeitola » Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:39 pm

My Filipina wife and I have one child, a daughter. We intend to have more in the near future. There have been times were she would ask me if we could live "abroad", abroad being the West from her perspective. I told her I would rather raise my children in Asia. She asked me why, and I told her of my concerns for their future. My daughter plays with puppies and sniffs flowers outside, she grows up surrounded by nature and breathing fresh mountain air... I would be a horrible man to condemn her to living in a heavily polluted, toxic concrete prison during her formative years. My wife agreed; our daughter is much better off living a healthy and honest life in the Philippines, even if it means less income and even if it still is (and likely always will be) a third world country.

If you want to have kids, have kids. If you don't, look into the reasons why. If the main reason is that you worry for their well-being, then this means you are already a good father. It means you have great potential. Chances are, you'd be a better father then 90% of fathers nowadays. So, OP, you having children would probably work out fine. Either way, pro or con have to be weighed and decisions made. Your wife and you do not have eternal life or health, and if having children is a great wish for her and you rather not, you cannot hold her biological clock hostage by your indecisiveness.

Good luck, and hopefully you will figure out what is right. I'm sure you would make a great father. I can tell you from my personal experience that it is by far the most powerful thing I have ever been a part of, fatherhood. A very beautiful, strong and primal experience. It is not for all, but for the love of life, don't let your own bad childhood deny you of a family. When in fact my grandfather and father, who had horrible childhoods, used it as a motivation to become even better parents.

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Re: What would you guys do if you had kids?

Postby MarcosZeitola » Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:39 pm

My Filipina wife and I have one child, a daughter. We intend to have more in the near future. There have been times were she would ask me if we could live "abroad", abroad being the West from her perspective. I told her I would rather raise my children in Asia. She asked me why, and I told her of my concerns for their future. My daughter plays with puppies and sniffs flowers outside, she grows up surrounded by nature and breathing fresh mountain air... I would be a horrible man to condemn her to living in a heavily polluted, toxic concrete prison during her formative years. My wife agreed; our daughter is much better off living a healthy and honest life in the Philippines, even if it means less income and even if it still is (and likely always will be) a third world country.

If you want to have kids, have kids. If you don't, look into the reasons why. If the main reason is that you worry for their well-being, then this means you are already a good father. It means you have great potential. Chances are, you'd be a better father then 90% of fathers nowadays. So, OP, you having children would probably work out fine. Either way, pro or con have to be weighed and decisions made. Your wife and you do not have eternal life or health, and if having children is a great wish for her and you rather not, you cannot hold her biological clock hostage by your indecisiveness.

Good luck, and hopefully you will figure out what is right. I'm sure you would make a great father. I can tell you from my personal experience that it is by far the most powerful thing I have ever been a part of, fatherhood. A very beautiful, strong and primal experience. It is not for all, but for the love of life, don't let your own bad childhood deny you of a family. When in fact my grandfather and father, who had horrible childhoods, used it as a motivation to become even better parents.

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