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Republicans Trolling Obama?

Postby zacb » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:41 pm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/03/09/republicans-are-beginning-to-act-as-though-barack-obama-isnt-even-the-president/

The link if you don't know what is going on. While I dislike Obama as much as anyone else, this is just stupid shit. Should they be charged under the Logan Act? What do you think of this? Should John Boehner be charged for inviting Bibi Netanyahu without prior approval? Does this bode well for the stability of the United State? What are your thoughts?
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Re: Republicans Trolling Obama?

Postby OutWest » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:48 pm

zacb wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/03/09/republicans-are-beginning-to-act-as-though-barack-obama-isnt-even-the-president/

The link if you don't know what is going on. While I dislike Obama as much as anyone else, this is just stupid shit. Should they be charged under the Logan Act? What do you think of this? Should John Boehner be charged for inviting Bibi Netanyahu without prior approval? Does this bode well for the stability of the United State? What are your thoughts?



You dislike Obama? Why?
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Re: Republicans Trolling Obama?

Postby Moretorque » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:44 pm

No the United States republic was dissolved over 80 years ago, it was declared bankrupt March 9th 1933. Israel is a front for the CITI and tells Washington what to do.

I think people are stupid and our rulers know this. Everybody has had plenty of time to figure out a group of con men are taking the world over with fake money.
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Re: Republicans Trolling Obama?

Postby zacb » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:57 pm

OutWest wrote:
zacb wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/03/09/republicans-are-beginning-to-act-as-though-barack-obama-isnt-even-the-president/

The link if you don't know what is going on. While I dislike Obama as much as anyone else, this is just stupid shit. Should they be charged under the Logan Act? What do you think of this? Should John Boehner be charged for inviting Bibi Netanyahu without prior approval? Does this bode well for the stability of the United State? What are your thoughts?



You dislike Obama? Why?


Obamacare, continuing some elements of President Bush's failed foreign policy, increasing the deficit, flip flopping on major issues, the continuation of bail outs, the stimulus package, supporting TARP, Libya, ISIS, copyright non-reform, looking to ban certain ammo, continuing the Patriot Act, the NDAA, political correctness, among other things. He has done a few things, but the one thing that gets me is the wasteful spending. Congress is partially responsible as well.
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Re: Republicans Trolling Obama?

Postby OutWest » Wed Mar 11, 2015 5:45 pm

Members of both partiesackha
quote="zacb"]
OutWest wrote:
zacb wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/03/09/republicans-are-beginning-to-act-as-though-barack-obama-isnt-even-the-president/

The link if you don't know what is going on. While I dislike Obama as much as anyone else, this is just stupid shit. Should they be charged under the Logan Act? What do you think of this? Should John Boehner be charged for inviting Bibi Netanyahu without prior approval? Does this bode well for the stability of the United State? What are your thoughts?



You dislike Obama? Why?


Obamacare, continuing some elements of President Bush's failed foreign policy, increasing the deficit, flip flopping on major issues, the continuation of bail outs, the stimulus package, supporting TARP, Libya, ISIS, copyright non-reform, looking to ban certain ammo, continuing the Patriot Act, the NDAA, political correctness, among other things. He has done a few things, but the one thing that gets me is the wasteful spending. Congress is partially responsible as well.[/quote]

Well that's a pretty good list,..mine would have been longer yet. The Speaker of the house is a political Hack no doubt, but inviting a foreign leader to speak in no way is "negotiations" and sending the putrid ayatollah a notice is hardly a negotiation either. Members of both parties talk to foreign leaders all the time, as do private citizens. Its not against the law. To conduct negotiations on behalf of the USA is a rather specific activity.
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Re: Republicans Trolling Obama?

Postby Jester » Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:48 pm

Moretorque wrote:
No the United States republic was dissolved over 80 years ago, it was declared bankrupt March 9th 1933.



Not that I can see.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Banking_Act

It looks to me like that this was the date on which the Fed cartel was given carte blanche to infest and subvert the entire banking industry.

I see no dissolution of the federal republic therein.


Israel is a front for the CITI and tells Washington what to do.

I think people are stupid and our rulers know this. Everybody has had plenty of time to figure out a group of con men are taking the world over with fake money.



Good encapsulation.
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Re: Republicans Trolling Obama?

Postby Jester » Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:52 pm

OutWest wrote:
Members of both parties talk to foreign leaders all the time, as do private citizens. Its not against the law.



True. Under the Constitution, Senators in particular should be doing this -- as well as the Secretary of State and the President.
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Re: Republicans Trolling Obama?

Postby Jester » Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:10 pm

zacb wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/03/09/republicans-are-beginning-to-act-as-though-barack-obama-isnt-even-the-president/

The link if you don't know what is going on. While I dislike Obama as much as anyone else, this is just stupid shit. Should they be charged under the Logan Act? What do you think of this? Should John Boehner be charged for inviting Bibi Netanyahu without prior approval? Does this bode well for the stability of the United State? What are your thoughts?


Good post, good questions.

The Republican Senators letter was lawful. "Executive agreements" are illegal and need to end.

It is the Senate AND the President, not the President alone, who approve treaties.

Boehner can invite who he wants, he does not need anyone's approval.

The Logan Act is unconstitutional nonsense. If you want to stop me from talking with a foreigner, declare war on him. Otherwise I am free to talk to whomever I please, under Common Law, the Tenthe Amendment, and the First Amendement.

And by the way, I do agree with your general sense that Red-Staters have acquired the woman-ish emotionalism that leftists have always had. Obama may be a murderous bisexual crack-smoking foreign-born puppet, but he kept us out of war with Syria and Russia, apparently not wanting to be the fall guy for the rabid drooling UltraZionist crazy wing of the NWO.

And I do agree that inviting Netanyahu is shameful. Congress is composed mostly of whores.
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Re: Republicans Trolling Obama?

Postby zacb » Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:37 pm

Jester wrote:
zacb wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/03/09/republicans-are-beginning-to-act-as-though-barack-obama-isnt-even-the-president/

The link if you don't know what is going on. While I dislike Obama as much as anyone else, this is just stupid shit. Should they be charged under the Logan Act? What do you think of this? Should John Boehner be charged for inviting Bibi Netanyahu without prior approval? Does this bode well for the stability of the United State? What are your thoughts?


Good post, good questions.

The Republican Senators letter was lawful. "Executive agreements" are illegal and need to end.

It is the Senate AND the President, not the President alone, who approve treaties.

Boehner can invite who he wants, he does not need anyone's approval.

The Logan Act is unconstitutional nonsense. If you want to stop me from talking with a foreigner, declare war on him. Otherwise I am free to talk to whomever I please, under Common Law, the Tenthe Amendment, and the First Amendement.

And by the way, I do agree with your general sense that Red-Staters have acquired the woman-ish emotionalism that leftists have always had. Obama may be a murderous bisexual crack-smoking foreign-born puppet, but he kept us out of war with Syria and Russia, apparently not wanting to be the fall guy for the rabid drooling UltraZionist crazy wing of the NWO.

And I do agree that inviting Netanyahu is shameful. Congress is composed mostly of whores.


I agree Obama's actions are wrong as well. Thus why I criticise him as well. While I agree it should be legal for an ordinary citizen should be able to do whatever they want, I believe that actions of acting representatives of the United States should be more restricted. So in terms of ordinary people, the Logan Act would be unconstitutional. As far as congresscritters, I think it should be applied.

Maybe it just makes me mad that so many of the GOP senators would support repealing a peace accord, but I would not mind if most the war mongers are locked up. It is sad when free speech and separation of powers collide.

As for Obama, I will give him credit so far for not going to war. Libya was a mess though.
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Re: Republicans Trolling Obama?

Postby Moretorque » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:45 am

Jester wrote:
OutWest wrote:
Members of both parties talk to foreign leaders all the time, as do private citizens. Its not against the law.



True. Under the Constitution, Senators in particular should be doing this -- as well as the Secretary of State and the President.


They claim their is a missing 13th amendment and these versions of the constitution were taken out of circulation by the credit monopoly and it states no mingling with foreign entities.
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Re: Republicans Trolling Obama?

Postby Moretorque » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:53 am

Jester wrote:
Moretorque wrote:
No the United States republic was dissolved over 80 years ago, it was declared bankrupt March 9th 1933.



Not that I can see.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Banking_Act

It looks to me like that this was the date on which the Fed cartel was given carte blanche to infest and subvert the entire banking industry.

I see no dissolution of the federal republic therein.


Israel is a front for the CITI and tells Washington what to do.

I think people are stupid and our rulers know this. Everybody has had plenty of time to figure out a group of con men are taking the world over with fake money.



Good encapsulation.


Wikipedia ? your joking right ???? :lol: IRAQ is in bankruptcy. All the countries are placed into bankruptcy when the socialist con men take it over and set up the credit con where all commerce is routed through the commies. There is no real payment under rule by the credit monopoly, we are waiting for the morons to figure out the purpose of real money.

All the major media is captured when a country is taken over by treaty and turned over to a CITI style system so the sheople cannot figure out their errected rulers are a puppet regime after the bankruptcy is implemented.
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