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Re: Why are Filipinos so stupid?

Postby JeyanCalderone » Wed May 27, 2015 6:27 pm

pete98146 wrote:
MustVisitAsia123 wrote:I believe it has to do with the educational system back in the Philippines. It's still a third world country after all, people aren't getting the best resources.


There's your culprit right there! I've talked to my wife on many occasions on this topic and it's evident that what is missing is the "element to succeed and excel" in the Philippines. It's a country that is, for the most part, happy to be just good enough to get bye in almost every facet of life and that's truly sad.

I can also tell you that this creates HUGE and I mean HUGE levels of resentment for those smarter Filipinos that do escape Philippines towards their own country...my wife included. They feel cheated that they never had the ability to grow up on a society in which having the ability to flex ones mental muscles is rewarded/encouraged.

Many Filipinos that move abroad are able to climb the ranks of society using their brainpower because they are given an opportunity to succeed. So no, not all Filipinos are stupid.


The fact is Winston Wu is fat and ugly despite his bragging that Chinese genes are superior. Winston, you're a fat old guy who made a baby with a Filipino bargirl prostitute. That's nothing to brag about. You're fat Winston.
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Re: Why are Filipinos so stupid?

Postby Rock » Wed May 27, 2015 6:34 pm

pete98146 wrote:
MustVisitAsia123 wrote:I believe it has to do with the educational system back in the Philippines. It's still a third world country after all, people aren't getting the best resources.


There's your culprit right there! I've talked to my wife on many occasions on this topic and it's evident that what is missing is the "element to succeed and excel" in the Philippines. It's a country that is, for the most part, happy to be just good enough to get bye in almost every facet of life and that's truly sad.

I can also tell you that this creates HUGE and I mean HUGE levels of resentment for those smarter Filipinos that do escape Philippines towards their own country...my wife included. They feel cheated that they never had the ability to grow up on a society in which having the ability to flex ones mental muscles is rewarded/encouraged.

Many Filipinos that move abroad are able to climb the ranks of society using their brainpower because they are given an opportunity to succeed. So no, not all Filipinos are stupid.


I hear Winston's son is first in his class and earning awards and scholarships already. So maybe he'll be one of those 'smart' Filipinos.
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Re: Why are Filipinos so stupid?

Postby JeyanCalderone » Wed May 27, 2015 6:41 pm

Rock wrote:
pete98146 wrote:
MustVisitAsia123 wrote:I believe it has to do with the educational system back in the Philippines. It's still a third world country after all, people aren't getting the best resources.


There's your culprit right there! I've talked to my wife on many occasions on this topic and it's evident that what is missing is the "element to succeed and excel" in the Philippines. It's a country that is, for the most part, happy to be just good enough to get bye in almost every facet of life and that's truly sad.

I can also tell you that this creates HUGE and I mean HUGE levels of resentment for those smarter Filipinos that do escape Philippines towards their own country...my wife included. They feel cheated that they never had the ability to grow up on a society in which having the ability to flex ones mental muscles is rewarded/encouraged.

Many Filipinos that move abroad are able to climb the ranks of society using their brainpower because they are given an opportunity to succeed. So no, not all Filipinos are stupid.


I hear Winston's son is first in his class and earning awards and scholarships already. So maybe he'll be one of those 'smart' Filipinos.


Dianne was the top of her class at bargirl school sucking white cocks for pesos.
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Re: Why are Filipinos so stupid?

Postby Moretorque » Wed May 27, 2015 11:41 pm

They want the whole entire planet not to be very smart, kinda like a pet who can do the tricks you want but nothing more.
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Re: Why are Filipinos so stupid?

Postby publicduende » Thu May 28, 2015 12:45 am

pete98146 wrote:There's your culprit right there! I've talked to my wife on many occasions on this topic and it's evident that what is missing is the "element to succeed and excel" in the Philippines. It's a country that is, for the most part, happy to be just good enough to get bye in almost every facet of life and that's truly sad.

I can also tell you that this creates HUGE and I mean HUGE levels of resentment for those smarter Filipinos that do escape Philippines towards their own country...my wife included. They feel cheated that they never had the ability to grow up on a society in which having the ability to flex ones mental muscles is rewarded/encouraged.

Many Filipinos that move abroad are able to climb the ranks of society using their brainpower because they are given an opportunity to succeed. So no, not all Filipinos are stupid.


I beg to disagree, Pete. I have met a lot of very smart Filipinos/as who speak multiple languages, are worldly and refined and had college and professional development matching or exceeding that of an average American or European. I don't think Filipino society is one that can be singled out as not encouraging or rewarding flexing mental muscles. A good testimony is the sheer number of young people from poor or working class families who have to go through incredible hoops to give themselves a tertiary education, even a small 2-year diploma. Like most Asian countries, Filipinos know how important culture and education are for their future and that of their families. Only, in a country where credit isn't abundant (and thanks God!) and the public government only subsidises a tiny handful of talented kids (Philippines Science, UP, etc.), what chances of success can they actually earn out of their own efforts alone?

You actually say it in that final sentence: most Filipinos are never given an opportunity to develop themselves intellectually and aspirationally, which is not a necessary (yet not sufficient) condition for their success in life. Or well, whatever passes as success by current Western standards.

Yet, one good thing I have to admit: whether by nature or nurture, intellectual mediocrity or plain resignation, one can see many more genuinely happy faces on a Filipino province street in a single afternoon than around a big Western metropolis in a year.
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Re: Why are Filipinos so stupid?

Postby publicduende » Thu May 28, 2015 12:49 am

JeyanCalderone wrote:Dianne was the top of her class at bargirl school sucking white cocks for pesos.


Mate, you walk, smell and quack like that fake Fil-Am nutter who wanted to pass as Franco (the rockstar) and an anonymous hottie as his "Italian" gf. How many lame attempts before you give up?
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Re: Why are Filipinos so stupid?

Postby Dragon » Thu May 28, 2015 3:51 am

publicduende wrote:
JeyanCalderone wrote:Dianne was the top of her class at bargirl school sucking white cocks for pesos.


Mate, you walk, smell and quack like that fake Fil-Am nutter who wanted to pass as Franco (the rockstar) and an anonymous hottie as his "Italian" gf. How many lame attempts before you give up?


I don't understand people who troll on such small forums. Do they have personality disorders of some kind?
I am a terrible person.
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Re: Why are Filipinos so stupid?

Postby Yohan » Thu May 28, 2015 4:39 am

publicduende wrote:I beg to disagree, Pete. I have met a lot of very smart Filipinos/as who speak multiple languages, are worldly and refined and had college and professional development matching or exceeding that of an average American or European.

..... most Filipinos are never given an opportunity to develop themselves intellectually


I am just back from Philippines. When I saw my Filipina foster daughter the first time, 8 years old, homeless, in rags, suffering of malnutrition and other illnesses, never been in a school, severely mistreated and abandoned by her parents, I was thinking she will never pass even public elementary school - but she did, with only 1 year delay.

Later on, with the help of a tutor for 2 years, she passed a private high school, for the remaining 2 years, no tutor was required.
Now she is in the 3rd year in Sto. Carlos University, passed any exam so far.

It's about the money, even if intelligent children have the best parents, but their families have only a modest income, then higher education is not possible for them. Just too expensive, no ordinary Filipino family can pay for that.

Another serious issue in Philippines is health care. Private health insurance can be expensive even for young people, who are often jobless or on part-time, by far too much to pay for that. Pay cash or die early...

If you see my foster daughter now, you would not believe about her past.
Do not ask me how much I spent for my Filipina foster daughter during the last 12 years.

The Philippine government and the wealthy Filipino society are not much willing to do anything for ordinary people.
They are also not helpful to individual foreigners willing to assist their children living in poverty. They just don't care what is going on around them, they lost any feeling, any contact to poor people.

It took me years to regulate all required procedures, like the issue of personal documents (birth was never registered), removing custody rights of the parents by court order with the help of the welfare department (despite her parents did not object and considered their child anyway as abandoned), accepted by a private health insurance (was refused as too sick, underweight etc.), accepted in private schools (no marriage certificate of parents, no baptismal certificate), creating a home with a land title to get her away from a status as a squatter etc. etc. etc.
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Re: Why are Filipinos so stupid?

Postby BlackKnight » Thu May 28, 2015 7:01 am

That's a good idea Yohan, sponsor a Filipina foster kid then show up years later for that ass lol
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Re: Why are Filipinos so stupid?

Postby Yohan » Thu May 28, 2015 8:29 am

BlackKnight wrote:That's a good idea Yohan, sponsor a Filipina foster kid then show up years later for that a** lol


I have no intention to do that. This is not a boyfriend/girlfriend connection.
This is a father/daughter relationship and will remain so in future.
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Re: Why are Filipinos so stupid?

Postby starchild5 » Thu May 28, 2015 9:54 am

The guy is the same old troll..I thought Winston already banned him ??
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Re: Why are Filipinos so stupid?

Postby Winston » Thu May 28, 2015 10:46 am

When Philosophical Filipino (JeyanCalderone) first came here, his intro post contained a lot of good info about why the Philippines went down so much. Check it out. How could he be intelligent yet so psycho at the same time?

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Re: Why are Filipinos so stupid?

Postby Winston » Thu May 28, 2015 12:17 pm

Dragon wrote:
JeyanCalderone wrote:
Winston wrote:Some researchers in race and genetics have said that in hot humid climates, people can live off the land, so they don't need to be smart to survive and reproduce. So the stupidest people can pass on their genes. But in colder climates like Europe or Russia, it requires intelligent management of resources, so only intelligent people pass on their genes. There are published papers on this. If you want to see them, I can show you links. They are posted in other threads.


Winston, please provide links and evidence on the research. I want the scientific proof to show to other Filipinos so their monkey brains will explode! Just joking. Monkeys are actually intelligent.

The most beautiful girls I ever had sex with were Mestiza Filipinas (mixed Eurasian blood). They were always horny. God bless them.


It is called the Cold Winters Theory:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289614001019

BTW, are the Mestiza filipinas you were talking about also dumb as bricks?


Really? I thought it was called the Race Evolution theory that explains the different IQ's of different races. See below.

http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/JP_Rushton/Race.htm

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Out of Africa

The latest theory of human origins -- Out-of-
Africa -- provides the final piece to the
puzzle. It explains why r-K theory accounts
for race differences in body, brain, and
behavior. As races moved out of Africa they
evolved away from r-type behaviors and
toward K-type. Moving out of Africa meant
increasing brain size and IQ, but
lowering reproduction, aggression
and sexual activity.

Based on his theory of evolution, Charles Darwin thought Africa was “the cradle of mankind.�
He did not have any fossils from Africa to support his theory but he concluded that humans came from
Africa based on watching the chimpanzee and the gorilla. If the African apes were our closest living
relatives, it made sense that humans first evolved on the only continent where all three species lived.
Evidence from genetics, the fossil record, and archaeology have since all proved Darwin correct.
The human line began with the African fossil species called Australopithecus. Later human ancestors
Homo erectus and then Homo sapiens also appeared first in Africa.
Homo sapiens were fully human. They were in Africa less than 200,000 years ago. Moving to the
Middle East about 100,000 years ago, they then spread out across the world. They replaced the
Neanderthal and Homo erectus groups they met either by fighting or competing for food.
When modern humans left Africa they began to develop the racial traits we see today by adapting
to the new regions and climates. The first split in the human line took place about 100,000 years ago
between groups that remained in Africa (ancestors to modern Blacks) and those who left Africa. Then
about 40,000 years ago the group that left Africa divided once again, into the ancestors of today’s Whites
and Orientals.
This history of moving first out of Africa into Europe and then later into East Asia explains why
Whites fall in between Orientals and Blacks on the life history variables. The split between Africans and
non-Africans happened first, almost twice as early as the split between Orientals and Whites.
The Out of Africa theory explains the good fit between the r-K life history traits and race
differences. It is hard to survive in Africa. Africa has unpredictable droughts and deadly diseases that
spread quickly. More Africans than Asians or Europeans die young -- often from tropical disease. In these
African conditions, parental care is a less certain way of making sure a child will survive. A better
strategy is simply to have more children. This tilts their life history toward the r-end of the r-K scale. A
more r-strategy means not only more offspring and less parental care. It also means less culture is passed
from parent to child, and this tends to reduce the intellectual demands needed to function in the culture.
And the process continues from one generation to the next.
In contrast, the humans migrating to Eurasia faced entirely new problems -- gathering and storing
food, providing shelter, making clothes, and raising children during the long winters. These tasks were
more mentally demanding. They called for larger brains and slower growth rates. They permitted lower
levels of sex hormones, resulting in less sexual potency and aggression and more family stability and
longevity. Leaving the tropics for the northern continents meant leaving the r-strategy for the K-strategy -
- and all that went with it.
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The Evidence

How can we know if the Out of Africa theory is true? To answer that question, we have to look at
the evidence from genetics, paleontology, and archaeology.
The History and Geography of Human Genes (1994) by Luigi Cavalli-Sforza and his colleagues
looks at thousands of genetic DNA comparisons of the races. Geneticists count the number of gene
mutations in each group to measure which groups are most closely related and when the groups split from
one another. These DNA studies support the Out of Africa theory that the split between Africans and all
other groups was the first to take place.
Fossils of prehistoric humans tell us that early steps in our evolution took place in Africa. Homo
sapiens lived in Africa between 200,000 and 100,000 years ago, but they only reached the Middle East
about 100,000 years ago. Earlier hominids such as the Neanderthals were very different from modern
humans. They had faces that jut further forward and they had larger front teeth than any living Europeans,
Africans, or East Asians. Neanderthals had denser bones, thicker skulls, and more pronounced brow
ridges than any modern humans. By comparison, all living humans are alike, despite our race differences.
Archaeology tells us the same story. The crude, Early Stone Age culture (termed Lower
Paleolithic) of Homo erectus, existed more than one million years before Homo sapiens appeared. The
Early Stone Age tool kit had hand-axes, choppers, and cleavers, all very similar in shape. However, the
Middle Stone Age tool kit of the Neanderthals (termed Middle Paleolithic) included more advanced stone
tools and the use of bone.
When modern humans first appeared on the scene 100,000 years ago, things started to change in
major ways. The Late Stone Age tool kit (termed Upper Paleolithic) was highly specialized. It consisted
of thinner blades struck off of stone cores to make knives, spear barbs, scrapers and cutters. Standardized
bone and antler tools appeared in the tool kit for the first time, including needles for sewing fur clothes.
The Late Stone Age tool kit contained tools made of several parts tied or glued together. Spear points
were set in shafts and ax heads in handles. Rope was used to make nets to trap foxes, rabbits, and other
small animals. Advanced weapons like barbed harpoons, darts, spear-throwers, and bows and arrows gave
Late Stone Age people the ability to kill animals from a safe distance.
Survival in Northeast Asia about 40,000 years ago also required warm clothing. Archeologists
have found needles, cave paintings of parkas, and grave ornaments marking the outlines of shirts and
trousers. We know that warm furs were worn. Fox and wolf skeletons missing their paws tell us that these
animals were skinned to make fur clothes. Houses were dug into the ground to provide insulation. These
large dwellings were marked by post holes and had walls made from mammoth bones. Fireplaces and
stone lamps were used to light the long Arctic winter night.

Geography and Race

Africa is warmer than the northern continents, but it is a less stable habitat. Droughts, storms, and
diseases from viruses, bacteria, and parasites cause high death rates, even today. Without modern medical
care, insuring survival in Africa means having many young (r-strategy). In the more stable environments
of Europe and Asia, survival is insured from having fewer young, but caring for them very well (Kstrategy).
The environment of Eurasia produced physical differences between the races. Northern Europe’s
cloudiness meant less sunshine. This decreased the intake of vitamin D, so lighter skin and hair were
needed to let more sunlight get in. As a result, Europeans born with lighter skin and hair were healthier.
They had more chance of having children who would survive and reproduce.
East Asia was even colder than North Europe, but with less cloud cover and more sunlight. There
a thicker layer of fat helped to insulate against the cold. This gives many Orientals a so-called “yellow�
complexion because it reduces the visibility of red blood vessels close to the skin. Meanwhile in Africa
melanin gives the skin a black color to protect it from the scorching rays of the sun.
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Climate differences also influenced mental abilities. In Africa, food and warmth were available
all year round. To survive the cold winters, the populations migrating northwards had to become more
inventive. They had to find new sources of food and methods for storing it. They needed to make clothing
and shelters to protect against the elements. Without them the people would have died. Both parents had
to provide more care to help their young survive in the harsher climates.
Whites and Orientals in Eurasia had to find food and keep warm in the colder climates. In the
tropics, plant foods were plentiful all year round. In Europe and Asia they were seasonal and could not be
found during many winter and spring months.
To survive the long winters, the ancestors of today's Whites and Orientals made complex tools
and weapons to fish and hunt animals. They made spearheads that could kill big game from a greater
distance and knives for cutting and skinning. Fires, clothes and shelters were made for warmth. Bone
needles were used to sew animal skins together and shelters were made from large bones and skins.
Making special tools, fires, clothing and shelters called for higher intelligence. Moving “Out of
Africa� meant moving into a K-type life-history strategy. That meant higher IQ, larger brains, slower
growth, and lower hormone levels. It also meant lower levels of sexuality, aggression, and impulsive
behavior. More family stability, advanced planning, self-control, rule-following, and longevity were
needed.

Conclusion

Fossil records, archaeology, and genetic DNA studies of the living races support Charles
Darwin’s insight that we evolved in Africa. Humans then spread to the Middle East, Europe, Asia,
Australia, and then to the Americas. As humans left Africa, their bodies, brains and behavior changed. To
deal with the colder winters and scarcer food supply of Europe and Northeast Asia, the Oriental and
White races moved away from an r-strategy toward the K-strategy. This meant more parenting and social
organization, which required a larger brain size and a higher IQ.

Additional Readings

Cavalli-Sforza, L. L., Menozzi, P., & Piazza, A. (1994). The History and Geography of Human Genes.
Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press.
Stringer, C. & McKie, R. (1996). African Exodus. London: Cape.
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Re: Why are Filipinos so stupid?

Postby starchild5 » Thu May 28, 2015 2:28 pm

Winston wrote:When Philosophical Filipino (JeyanCalderone) first came here, his intro post contained a lot of good info about why the Philippines went down so much. Check it out. How could he be intelligent yet so psycho at the same time?

viewtopic.php?t=11595


He copied that from Anti Pinoy website comparing with Korea. Anti Pinoy is filipino American and he writes highly intellectual stuff criticizing Philippines but in a very logical way..

http://antipinoy.com/
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Re: Why are Filipinos so stupid?

Postby davewe » Thu May 28, 2015 4:13 pm

This is such a tough issue and I've written about it before. Overall I don't find Filipinos to be stupid - or at least don't find them to be stupider than Americans, which is sad since we have huge opportunities to be smarter and better educated. There are various forms of intelligence (book learnin' vs. common sense, for example) and I can't say that just because someone doesn't have a great deal of education that makes them stupid.

That being said, in my modest experience I think Filipino families do emphasize education. Higher education is tougher to obtain there (money) than it is in the US, but in the US almost every kid who gets a degree, spends half of his life paying off student loans - how smart is that!

As an older guy I went to college at the tail end of an era in which education was considered valuable in and of itself; that knowledge and dare I say wisdom was its own reward. That era is long gone. Today kids go to college to make money. I'm not sure that that makes them any smarter; in fact I'm pretty sure it does not.

Point being that a kid in the Philippines can get a high school or college diploma and end up unable to make any money. My wife got a BS degree and her goal was to work in a call center. That's as high as she thought she could aspire to financially. Me? I have no degree but work as a software engineer making a tad more than a call center girl :)

I don't have any easy answers, only questions. Are people stupider or just poorer. In the first world we are so used to equating success with money with smarts and power that we almost intuitively assume someone in the 3rd world is inferior and dumber.

I had the opportunity to go to a hospital in the Philippines last month after a minor accident. Got treated by a bright, young doctor. Was he smart and educated - hell yes. Am I richer by a large factor than he - again hell yes. Does that make me smarter? Nope but it's easy to come away with that impression and I bet a bright young Filipino doctor might aspire to taking his education abroad where the fruits of his education are more fruitful.

Again more questions than answers, but I will add one more. If Filipinos are so much dumber than us how come so many of us complain about getting cheated and scammed by them?
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