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Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause?

Postby Winston » Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:07 pm

I have a deep question that we should all ask. I know this isn't an easy question to answer, but still you gotta wonder about it. The question is:

Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause or problem? How come other people are able to thrive in America -- get married, raise children, establish a career or steady job, etc? What's the difference between us and them?

I know we've all postulated the following explanations:

-- We are too authentic and down to earth and don't fit into the fake American culture or social life.
-- We are nonconformists and freethinkers who don't fit into the system.
-- We are introverts in an extroverted society like the US that doesn't understand us.
-- We have aspergers syndrome and therefore are classified as having a "mental disorder".
-- We lack social skills or "game" and don't know how to "act cool".
-- We hate trash culture or mindless entertainment such as sports, reality TV shows, modern music, degenerate culture, tattoos, etc.
-- We are simply unattractive in both looks and personality.
-- We are nerds and geeks.

And even some deeper explanations that are esoteric in nature:

-- We are reactionaries who belong to the old order and do not fit into the modern world of liberalism and socialism espoused by the New World Order.
-- We are old souls that had past lives in conservative societies of the past and do not fit into the modern liberal world of the New World Order with all its "equal rights", liberalism, political correctness, socialism, women's rights, feminism, emasculation of men, etc.
-- Our souls are from another world or dimension, not this one.
-- Since the famous psychic Edgar Cayce said that Americans are the reincarnation of the Atlanteans who were destroyed for their wickedness in a cataclysm, and since Lemuria was the polar opposite of Atlantis and its enemy, maybe we are the reincarnated souls of the Lemurians, and that's why we don't vibe with the Atlanteans?
Etc.

But still, even if any of those are true, is there a deeper root cause? Why are we different? How come we aren't like normal mainstream people who don't ask these questions and just focus on their jobs and raising families like "normal" people do? Why do we have to resort to HappierAbroad but mainstream normal guys don't?

I know that's not an easy question to answer, but still, as a philosophical truth seeker, I have to ask it and seek answers. Do any of you wonder about the same thing? Do you find yourself asking such questions too? If so, have you come up with any insights?
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Re: Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause?

Postby starchild5 » Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:29 pm

The reason is due to darkness...."Conspiracy theorist" - Truth Seekers are always never found in one family...Our parents are by design asleep and different...You will never find 10 conspiracy theorist in the same street..logic would state that like minded souls would be born in same places etc...

but truth seekers etc are born the furthest apart by design...This whole system is designed to keep like minded souls away....for more suffering...Don't fall for the con that you are on earth to learn, so by suffering you will learn etc BS created by Jews....while they make billions and live in mansions :lol: :lol:

Believe it or not...The only women who understood me was an American women I met in Germany but as you have experienced...it was at the end of journey for me....had i met her before i would have never left...i already resigned from the company when I met her..this is all by design...

Had she being born in India as my neighbor...I wouldn't have to suffer so much BS

I wish the entire conspiracy, truth seekers etc would have been born in the same place itself or later even...like the hippie movement...but they then won't allow it...10 like minded souls to meet in one place is BIG NO NO for them...

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All mis fits are never born in the same place is the question we need to be asking...they are all put IN among the "Sane" :)
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Re: Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause?

Postby Yohan » Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:04 pm

Winston wrote:I have a deep question that we should all ask. I know this isn't an easy question to answer, but still you gotta wonder about it. The question is:

Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause or problem? How come other people are able to thrive in America -- get married, raise children, establish a career or steady job, etc? What's the difference between us and them? ...


Why it works for some and for others not? I think, it is merely the matter of good or bad luck, and not much what you as a man can do about it.

Some are lucky, and their marriage is stable, others are unlucky and the wife leaves, what can you do about it?
Same about jobs, some are lucky, and the company remains stable, while other companies disappear, what can an ordinary employee do about it? Nothing, if you ask me.

USA is maybe more difficult to handle compared to Europe, as there is no really good social network existing and a lot of racist BS is going on. In USA, it's about a toxic environment where nobody cares about the other.
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Re: Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause?

Postby fschmidt » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:25 pm

We are good and they are evil.
Following the Old Testament, not evil modern culture
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Re: Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause?

Postby Jester » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:49 am

starchild5 wrote:
...but they then won't allow it...10 like minded souls to meet in one place is BIG NO NO for them...

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Re: Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause?

Postby Jester » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:52 am

fschmidt wrote:We are good and they are evil.


Objectively, this would seem to be true.

But then I think, if I'm all God's got, then He's got problems.
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Re: Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause?

Postby Winston » Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:52 am

Yohan wrote:
Winston wrote:I have a deep question that we should all ask. I know this isn't an easy question to answer, but still you gotta wonder about it. The question is:

Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause or problem? How come other people are able to thrive in America -- get married, raise children, establish a career or steady job, etc? What's the difference between us and them? ...


Why it works for some and for others not? I think, it is merely the matter of good or bad luck, and not much what you as a man can do about it.

Some are lucky, and their marriage is stable, others are unlucky and the wife leaves, what can you do about it?
Same about jobs, some are lucky, and the company remains stable, while other companies disappear, what can an ordinary employee do about it? Nothing, if you ask me.

USA is maybe more difficult to handle compared to Europe, as there is no really good social network existing and a lot of racist BS is going on. In USA, it's about a toxic environment where nobody cares about the other.


That's true. Luck and fate are often controlled by forces we can't see or explain. Americans are delusional in thinking that everything in controllable, that's what they want to believe but that isn't necessarily what's true.

It's also possible that we simply haven't found wives in America because we aren't meant to. If something is meant to be, it will happen naturally in the course of everyday events in your life. So the normal guys who have wives in America, whether they are happy or not, have not done anything special that you or I haven't done. It was simply meant to be. It was part of their destiny. So it happened.

If something is meant to be, it will happen. If it's not meant to be, it won't happen or it will go wrong. That's the pattern I've found.

It could also be that some people simply don't like to be attached to others, so they subconsciously sabotage every relationship that they are in, even if they don't realize it. I've seen men and women that do this.
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Re: Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause?

Postby Winston » Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:59 am

fschmidt wrote:We are good and they are evil.


Come on. That sounds too black and white. Every group likes to put things in black and white categories.

- Conspiracy people put everything into two groups - those who serve the NWO and those opposed to it.
- Christian fundamentalists see two types of people - those who are saved and accepted Christ as their savior and everyone else who is a slave of Satan and Sin even if they don't know it.
- Cults who believe that they have the truth and everyone else doesn't.
- George Bush who said "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

But reality is not black and white, but shades of grey. People just love to oversimplify things.

I could say that HAers are truth seekers and aware, whereas the rest are insane and living in ignorance. But then someone could argue that everyone has their own "truth" because truth is subjective.

Maybe we are just on a different wavelength than others. People can be in the same physical reality but be on different wavelengths and therefore be in different dimensions in terms of their consciousness.
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Re: Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause?

Postby Yohan » Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:49 pm

Winston wrote:That's true. Luck and fate are often controlled by forces we can't see or explain. Americans are delusional in thinking that everything in controllable, that's what they want to believe but that isn't necessarily what's true.


Not all what happens to you is within your own control. We cannot choose our parents when we are born. Some are born into a better environment than others. We cannot control something like accidents, illnesses and also we cannot control what kind of people we will meet in our future.

There is the talk in USA about a right man at the right time at the right place - he will be happy and considers USA as his paradise.
Of course there is also the talk about the wrong man at the wrong time at the wrong place and USA means for him a disaster.

For most of us the truth is somewhere in the middle, this or that might go wrong, but otherwise this or that might go on perfectly OK.

Some of us have clearly dating problems with Western women, but this does not mean that we cannot be successful somewhere else in this world.

You have to try and find out what fits you best. For me personally, all worked out nicely finally, no problems of any kind anymore, but I wasted many years - it took me a long time to sort out all and everything, one by one, which made my life difficult. The last 10 years were the best of my life. - My only problem now is my age. Not really so young anymore.
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Re: Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause?

Postby onethousandknives » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:55 pm

starchild5 wrote:The reason is due to darkness...."Conspiracy theorist" - Truth Seekers are always never found in one family...Our parents are by design asleep and different...You will never find 10 conspiracy theorist in the same street..logic would state that like minded souls would be born in same places etc...


My dad is actually more into conspiracy theories and stuff than I am.
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Re: Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause?

Postby BlackKnight » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:55 am

Hi Winston,

Thanks for asking me, now THE key to understanding your problems is to get away from all these vast and silly generalizations. Some of you people have asperger's syndrome, some of you people lack social skills, some of you are just crazy, etc, etc. A lot of angry men out there trying to find some grand theory for why they failed with women and family. All this psychobabble and philosophizing is a desperate search for societal or biological flaws to blame for their lack of success. You need to look at yourself separately and then pick up a copy of:

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Re: Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause?

Postby Winston » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:53 am

BlackKnight wrote:Hi Winston,

Thanks for asking me, now THE key to understanding your problems is to get away from all these vast and silly generalizations. Some of you people have asperger's syndrome, some of you people lack social skills, some of you are just crazy, etc, etc. A lot of angry men out there trying to find some grand theory for why they failed with women and family. All this psychobabble and philosophizing is a desperate search for societal or biological flaws to blame for their lack of success. You need to look at yourself separately and then pick up a copy of:

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No one was asking you anything because you aren't considered a credible source. You make assertions without evidence. Your posts do not contain any logical arguments. You have never met us so you can't say if we have aspergers or autism or lack social skills. You have no basis for your know it all attitude.

I was asking genuine truth seekers and intellectuals. I was asking for honest answers. You don't fit the bill and aren't even credible.
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Re: Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause?

Postby Ghost » Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:54 am

Hey Winston, I think it's pretty clear now. Paggy has a vagina. Only a vagina-possessor could use nothing but shaming language like Paggy does. Although I guess he/she could just be a male feminist, his/her writing style isn't feminine.

This is why I tell trolls to try harder. Don't make it too easy to spot. It's more entertaining that way. :lol:
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Re: Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause?

Postby Adama » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:05 pm

Winston wrote:I have a deep question that we should all ask. I know this isn't an easy question to answer, but still you gotta wonder about it. The question is:

Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause or problem? How come other people are able to thrive in America -- get married, raise children, establish a career or steady job, etc? What's the difference between us and them?

I know we've all postulated the following explanations:

-- We are too authentic and down to earth and don't fit into the fake American culture or social life.
-- We are nonconformists and freethinkers who don't fit into the system.
-- We are introverts in an extroverted society like the US that doesn't understand us.
-- We have aspergers syndrome and therefore are classified as having a "mental disorder".
-- We lack social skills or "game" and don't know how to "act cool".
-- We hate trash culture or mindless entertainment such as sports, reality TV shows, modern music, degenerate culture, tattoos, etc.
-- We are simply unattractive in both looks and personality.
-- We are nerds and geeks.

And even some deeper explanations that are esoteric in nature:

-- We are reactionaries who belong to the old order and do not fit into the modern world of liberalism and socialism espoused by the New World Order.
-- We are old souls that had past lives in conservative societies of the past and do not fit into the modern liberal world of the New World Order with all its "equal rights", liberalism, political correctness, socialism, women's rights, feminism, emasculation of men, etc.
-- Our souls are from another world or dimension, not this one.
-- Since the famous psychic Edgar Cayce said that Americans are the reincarnation of the Atlanteans who were destroyed for their wickedness in a cataclysm, and since Lemuria was the polar opposite of Atlantis and its enemy, maybe we are the reincarnated souls of the Lemurians, and that's why we don't vibe with the Atlanteans?
Etc.

But still, even if any of those are true, is there a deeper root cause? Why are we different? How come we aren't like normal mainstream people who don't ask these questions and just focus on their jobs and raising families like "normal" people do? Why do we have to resort to HappierAbroad but mainstream normal guys don't?

I know that's not an easy question to answer, but still, as a philosophical truth seeker, I have to ask it and seek answers. Do any of you wonder about the same thing? Do you find yourself asking such questions too? If so, have you come up with any insights?


What is the cause of most plane crashes when you exclude pilot error and terrorism?

There is never just one thing that goes wrong when a plane crashes. If you ever watch that show on National Geographic called "Seconds From Disaster," you'll recognize that it takes seven or eight things to go wrong or fail before the plane will crash. There are back ups in place, but if multiple systems are compromised at the same time, then the plane will crash.

The comparison here isnt the accident scenario. The comparison is that it is never just one thing. It is a constellation of things that are different. You will likely never be able to point your finger at exactly one thing and say, "Aha! I've found the answer." The answer very well could be "All of the above + several unknown variables."
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Re: Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause?

Postby IraqVet2003 » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:08 am

Winston, I myself have pondered over this very issue for a long time. I just really think some of us just want to "march to the beat of a different drummer". As for myself, I have never participated in the dating scene, never been married nor had any children. I am also an intellectual and deep thinker along with being an artist. And I don't have a job/career in corporate America. But, I think the main reason we are considered "misfits" in America is because we H.A.'s don't completely follow the script provided by the propaganda of the mainstream media's social roles for men and women, that of "blind" patriotism/loyalty, or the socialization/indoctrination of the public school system. In addition, I believe many of us want to be "true to ourselves" and to be accepted for who we are as individuals. We feel we shouldn't have to develop so-called "social skills" in order to "fit in" nor to have "game" just to get a female's attention or date with her. However, I do think the solution to these problem of feeling like a so-called "misfit" in America is to EXPATRIATE to a country that has a society fits your personality and values.
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