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Would you live abroad or in the west?

Post by survivingIncelMan » May 3rd, 2015, 8:47 pm

I know many of us here desire to travel or already traveled abroad to meet better women/wife and to get away from American women. If you are not looking for a wife/girlfriend, would you still live abroad or live in the west?

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Re: would you live abroad or live in the west?

Post by The » May 3rd, 2015, 8:52 pm

Ill live in a western country not named the United States, sure.....Western Europe would be good, that way you have easier access to Eastern Europe....

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Re: would you live abroad or live in the west?

Post by fschmidt » May 3rd, 2015, 8:58 pm

I don't hate America (the land), I just hate Americans (the people). So I have no problem living in America away from Americans. Where I live now, in El Paso, the population is Mexican. I may move to a farm in rural Texas where the population would be farm animals. Farm animals are far superior to any modern form of humans.

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Post by MarcosZeitola » May 3rd, 2015, 9:02 pm

survivingIncelMan wrote:I know many of us here desire to travel or already traveled abroad to meet better women/wife and to get away from American women. If you are not looking for a wife/girlfriend, would you still live abroad or live in the west?
I married a foreign woman and hope to soon (by the end of this year) live with her, in her country. If I had been a single man, I would still want to move away from the West. But I doubt in a foreign country, I'd be single for long anyway, even if I tried to be. :lol:

It's just a whole different dynamic, the flow of things is different, and there's the whole "starting over with a clean slate" effect that you tend to get. Some people are more focused on their comfort, or have a hard time adjusting to a different culture. Others are very attached to their friends, family and social life at home. These things may hold a man back, or make him hesitate when making a decision of whether or not to move.

Btw, moving abroad to "get away from American woman" is ridiculous. American women are not the problem; American culture is. You don't want to give American women, or any type of women for that matter, that much control over your life's decisions.

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Re: would you live abroad or live in the west?

Post by drealm » May 3rd, 2015, 9:21 pm

The food and architecture is better abroad, but corruption is high, people are unreliable and there's more crime. If you want to be a hermit and build your own house, America has more freedom.

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Post by MarcosZeitola » May 3rd, 2015, 9:25 pm

drealm wrote:The food and architecture is better abroad, but corruption is high, people are unreliable and there's more crime.
You would be a fool to believe America or Europe is less corrupt then third world countries. The different is that, as with all things in the West, the prices are simply higher and the people being bought may be slightly more discreet. At the end of the day, money still rules the world and everyone and anything can be bought.
drealm wrote:If you want to be a hermit and build your own house, America has more freedom.
You can be a hermit and build your own house just fine abroad. But with people being more approachable and generally more positive and easy to talk to, why bother hiding away from society? It's better to go somewhere where being a part of society and mingling with people brings you the greatest joy. Which would be abroad.

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Post by drealm » May 3rd, 2015, 9:40 pm

MarcosZeitola wrote:
You would be a fool to believe America or Europe is less corrupt then third world countries. The different is that, as with all things in the West, the prices are simply higher and the people being bought may be slightly more discreet. At the end of the day, money still rules the world and everyone and anything can be bought.
At the top yes, at the bottom no. Yes banksters are bigger and badder in America. But no one deals with these people face to face, so who cares? I care more about how I'll be treated when I walk into a store, or when I take a taxi. In Mexico I was screwed a little bit in every small transaction I did.
MarcosZeitola wrote:You can be a hermit and build your own house just fine abroad. But with people being more approachable and generally more positive and easy to talk to, why bother hiding away from society? It's better to go somewhere where being a part of society and mingling with people brings you the greatest joy. Which would be abroad.
I agree there's no point to living abroad and being a hermit. Buying property as a foreigner will be a challenge in some places.

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Post by Ghost » May 3rd, 2015, 10:58 pm

survivingIncelMan wrote:I know many of us here desire to travel or already traveled abroad to meet better women/wife and to get away from American women. If you are not looking for a wife/girlfriend, would you still live abroad or live in the west?
I would still want to for at least a portion of my life. Even if you've had a foreign woman and avoid American women, there is still the toxic, feminist, misandrist culture to deal with - remember that it permeates everything: workplaces, churches, homes, schools...virtually everything, and certainly all public spheres. When I lived abroad, the entire feeling was different in this regard. It lessens the potency of whatever poison feminism has injected into your heart. When women will actually smile and be polite, act feminine and sweet, give you the occasional compliment instead of sarcasm...it changes you. I'm pretty cold, but no living man could be left unaffected by living in a non-feminist culture.

The most neutral option will be living as an effective hermit in the West, while the worst option is living in the West in the midst of scumbags.
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Post by QatarDan » May 4th, 2015, 1:13 am

Ideally abroad with a western wage. Live like a king rather than day to day.

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Post by MarcosZeitola » May 4th, 2015, 6:46 pm

Ghost wrote:The most neutral option will be living as an effective hermit in the West.
Being a hermit is hardly "neutral". Loneliness is a pretty miserable existence for the vast majority of people.

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Post by fschmidt » May 4th, 2015, 6:51 pm

I think the best option is to have a small group of like-minded families in relative isolation in rural America. This is what I am hoping for for Biblic Judaism.

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Post by Yohan » May 4th, 2015, 7:05 pm

Would you live abroad or live in the west?

This is not a question with an answer YES or NO.

You can live in both ways, many Scandinavians like the idea to be away to somewhere with cheap prices and warm weather during freezing wintertime and back to their own countries during summertime for seasonal work or for part-time jobs.

Also Russians from Siberia are well-known to use cheap charter flights into Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam to stay there with their families during the harsh winter and to be back again when temperature is more tolerable. Unlike Scandinavians they show however up with their family members, girlfriends etc. and they do not easily mix up with local Asian people.

About myself, I prefer to live abroad, I have no intention even to visit my native country and I am sure in Europe I would be still single.

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Re: would you live abroad or live in the west?

Post by xiongmao » May 4th, 2015, 8:41 pm

Some things are better abroad, some things worse.

The weather is better in Barcelona but I've just suffered my 5th attempted robbery. Jeez, I've only been here 8 weeks. Number of attempted robberies in London: 0. 6 months in Bangkok: 1. China/Japan: 0.

I still like my idea of going home for a year then going back on the road for a year or so. Well god knows what I'll do the 2nd half of this year, but it's been fun so far.
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Re: would you live abroad or live in the west?

Post by Ghost » May 5th, 2015, 12:02 am

MarcosZeitola wrote:
Ghost wrote:The most neutral option will be living as an effective hermit in the West.
Being a hermit is hardly "neutral". Loneliness is a pretty miserable existence for the vast majority of people.
I'm an introvert, so I'm fine with limited social interaction. But of course I do get lonely, mostly for female companionship, which is not an option in America. While in the U.S., I just stay with my family and think of it as solitude from the world. So then I am not a true hermit. Pure isolation and loneliness is bad for anyone. Solitude implies it is beneficial and a choice, which is how I think of my life in America.
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Re: would you live abroad or live in the west?

Post by Wolfeye » May 17th, 2015, 3:52 pm

Well, there is plenty of "abroad" in the west. Everywhere south of the border would qualify, I think.

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