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Winston said I may have Kazakh or Mongol blood. Opinions?

Postby Bao3niang » March 4th, 2015, 3:03 am

Much of this post will be a repeat of a previous one ("white worshiping"), but WHY do so many people think I am mixed and not pure Chinese? Are they simply telling blatant lies to make my mom happy?

My mom's skin is unaturally pale for a Chinese. She has fairly deep set eyes, her hair is quite curly. Her father (my maternal grandfather) has grey eyes, and all of his relatives have grey eyes too. I've seen a photo of one of them (long deceased) and she does look a little un-Chinese or Asian.

She loves to buy Chanel, and a Ukrainian saleswoman at the Chanel store here in Vancouver believes that they come from the same lineage. The Ukrainian woman got a woman from HK, a "pure" Chinese to stand beside Carolina.

I need to know how to upload pics here on HA. Once you see them, plese give me your opinions!
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Re: Winston said I may hav Kazakh or Mongol blood. Opinions?

Postby S_Parc » March 4th, 2015, 3:16 am

There was a legend that in ancient/medieval times ... the families of the last Emperor of Zoroastrian Persia, the collapsing Sassanid Empire, fled to China along with many others, to escape from the Islamic invasions. And while many did settle in central Asia, part of the former USSR (all of the *Stans), as well as Russia, a number of others set up shop in China, with the hope of someday reclaiming their original lands with the help of the Tang Dynasty, which of course, never happened. And so over time, these easternmost white ppl eventually integrated with the mainstay Chinese population, dissolving out the Sassanid Persian govt diaspora in exile.
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Re: Winston said I may hav Kazakh or Mongol blood. Opinions?

Postby Bao3niang » March 4th, 2015, 3:38 am

There is a Chinese surname, An, that is said to have originated in Persia.
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Re: Winston said I may hav Kazakh or Mongol blood. Opinions?

Postby droid » March 4th, 2015, 3:40 am

Your eyebrows are kind of thick, which is unusual for a Chinese. That makes you look more foreign.
For the photos, note that you can not upload directly to the forum's server.
So just get a free shutterfly.com account, it's pretty easy. Then you just upload in there and link the url to each image here with the [img] tag.
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Re: Winston said I may hav Kazakh or Mongol blood. Opinions?

Postby S_Parc » March 4th, 2015, 3:57 am

Bao3niang wrote:There is a Chinese surname, An, that is said to have originated in Persia.


Here's the problem, that ancient Persian Empire, esp during its decline, did not keep many records and thus, associating today's world with that time period, involves archaeologist digging through ruins and so forth.

Plus, the invasion of the Islamicized Arabs, changed the profile of the modern day Persians, from a group of ppl who're basically eastern European, into a middle eastern culture, and those outside of that converted fold, got integrated into other nation-states. I believe today, there are still Zoroastrian diasporas, living in India, Central Asia, bits of Iran, and the western world. Their numbers are dwindling and will probably be gone in a few generations but it's interesting to note that certain remnants persisted for a millennia.

Those who probably came to China, had no reason to maintain that culture, after a few generations, once it became obvious that the old Persian Empire would never come back. I suspect that some of the so-called Chinese "whites", are of Persian descent.
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Re: Winston said I may hav Kazakh or Mongol blood. Opinions?

Postby Bao3niang » March 4th, 2015, 4:15 am

You can see recent pics of me on my FB page: www.facebook.com/andrew.teng.121
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Re: Winston said I may have Kazakh or Mongol blood. Opinions

Postby Bao3niang » March 4th, 2015, 5:49 am

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Re: Winston said I may have Kazakh or Mongol blood. Opinions

Postby droid » March 4th, 2015, 6:04 am

No it doesn't work like that. We can't access your account, you have to tag the image url directly

Go to the picture in the shuterfly album, right click on it and hit "save image url", then paste the url here.
And all of that encased in the img tag.
For example

[img]http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4cc36b3127ccef7b73b4399fb00000030O00E
bNGrVo5aOAe3nwc/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00804945504620141217193759563.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/[/img]

If you want to share a link to a whole album it's a bit more complicated, you actually have to make a shareable album in SF and link the pictures to that one. It kind of sucks, don't bother with that if you only have a few pics, do the above.
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Re: Winston said I may have Kazakh or Mongol blood. Opinions

Postby Bao3niang » March 4th, 2015, 6:47 am

I don't see save image URL on the sutterfly site.
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Re: Winston said I may have Kazakh or Mongol blood. Opinions

Postby S_Parc » March 4th, 2015, 6:58 am

Bao3niang, can I ask you a question, why do you care, whether or not you have some ancient Persian (or some other white) ethnic background?

Are you planning on fighting for some Zoroastrian cause, to restore the ancient faith or some other lost cause?

Perhaps it's better to focus on the future than on some ancestors from a lost nation.
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Re: Winston said I may have Kazakh or Mongol blood. Opinions

Postby Bao3niang » March 4th, 2015, 7:21 am

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Re: Winston said I may have Kazakh or Mongol blood. Opinions

Postby zboy1 » March 4th, 2015, 7:31 am

You look a bit like the Xinjiang people in China: they have that certain, Middle Eastern look to them.
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Re: Winston said I may have Kazakh or Mongol blood. Opinions

Postby Richardrli » March 4th, 2015, 9:02 am

Andrew, it's your friend Richard here. I have to agree with Zboy and from your pictures I could sense a subtle Middle Eastern ancestry perhaps some time in the (distant?) past. However, your eyes (just like mine) can't be mistaken for anything other than East Asian.
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Re: Winston said I may have Kazakh or Mongol blood. Opinions

Postby Mr.Darcy » March 4th, 2015, 1:36 pm

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Re: Winston said I may have Kazakh or Mongol blood. Opinions

Postby S_Parc » March 4th, 2015, 4:36 pm

I believe the ppl of Turkmenistan look a bit like the OP.
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