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RooshV Considering Moving Back to USA

Postby The » Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:27 pm

http://www.rooshv.com/4-things-i-observed-from-my-trip-to-new-york-city

4 Things I Observed From My Trip To New York City


3. Made men have it best

If you want to live in this city and enjoy it to the fullest, you should already come as a made man with over $300,000 a year in income or a couple million in the bank. Of course you can live in New York for a fraction of that, and find a niche that does give you happiness, but New York allows you to live a regal lifestyle if you have the bankroll.

In the Polish city I’m in, doubling my income would not change my lifestyle one bit, because the city does not have the amenities, Dubai whores, or luxury accommodations that the money could obviously be spent on. The most expensive club cover charge I’ve found is $13 and a cocktail drink price never passes $10.

If you decide to live in New York, there are two options that await you:

a) Become a part of the grind for a short period. Get a humble apartment, work for the man, count your quarters, and squeeze in some easy bangs. After a year or two, when you realize you’ve saved no money and have few—if any—deep relationships, go somewhere else to achieve more financial independence and a higher level of social meaning that takes you away from more shallow pursuits.

b) Accumulate further wealth on top of your already high wealth. Let New York live for you instead of you living for New York. Live like a modern king with a lifestyle that your ancestors couldn’t even dream of.

While my income is high enough to live in New York on favorable terms, my financial cushion would be shrunk to such a degree that I wouldn’t be entirely comfortable.


4. The girls are way better than in Washington DC

My sample size is tiny due to the shortness of my trip (about 10 approaches), but the positive reactions I got from those 10 in an eight-hour period surpass near all the approaches I did in Washington DC for an entire month when I visited last year.

The girls I approached were insanely receptive and genuinely wanted to talk to me. We say in these parts that girls have a lot of options thanks to internet dating while losing the ability to have a conversation if we approach them, but it seems that in New York the dating market is exceptional in some ways due to local demographic conditions and the fact that straight man act effeminate. The girls seem to be craving a confident guy who doesn’t put them on the pedestal and has internationally renowned clown banter.

Not a single girl blew me out, insulted me, or hit me with a feminist talking point. Only one girl looked at her iphone during the conversation. They asked me plenty of personal questions. They did way more talking and helped move the communication forward. One 22-year-old girl approached me in the bar and let me escort her away from her friends for a sloppy make-out session (to be young again!). Another girl gave me her number and then sent me a text asking for a date the next night. The interactions stalled, sadly, when girls found out I was a tourist and staying in a hotel, especially since a couple of those girls would have needed a date to take the intimacy further.

Again, the sample size is small, so no grand conclusions can be made, but if I can duplicate this reception just once in a while, that means girls in New York like me more than girls in Poland. In Poland, a huge number of girls are already in a serious relationship and aren’t as eager to upgrade, so most of my approaches stall for that reason alone. In New York, it seemed that every girl I talked to was sexually available from not being in a serious relationship.

This may be my ego talking, but I’m confident I can get both higher quality and quantity in New York than in my current city in Poland. This isn’t due to just me but the local conditions where New York girls are ready for sex with a mature man who doesn’t act like a fag. It was also interesting to note that girls give quite a bit of eye contact, possibly just as much as in Poland.

Upon returning to Poland, I did a batch of ten approaches and had lower results than the ten in New York. One girl in Poland even rolled her eyes at me, a harsh response that a New York girl did not once give. Poland was amazing for me in 2011, but it’s clear that the tide has turned, and the benefit it offers for me has become mostly financial.


Is Repatriation Now On The Table?

It’s interesting to note that one of the reasons I left the USA is to get a better standard of woman, but it seems that I may have passed a point where I can now do better in New York than abroad. My years of international experience has possibly made me a more attractive catch back in the States. I would have to stay much longer to be sure, but the idea of living in a Western city like New York wouldn’t be a nightmare scenario like in the past.

I calculated that I would need at least $6,000 a month cash to transfer my current lifestyle from Poland to New York, which is four times what I’m currently spending now. Even with that amount, I’d still have to watch my budget and be careful about buying too many rounds of drinks for my friends when I’m in a nice bar and having fun, unlike in Poland where I can make it rain all night without any concern. I would receive two main immediate benefits if I lived in New York: (1) unlimited options for entertainment and easy fornication, and (2) a large social circle of male peers.

The second reason appeals the most to me, but such friendships will invariably entail late nights out, excessive alcohol use, and chasing women. I wonder if it’s a good idea to slip back into that lifestyle, one that I already did before. At nearly 36 years of age, will pursuing more notches and going out to bars three times a week really give me more in life than focusing on my work and being alone in a tame Polish city? As you know, sequels are never better than the original, so I wonder how quickly I’d get tired of it.

I believe New York would cause me to regress into a pursuit of hedonistic delights of the flesh and drink without furthering my development as a man. While my current Polish city is not a village by any means (the metro area has a population of 1 million), it’s harder to lose focus here than in New York, and I’m afraid that my horny constitution is not yet strong enough to resist the unlimited pleasures that New York would offer me.

I know more than anyone that a city or country can change rapidly. As I’ve shared recently, Polish culture is currently on the decline along with most other parts of Eastern Europe. It may happen within 2-5 years where Poland degrades to such a point that I must move to another area of the world. Eastern Europe may merely be a way station for a destination I do not yet know. I’m not sure what the future will hold, but this is the first year since I left the States over five years ago that the idea of moving back wouldn’t fill me with reluctance and dread.

If I ever do move to New York, and it’s not a temporary plan, you can interpret that as me giving up on all notion of ever having a family of my own. It means I must have decided that during the period of humanity I happen to exist in, a life of expensive pleasure is the best outcome to pursue.


Good Lord Almighty!?!? New York of all places....I mean great place the visit but for dating....Yuck!
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Re: RooshV Considering Move Back to USA

Postby droid » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:04 am

Regardless of what NY is, it's so clear location makes the difference but
they wont openly admit it.
They'll probably now call this: location-change "game" Lol
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Re: RooshV Considering Move Back to USA

Postby The » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:37 am

^^^^^Lol....I dont think Roosh is happier abroad if hes considering moving back to the US.... I guess happier abroad is not for everyone...

Besides happier abroad should not be just about sex anyway...How about cultivating long lasting friendships, enjoying the local culture, seeing the sites......In other words, living like a local instead of being a perpetual sex tourist....
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Re: RooshV Considering Move Back to USA

Postby S_Parc » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:12 am

I'm trying to understand the NYC thing. So the idea is that if one is earning north of $300K, basically a Wall St banker/trader or media executive, then he can live the life.

Ok, here's the thing ... that's the wrong use of one's money.

Here's what a so-called made man needs to do in Manhattan. Strip down your expenses and move into a studio, hopefully not too close to Alphabet city for one's own protection.

Then, when Thursday night comes by and you can have your Friday meetings over a conference line, head to LaGuardia and fly into Montreal city. It's a very short flight.

For the next three days, party it up in MTL. You can mix it up with hitting on women at bars, along with strippers, and then some esc*rts, when your time is short. I'd even recommend buying your real condo there, instead of NYC, as prices in MTL, don't fluctuate so much, depending upon foreign investor sentiment. Plus, the typical units there, even in the best parts of town, are a third of NYC.
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Re: RooshV Considering Move Back to USA

Postby onethousandknives » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:16 am

Give me a nice Polish girl who looks nice, can cook pierogis and bigos stew, doesn't bitch at me all the time, who'll have sex with me relatively often (by American standards, once or twice a week I'd be happy with.) Some kids who aren't uselessly playing video games all day when they get home from school, and won't get arrested for going to the park to play, an old BMW or Mercedes from the 80s or 90s, and a house in the countryside with a nice yard to grow some vegetables and for me and the kids to play in, but about a half hour away from the city or a larger town, and I'm all set. Then I can go to the grocery store and buy some nice Zywiec Porter or Bock beer, and grow some grapes and make my own wine. This is what I'd do if I was a "made man" millionaire baller like Roosh claims to be, or hell, even had 200K or so saved up. Just live like this forever and ever.

"Ooh, I want to live high society blah blah blah." What an idiot.
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Re: RooshV Considering Move Back to USA

Postby drealm » Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:34 am

So RooshV finally admits you need money, not just "game".

Whatever happened to "I'm unemployed and I live with my dad in his basement."

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Re: RooshV Considering Move Back to USA

Postby Teal Lantern » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:15 am

4. The girls are way better than in Washington DC
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Again, the sample size is small, so no grand conclusions can be made, but if I can duplicate this reception just once in a while, that means girls in New York like me more than girls in Poland. In Poland, a huge number of girls are already in a serious relationship and aren’t as eager to upgrade, so most of my approaches stall for that reason alone. In New York, it seemed that every girl I talked to was sexually available from not being in a serious relationship.

This may be my ego talking, but I’m confident I can get both higher quality and quantity in New York than in my current city in Poland. This isn’t due to just me but the local conditions where New York girls are ready for sex with a mature man who doesn’t act like a fag. It was also interesting to note that girls give quite a bit of eye contact, possibly just as much as in Poland.

Upon returning to Poland, I did a batch of ten approaches and had lower results than the ten in New York. One girl in Poland even rolled her eyes at me, a harsh response that a New York girl did not once give. Poland was amazing for me in 2011, but it’s clear that the tide has turned, and the benefit it offers for me has become mostly financial.

A girl ready to have sex immediately after meeting you or "upgrade" from a serious relationship to have a short-term/one time fling is what now passes for "higher quality"? :roll:
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Re: RooshV Considering Move Back to USA

Postby The » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:15 am

I like Roosh and all but even the commenters on the article are actively convincing him to move to New York....I thought that they would have been more "Pro-overseas" as opposed to "Pro-North America".....very surprised to say the least.....
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Re: RooshV Considering Move Back to USA

Postby fschmidt » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:45 am

Makes sense, New York City is the ideal location for human scum.
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Re: RooshV Considering Move Back to USA

Postby jamesbond » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:03 pm

fschmidt wrote:Makes sense, New York City is the ideal location for human scum.


Exactly, NYC is the arm pit of the United States. There are some members of this forum who live there (or used to live there) and hate it with a passion.

The crime rate is high, the taxes are high, the winters are horrible and the people are rude and unfriendly. And this is the city Roosh wants to move to? WTF :shock:
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Re: RooshV Considering Move Back to USA

Postby S_Parc » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:06 pm

jamesbond wrote:The crime rate is high, the taxes are high, the winters are horrible and the people are rude and unfriendly. And this is the city Roosh wants to move to? WTF :shock:


Actually, that's Chicago, the perfect blend of crime, horrible winters, and rude ppl :wink:

NYC is actually warmer than both Chi-Town and Boston, though everything else holds true.
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Re: RooshV Considering Move Back to USA

Postby tamdrin12 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:43 pm

I could care less what Roosh does or what his plans are. In my limited experience New York is a great place to visit.. for a few days or a week. But then I have a free place to stay there and don't have to pay for expensive hotels. It is one of the most multicultural places in the world... You could find so many FOB'S over there if you try hard enough.... It is true though you really need a lot to live in a place like New York. And it means working your ass off for most of the people who live there... Definitely not for me... I will stay in Thailand.
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Re: RooshV Considering Move Back to USA

Postby fschmidt » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:56 pm

tamdrin12 wrote:In my limited experience New York is a great place to visit..

I grew up in the New York area and I worked there for years. New York was a great place to visit, but it has changed dramatically and is no longer worth visiting. It was just as evil in the old days as now, but it was a vibrant evil where anything was possible. The food was great and there was real social mobility. Now the vibrancy and social mobility are gone and the food generally sucks. Today New York feels like a wealthy third world city, somewhat like Buenos Aires. The vibrancy has moved to China.

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Re: RooshV Considering Move Back to USA

Postby tamdrin12 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:09 pm

Go ahead.. move to China for three years.. You will be begging to come back to New York
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Re: RooshV Considering Move Back to USA

Postby chanta76 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:51 pm

I live in NEw YOrk city. Back when I was single dating was tough. I did cold approaches back when I was single and I got mixed result but the thing about New York City is you do have higher amount of international students compared to other states and also you have the growing immigrant population. If you target those areas it's possible to find a decent girl.

HOwever, Roosh is white and I'm Asian . There was a brief period where I did only try to approach white girls...the only conclusion I came away with is that there is racism in the dating market against Asian men. I guess maybe Roosh got lucky. I guess. Regarding income..you don't need $300K to live OK in New York city unless of course your talking about living in nice apt. or condo within Manhattan in good area. If your single and make over $140 k you do fine. If you let say you make $70 k a year it's possible to still live in Manhattan but it be renting and getting a roommate ..either that you have to live in the boroughs.
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