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The RealDoll Manifesto

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Re: The RealDoll Manifesto

Postby tom » Mon Mar 16, 2015 5:31 am

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Re: The RealDoll Manifesto

Postby tom » Mon Mar 16, 2015 5:50 am

Cornfed wrote:
tom wrote:A full blown physically realistic RealDoll android with a highly adaptive female manipulative AI would have appeal to guys. You have to push the basic needs buttons, fantastic looks, ability to give pleasures at a high level and emotionally manipulative, this would hook most guys.

But given that the AI dolls will be controlled by the same corporations and their overlords that have turned actual females into such monsters, won't we just be paying for more of the same?


Yes this would be true, of coarse the apparent quality of women would be better, especially compared to American women. My point is this is a way AI could gain control and greatly reduce the human population, it would not be done trough a violent terminator style, it would be done by mimicking women and the humans would willingly go along with it. A female AI is more dangerous than a violent terminator because no one would see it as a threat. And to keep women in inaction is doing more of what is already being done. Expanding welfare state, free collage for worthless degrees, endless naval examining, illusions of expanding transfer of wealth from men.
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Re: The RealDoll Manifesto

Postby S_Parc » Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:27 pm

It's looking more and more like this topic is becoming my last major offensive, like the Argonne Forest/WWI metaphor, on HA, as I'm no longer traveling in search of a woman abroad. And even the no of esc@rting trips are dwindling.

Here's my idea ... so what I believe is happening, slower in western nations than in Japan, is that dating will come to an end in the west, within a couple of generations. And when the so-called "Internet of Things" becomes completely global, as companies and tech leaders like Google & Elon Musk want full satellite internet access globally, independent of the water/land based fiber optic networks, 99% of the population will be connected and influenced by information technologies. Thus, virtual reality and other sorts of media will in fact, displace a lot of human needs and communications. I'm estimating that many ppl on this forum, if they want to settle down and get married, have basically two decades left ... at best.

I believe that the US will be a complete no dating zone, given today's trends ...

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/bachelor-nation-70-men-aged-20-34-are-not-married

Which corroborates with my Columbia University theory ...

http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=25683

In a sense, I do believe that one of the reasons why we're settling down is almost a like of message from above (though I wouldn't put too much stock in such mysticism) and that message is that Mel and I will be an island in this society. A vast majority of our friends and colleagues will not be happily settled with anyone, when we hit our golden years. If that's the case, then be wary and select your partner carefully. Do not give in to blind optimism and idealistic meanderings that there's someone out there for everyone and that all you need to do is be in the Philippines or Brazil. Be prudent and choose carefully, if you want to go that route.
16 years ago, the Best Picture of 1999, "American Beauty", telegraphed the message of Happier Abroad to the world.

Beware of long term engagements with AWs, you may find yourself in a coffin.

AB discussion thread

BTW, despite settling down with an AW, myself, the warning is still in effect.
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Re: The RealDoll Manifesto

Postby S_Parc » Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:12 am

Looks there are some ppl out there, who didn't get society's memo. And that memo says that this is stuff is taboo in present times. There's no need to be making documentaries on Doll owners. Only post stuff about this stuff through a VPN and on an anonymous site, like this one.

http://www.dollforum.com/tdcvid/ADU_t2v1/

Once we hit the A.I. age of 2025-2035, the idea of synthetic companions will start to take off stateside. And then, it may be of interest, to put out these kinds of documentaries. Between now and then, mums the word :wink:
16 years ago, the Best Picture of 1999, "American Beauty", telegraphed the message of Happier Abroad to the world.

Beware of long term engagements with AWs, you may find yourself in a coffin.

AB discussion thread

BTW, despite settling down with an AW, myself, the warning is still in effect.
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Re: The RealDoll Manifesto

Postby retiredfrank » Sat Jun 11, 2016 4:14 am

S_Parc wrote:
MarcosZeitola wrote:This may work for some men, but for the majority I think it is just too weird and too much akin to a corpse.


In all honesty, I believe it'll work with up to 70% of men. Sure, the uncanny valley (which I personally don't believe in) will deter much of the remaining 30%.

The truth is closer to that, that the brainwashing of one's youth, on being accepted by women and all that jazz, is what's looming in ppl's minds. Thus, the Doll will simply bring up feelings of rejection, hurt, etc, instead of sexual relief and the soft touch of feeling a body.

And unfortunately, that's been a part of your proselytizing ... you badger men for not seeking women's approval. For a man who basically has it all (that's me), I realize that many men (particularly American men) will not be so fortunate. And as I'd stated earlier, if I were to ever have a son, the toughest thing I'll ever have to tell him is that he may never find a woman, as good as his mother.

Thus, if/when men are stuck stateside, whether it's for education, career, or taking care of their elders, a RealDoll is the most efficient way of dealing with their day-to-day sexual needs. I've already dissed on p@rn (bad for the mind), overpaying for prost*tutes outside of the US (high travel costs), and ordinary masturbation (totally lame).


What's lame about ordinary masturbation? I tried a fleshlight and THAT was lame to me, and this real doll sounds even worse. To each his own, I guess.

What you haven't discussed is sexual kung fu. That is, controlling orgasm so that energy is recirculated rather than lost, thus allowing you to masturbate for hours on end and have unlimited orgasms, as long as they are valley rather than peak orgasms. Also, imagining yourself as the woman rather than man, since the woman's role is far more satisfying sexually PROVIDED the man knows what he is doing, and of course the "man" does know what he doing when you are imagining him. (Most men don't know what they are doing with women, from what I have heard. I can't confirm this, since I don't have sex with men. But I do know I was incompetent when I was young and only became good after some older women instructed me on how to f**k properly. Most important piece of advice is slow down.)

The reason these sex dolls and/or regular masturbation won't work now, and probably won't work is the future, other than for maybe 10% of men, is the shame issue which you addressed to some degree. Marcos goes easy on you for some reason, maybe because you had Mel as a companion back before she was your lover and now wife, and also you apparently get hit on by women like that waitress, so he can't just smack you down like he can men who are completely devoid of women in their life. And Marcos is hardly the worst example of a guy who thinks he has been ordained by society to badger men who choose to give up on women, often for very good reasons (namely, cost outweighs benefit in societies like the US, for average guys). All this programming to be ashamed of masturbation, with or without sex dolls, is next to impossible to overcome for most men. I don't see society changing so that there is less shame, because society (or the rulers of society, to be more precise) benefit from this shame. A man who is content with masturbation doesn't buy fancy cars to impress the babes, doesn't join the military to impress the babes (great career as long as you have decent superiors and don't actually have to fight and don't come back missing your legs, like the vets I see here in Ukraine, those poor bastards don't get nice pensions like US vets), doesn't buy PUA books and courses, doesn't do much of anything to impress the babes. MGTOWs like me retire early and go fishing, so to speak (I retired early and now hike, bicycle and travel, with four hours a day dedicated to masturbation).

TL;DR version: Shame is the elephant in the room with respect to that sex doll or even regular masturbation, and that's why these options will only with for maybe 10% of men, way less than the 70% you suggest.

[Update: visit that yourbrainonporn site to see shame in action, not that I'm recommending porn, on the contrary, but they have guys who are now ashamed of real sex with real women, because the guy wasn't that excited about her, so that constitutes shameful fapping, using her real body like it was a sex doll, in their deranged minds. I'm tempted to go back and change that 10% I wrote above to 1%, because this kind of shame is the rule, not the exception.]
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Re: The RealDoll Manifesto

Postby retiredfrank » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:25 am

One more thing, since I mentioned that yourbrainonporn forum. Notice how all those guys on that site who stop wanking suddenly get these beautiful sweet tempered girlfriends, or else they are married guys with sweet tempered wives who want sex more than the man. Different world from that of the guys here on HA, who have difficulty getting any American woman for sex, much less a sweet tempered woman who wants sex as much as the man or even more, eh?

They also promise that giving up masturbation gives a man all sorts of "superpowers". I actually tried the hard-mode experiment (no porn, no sex, no masturbation, minimal thoughts of sex) for 37 days this spring. Absolutely no effect, other than slightly stronger morning erections, but maybe I just was waking up earlier, because that is when I have the strongest morning erections, around dawn versus an hour later. I did notice more time on my "hands" (heh heh) which of course I wasted on the internet. I finally gave up the experiment in disgust.

IMO the big change is when a man gives up peak orgasms by practicing sexual kung fu. That DOES give superpowers, but I began sexual kung fu many years ago.

My conclusion: no-fap is another scam like PUA, though no one is making money of it, just deluded fools leading other deluded fools. The real thing is Taoist sexual kung fu (or Tantra, all wisdom originally comes from ancient India though the ancient Chinese/Japanese sometimes improved it, and now the Europeans/Americans modernize it).
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Re: The RealDoll Manifesto

Postby S_Parc » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:40 pm

Frank, I believe what you're talking about is akin to Mantak Chia's lectures on sexual qigong practices where one redirects the org@sm energy through the microcosmic orbit creating a far greater state of bliss and focus than in losing it in an abrupt org@sm. This is an academic and practical discipline all on it's own, like Petroleum Engineering.

In other words, it's no longer ordinary masturbation but a form of qigong discipline [ and a rather advanced one as well ]. That's like talking about advance control theory in an elementary school geometry class where Marcos and Co are still trying to figure that the hypotenuse of a triangle is the square root of the sum of the two sides squared. These guys wouldn't score above a 10% on fluid dynamics, even if the profs gave points for spelling one's name right.

Since Mel and I do regular qigong stuff standalone, our general health has improved and in in her case, her leg strength/conditioning went through the roof, eclipsing any strength training I'd ever done. So sure, if one completely masters the org@sm energy then it's very likely that an 80 year old will have the same youthful vigor and mental acuity of someone, half his physical age, without getting hormone replacement therapy.

Looping this back to the RealDoll, for a regular guy, not an ardent qigong disciple, the physical touching of a woman (even a artificial stand-in), along with other hobbies and/or vocational interests, think of my pal Bosstone in my other threads ...

http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=28761

can lead to a fulfilling existence w/o the cacophony of so-called meaningful relationships and living life through an endless cycle of disappointments, trying to fulfill society's dictums.
16 years ago, the Best Picture of 1999, "American Beauty", telegraphed the message of Happier Abroad to the world.

Beware of long term engagements with AWs, you may find yourself in a coffin.

AB discussion thread

BTW, despite settling down with an AW, myself, the warning is still in effect.
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