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How do normal men find wives or girlfriends in America?

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Re: How do normal men find wives or girlfriends in America?

Postby zboy1 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:11 pm

Winston wrote:I have another theory and explanation:

My friend Rock told me that he finds white American girls to be intimidating and scary, which causes him to feel withdrawn. But when he is in Asia, he can easily be social and talkative with Asian girls and be himself. So he's not like that with all girls, just with white girls. This might contain an important clue here.

It seems that if you are a HIGHLY SENSITIVE guy, you won't vibe well with white American girls for some reason. You cannot talk to them on the same channel and wavelength. They rub you the wrong way. Even if they are friendly and like you, it's still hard to feel comfortable around them. It's hard to explain in words. But I feel the same way. Besides being fake and not down-to-earth, there is something about them that "pushes our buttons" in the wrong ways that causes us to feel uncomfortable and intimidated. We simply can't be ourselves or feel comfortable around them or even have a decent conversation with them.

The thing is, when I talk to Rock in person or on the phone, I feel that he and I are on the same "radio station" or "frequency". It's like we are tuned in to the same wavelength on the same channel. But white American women seem to be on another wavelength in some bizarro world.

It's kind of like a shy timid cat trying to vibe with an extroverted dog. That's the best way I can put it. An extroverted dog is going to intimidate a shy timid cat. They aren't going to be attracted to each other and will not have any chemistry. Both will think the other is WEIRD and rub each other the wrong way. It's like oil and water trying to mix.

Do you guys understand what I mean? Do any of you feel the same way?

So the point is: If you are HIGHLY SENSITIVE, withdrawn and introverted, you just won't feel comfortable socially in America and especially around white American girls. They are like on some white trash frequency that we don't know how to vibe with or connect with at all. Know what I mean?


I guess I feel the same way as Rock. I don't feel scared to be myself in Asia, whereas in the States, I feel like I have to act like a douchebag to get girls to like me.

But I never had problems getting some American girls to like me, as I've always had interest from girls of all races in the States. (You can even ask Winston--I'm not an ugly guy.) It's just that I tended to be less aggressive due to fear of being labeled a 'rapist' or a 'creepy dude' by crazy male-hating females in the U.S. ...But lately, even in China, the girls are starting to become increasingly materialistic, picky and demanding as girls back home.
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Re: How do normal men find wives or girlfriends in America?

Postby BlackKnight » Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:40 pm

GoingAwol wrote:What do my looks have to do with anything? I'm an average looking guy.


**autism detected**

One of your problems is you're *average* and probably OLD. Why would someone want to befriend you? Average = BORING. If looks, age, status don't matter, go hang out at an OLD folks house. You'll meet plenty of people who tell you about their long boring lifes and share their dogmatic ideas that will never change.
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Re: How do normal men find wives or girlfriends in America?

Postby GoingAwol » Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:55 pm

BlackKnight wrote:
GoingAwol wrote:What do my looks have to do with anything? I'm an average looking guy.


**autism detected**

One of your problems is you're *average* and probably OLD. Why would someone want to befriend you? Average = BORING. If looks, age, status don't matter, go hang out at an OLD folks house. You'll meet plenty of people who tell you about their long boring lifes and share their dogmatic ideas that will never change.

Wrong. I'm 24. What do my looks have to do with people generally being unfriendly in the U.S? Keep in mind I'm not just talking about age appropriate women I'd like to date. Im talking about people in general. As Winston has said many times. people are very cliquish in the U.S and I agree with him on that 110%.
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Re: How do normal men find wives or girlfriends in America?

Postby chanta76 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:14 am

Winston,

It sounds to me Rock is insecure around white girls ...I don't think its vibe per say . Perhaps he has this superiority complex around Asian girls. I find that some white guys are like that when they are in Asia. They feel like Asian girls won't reject them so the are more at ease but with white girls they feel insecure.
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Re: How do normal men find wives or girlfriends in America?

Postby chanta76 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:53 am

going awol,

You should visit the wealthier Asian countries (South Korea, Japan) it's also very cliquish too..I think it's more with how wealthy the country is. The more wealthy the country gets people just act more spoiled or stuck up. Where as in the poorer country there is more of need community sense.
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Re: How do normal men find wives or girlfriends in America?

Postby ricklee » Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:10 am

How do normal men find wives or girlfriends in America? I will speak from my personal experience as an Asian American male.

1. Public places: - I met a girl I almost married at a coffee shop a long time ago. She looked at me, I looked at her, she sat close to me and I started to talk to her. I know her to this day and has become one of my best friends.

2. Work environment. - I've slept with women from my office job back in the days.

3. High school/College environment. - I had my first American girlfriend in HS, there was lots of flirting back in those days. In College however I never hooked up with anyone, it was an absolute zero for me. There were a couple of interests but never made it anywhere, as in I didn't even get to first base.

4. Extracurricular groups and activities. - Don't do those, but I'd recommend hiking or one of those meet ups with single women. If you're half decent, you should be meeting women.

5. Social groups/cliques. - Same as #4

6. Bars and clubs. - I went to lots of clubs in my early 20's, made out with dozens of random girls and had sex with a couple of those. One of them ended up being my first real girlfriend.. almost married her too.

7. Online dating. - This one is easy.. I've met and slept with almost couple of hundred women using a mix of personals from aol, excite, craigslist, adult ff, hot or not, yahoo, etc. I even married one!

8. Church groups. - Don't do those but my ex-wife was Mormon. Assuming I was a believer, it would be again relatively easier to meet women in a church and only again if you're a decent looking man with acceptable social skills.

So in all, America has been good to me.. it's a great place to have lots of partners, to marry is another question.
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Re: How do normal men find wives or girlfriends in America?

Postby Winston » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:43 am

BlackKnight wrote:
GoingAwol wrote:What do my looks have to do with anything? I'm an average looking guy.


**autism detected**

One of your problems is you're *average* and probably OLD. Why would someone want to befriend you? Average = BORING. If looks, age, status don't matter, go hang out at an OLD folks house. You'll meet plenty of people who tell you about their long boring lifes and share their dogmatic ideas that will never change.


None of us are average. Average people don't come here. They are busy working and raising families and do not seek freedom and are not freethinkers. They also believe everything they hear on the news. That's definitely not us.

When i was 19 I went around college everyday trying to meet girls to no avail. Age has nothing to do with this.

What does autism have to do with this? Look it up. The definitions of it do not say that not being able to find friends is a symptom. The book "bowling alone" says the problem is lack of community in America.

I've seen your photo and you are below average and very dark skinned. Should I post your photo here?
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Re: How do normal men find wives or girlfriends in America?

Postby Winston » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:46 am

chanta76 wrote:Winston,

It sounds to me Rock is insecure around white girls ...I don't think its vibe per say . Perhaps he has this superiority complex around Asian girls. I find that some white guys are like that when they are in Asia. They feel like Asian girls won't reject them so the are more at ease but with white girls they feel insecure.


No you are just speculating. I know him. He has no superiority complex and is not arrogant. He acts modest and low key. Yeah he does argue and debate a lot but it's not out of arrogance. It's just his personality.

He is intimidated by white western girls cause they act masculine and toxic and fake and are hard to connect with, as I explained. Why is that hard for you to understand? White girls aren't down to earth and aren't modest. Why would they be easy to vibe with if you are down to earth yourself? Think about it. We all know this. Why don't you?
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Re: How do normal men find wives or girlfriends in America?

Postby Winston » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:48 am

ricklee wrote:How do normal men find wives or girlfriends in America? I will speak from my personal experience as an Asian American male.

1. Public places: - I met a girl I almost married at a coffee shop a long time ago. She looked at me, I looked at her, she sat close to me and I started to talk to her. I know her to this day and has become one of my best friends.

2. Work environment. - I've slept with women from my office job back in the days.

3. High school/College environment. - I had my first American girlfriend in HS, there was lots of flirting back in those days. In College however I never hooked up with anyone, it was an absolute zero for me. There were a couple of interests but never made it anywhere, as in I didn't even get to first base.

4. Extracurricular groups and activities. - Don't do those, but I'd recommend hiking or one of those meet ups with single women. If you're half decent, you should be meeting women.

5. Social groups/cliques. - Same as #4

6. Bars and clubs. - I went to lots of clubs in my early 20's, made out with dozens of random girls and had sex with a couple of those. One of them ended up being my first real girlfriend.. almost married her too.

7. Online dating. - This one is easy.. I've met and slept with almost couple of hundred women using a mix of personals from aol, excite, craigslist, adult ff, hot or not, yahoo, etc. I even married one!

8. Church groups. - Don't do those but my ex-wife was Mormon. Assuming I was a believer, it would be again relatively easier to meet women in a church and only again if you're a decent looking man with acceptable social skills.

So in all, America has been good to me.. it's a great place to have lots of partners, to marry is another question.


Yeah but Rick Lee, I've seen your photos and you look like an asian version of superman. You look better than Jason Scott Lee even. You don't represent the average asian guy. Far from it. If you looked like me you wouldn't have even gotten a tenth of those results. Guaranteed.
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Re: How do normal men find wives or girlfriends in America?

Postby Banano » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:33 am

"7. Online dating. - This one is easy.. I've met and slept with almost couple of hundred women using a mix of personals from aol, excite, craigslist, adult ff, hot or not, yahoo, etc. I even married one!"

Wow. If this is true then you must have looks, online dating is all abt looks and nothing but looks and unless you have that girls wont even bother wastin time talking to you.

You are not average by any strech of imagination, you could probably put you pic up on pof and by tomorrow morning you ll have a few girls interested in you.

Experiments had been done about this and it pretty much confirms that being hot get you plenty of girls without any effort.

Online option is out for majority of us.
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Re: How do normal men find wives or girlfriends in America?

Postby chanta76 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:58 pm

Winston,


.I mean you complained about how middle class Philippine women are tough to break into or how there are challenges even in Taiwan..

.I can even say that Japan and South Korea has allot of cliques and some of those Asian girls will act stuck up.

At the same time you mentioned that White Russian girls are easy to chat up with but it doesn't necessary lead to anything deep. Your words...not mine.

I think you will have stuck up girls mostly in the rich develop countries but I don't know if I agree with the over generalization that ALL WHITE GIRLS are like this or that..if that was the case than nobody will be getting married or getting laid.

I think the guys that post here on this forum on the average are probably not that physically attractive (I mean this as no offensive) or too old and bitter(from past relationship but at one point was able to get a girl).
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Re: How do normal men find wives or girlfriends in America?

Postby chanta76 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:00 pm

ricklee,

is this ricklee who does that porn site or poser?
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Re: How do normal men find wives or girlfriends in America?

Postby BlackKnight » Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:05 pm

GoingAwol wrote:
BlackKnight wrote:
GoingAwol wrote:What do my looks have to do with anything? I'm an average looking guy.


**autism detected**

One of your problems is you're *average* and probably OLD. Why would someone want to befriend you? Average = BORING. If looks, age, status don't matter, go hang out at an OLD folks house. You'll meet plenty of people who tell you about their long boring lifes and share their dogmatic ideas that will never change.

Wrong. I'm 24. What do my looks have to do with people generally being unfriendly in the U.S? Keep in mind I'm not just talking about age appropriate women I'd like to date. Im talking about people in general. As Winston has said many times. people are very cliquish in the U.S and I agree with him on that 110%.


I said *probably*. You obviously have a low IQ which is why you cannot nail a basic detail. Just ask yourself this: What do you have to offer someone? Why would someone want to chat with you? You're just some random guy with nothing really going for yourself. Moreover, you don't even have hollywood good looks to top it off. Now If you got out of the basement and starting building stuff, you'd realized pretty quickly that you don't have time for losers.
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Re: How do normal men find wives or girlfriends in America?

Postby BlackKnight » Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:44 pm

Winston wrote:
BlackKnight wrote:
GoingAwol wrote:What do my looks have to do with anything? I'm an average looking guy.


**autism detected**

One of your problems is you're *average* and probably OLD. Why would someone want to befriend you? Average = BORING. If looks, age, status don't matter, go hang out at an OLD folks house. You'll meet plenty of people who tell you about their long boring lifes and share their dogmatic ideas that will never change.


None of us are average. Average people don't come here. They are busy working and raising families and do not seek freedom and are not freethinkers. They also believe everything they hear on the news. That's definitely not us.

What does autism have to do with this? Look it up. The definitions of it do not say that not being able to find friends is a symptom. The book "bowling alone" says the problem is lack of community in America.


The word average also refers to the **median***. In society you have crazy, brain dead, thinkers, etc. On the this website, you get more of the crazy side. Being a freethinker is being able to direct domination inward to gain self-mastery. Everything on here is outward facing i.e.

When i was 19 I went around college everyday trying to meet girls to no avail. Age has nothing to do with this.


What the f**k did you think was going to happen? You went to vocational school for $40,000 a year. You didn't go to some liberal arts school where people are interested in philosophy and other shit. It's like some guy complaining about going to auto school and not finding people interested in William Shakespeare. If you're at a vocational school, what matters is your looks, status and dick size.

I've seen your photo and you are below average and very dark skinned. Should I post your photo here?


Yes, and this coming from a guy that looks like the new R2D2:

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It really makes you look bad when an below average guy (lol) with very dark skinned can pull women with absolutely no problem. What's wrong with you? lol

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