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Mr.Darcy
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Is ISIS real

Post by Mr.Darcy » August 12th, 2015, 5:28 am

If so why won't we step in and fully eliminate them. 65% of Americans consider ISiS a threat and 57% of Americans agree to send ground troops to fight them. As much as I hear the news, friends, and politicians ***** about ISIS everyday, why won't we do it? Plus, what is Israel doing? They live right next door and are supposed to be a strategic ally in the middle east.

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Re: Is ISIS real

Post by gsjackson » August 12th, 2015, 6:39 am

Israel's main objective is overthrowing the Assad regime and cutting off the flow of weapons through Syria to Hezbollah in Lebanon. Israel has also long wanted the de facto situation that ISIS has created -- the partitioning of Iraq into three sub-countries. Whatever Israel wants, the US will try to make happen.

So, ISIS is useful to Israeli/US policy as a rhetorical whipping boy to maintain public support for military intervention in the middle east. But the objectives there have little to do with ISIS, which, of course, has been funded by our other great ally in the middle east, Saudi Arabia.

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Re: Is ISIS real

Post by Wolfeye » August 12th, 2015, 2:11 pm

Mr. Darcy: Well, have you noticed that things don't necessarily go by the people's wants & approvals? Plus, remember how they handled other "threats"? Things generally seemed to be steered in a "win by failing" style over there & also generally got worse over here, for whatever reason. I don't think the same people that f**k up on a constant level are going to lead some kind of effective counteraction of this particular group. A point might even be to make things bad so worse can take over by promising to do better. I think this ISIS thing was also to some extent created by this group that would be going after them & at the very least all their bullshit in Iraq seems to have been a bit of a catalyst to this situation.

Another problem is that people are so damn patriotic to the soldiers that they wouldn't want to criticize the military's actions- even though the grunts really don't orchestrate much of anything & definitely get impacted by what DOES get orchestrated (although this is partially by their own hand). Granted, I wouldn't see them as anything but enemies if they came at me under orders, but it doesn't go that some private says "Hey, let's go to another country & blow shit up." There has to be some kind of military influence there & people are reluctant to comment on that because of this patriotic alignment. Doesn't make sense, since it would be quite patriotic to worry about what happens to the country & the soldiers OF the country.

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Re: Is ISIS real

Post by Moretorque » August 12th, 2015, 5:04 pm

Mr.Darcy wrote:If so why won't we step in and fully eliminate them. 65% of Americans consider ISiS a threat and 57% of Americans agree to send ground troops to fight them. As much as I hear the news, friends, and politicians ***** about ISIS everyday, why won't we do it? Plus, what is Israel doing? They live right next door and are supposed to be a strategic ally in the middle east.
Hi Mr. Darcy, I missed Yaa !

Mr. Darcy start reading some of the old books which have been updated by modern real historians who are not in it for the credit money. Who created Israel ?, all roads go to ? either you tote the line for the one world system or else. The system is the rich ruling elite who own everything and the dumb down herd under them.
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Re: Is ISIS real

Post by Wolfeye » August 12th, 2015, 5:56 pm

Moretorque: Not to sound like I'm disagreeing, but what books? Any good historians to reference?

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Re: Is ISIS real

Post by Dragon » August 12th, 2015, 7:55 pm

I support those camel molesters known as ISIS because they bring great entertainment and many lolz to the Middle East.
I am a terrible person.

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Re: Is ISIS real

Post by Moretorque » August 12th, 2015, 7:56 pm

" A Century of War " by F William Engdahl is really good at getting a close picture of why the Middle East is the way it is. " The Creature From Jekyll Island " is another good read about how the world really works and who is running it.

I don't mind if you disagree with me, just don't let me ever catch you disagreeing with the great one Cornfed because he's never wrong!
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Re: Is ISIS real

Post by Wolfeye » August 12th, 2015, 11:56 pm

Moretorque: Thanks for the book suggestions. Are you being serious about Cornfed?

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Re: Is ISIS real

Post by gsjackson » August 13th, 2015, 12:35 am

I agree that both books are pretty much must-reads.

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Re: Is ISIS real

Post by Moretorque » August 13th, 2015, 12:41 am

Wolfeye wrote:Moretorque: Thanks for the book suggestions. Are you being serious about Cornfed?
I love razzing The Great One because he is so GREAT!, there are newer books by a author named M S King. He is turning history upside down according to his book reviews on Amazon, I have stated all roads go to the CITI of London and according to the reviews he proves this..
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Re: Is ISIS real

Post by Jonny Law » August 13th, 2015, 10:57 pm

ISIS is f***ing REAL!!!

REAL f***ing JEWISH!!!

How come they never attack Jewish allies like Qatar, or Saudi Arabia? They will f***ing attack Zionist enemies like Syria!

-ISIS LEADER IS JEWISH-
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Re: Is ISIS real

Post by Dragon » August 14th, 2015, 9:29 pm

Jonny Law wrote:ISIS is f***ing REAL!!!

REAL f***ing JEWISH!!!

How come they never attack Jewish allies like Qatar, or Saudi Arabia? They will f***ing attack Zionist enemies like Syria!

-ISIS LEADER IS JEWISH-
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/04 ... er-mossad/
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Re: Is ISIS real

Post by Tsar » August 16th, 2015, 3:16 am

Ever since ISIL created I knew it was just a U.S.-created organized, most likely with Israeli help. Whether it was intentional or a byproduct of America's foolish policy against Syria, it doesn't make a difference.

America is waging a multi-objective way in Syria.

-a proxy war against Russia. (They already destroyed Russia's relationship with Ukraine. They sponsored the regime change in Ukraine and inserted U.S. puppets and Zionists, along with fascist Nazis into the Kiev-government, and then the Kiev-Government imports the former President of Georgia who was corrupt and forced Russia into a 2008 conflict to protect the breakaway regions in Georgia. They appoint a famous anti-Russian foreigner as the governor of Odessa. They want to destroy Assad, and then insert an American puppet)
-a proxy War against Iran
-cut out the Syria and diminish Hezbollah's power (they protect Lebanon and challenge the Israeli hegemony)
-They want ISIL and the U.S.-funded Moderate Rebels to battle it out with each other, but most importantly, destroy the Assad government and partition the country. Their objective is once Assad is either dead or flees, or lost control of enough of Syria to be considered insignificant and no longer in power, America goes in and bombs ISIL and at the same time also destroy the legitimate Assad government (in defense of the moderate rebels). They already announced they would bomb the Syrian Army if they were to attack the moderate rebels.
-Remove another Russian ally, and Iran's closest ally.
-Open up Syria to Rothschild control

If Russia helps to rescue Syria and sends in paratroopers, then that would be a fairly significant piece of evidence that would seem to indicate that Russia's Vladimir Putin is really not part of the World's Illuminati club that wants to create a one-world hegemonic system (based on America). Russian inaction would be the same as surrendering another ally to America's imperial conquests.

ISIL is an instrument of America and one of their pieces on the geopolitical chessboard they control or use to try to retain their hegemony which is very slowly slipping away. But the fact is that every country that America tries to insert their puppets ultimately backfires in the end. Either anti-Americans take over again, permanent civil unrest consume the country, or they are unable to stop what they created and things take at least one decade to work themselves out and another decade to get back to some normalcy.

America always needs to create or fabricate an enemy as one of the distractions to Americans, along with the bread and circuses (breadcrumbs to the masses and large number of sports, celebrity entertainment, and propaganda news to distract them).

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Re: Is ISIS real

Post by tom » August 16th, 2015, 4:38 pm

The real question is do you believe the main stream media narrative about ISIS.
My answer is 100% no, its total bull shit. It made to keep the masses engaged with white knight stories and other tropes to make the American listener feel good and keep listening.

The obvious, George Bush senior would not invade Iraq because he knew Iraq would fragment if he destroyed the Iraqi government. It would also have handed Iran effective control of portions of Iraq. Bush Jr. did not care and destroyed Iraq. What is currently happening in Iraq is no surprise. What could not have been predicted is the wider destabilization of Syria. So now we have a lot of fiefdoms or warlords. And no nation state in Iraq, Syria or Lebanon. The only real Nation States in the Middle east are Turkey, Iran and Israel. The rest like Egypt Libya, Saudi have shaky governments that have very questionable legitimacy. The real big player is Turkey and the US knows it. It does look like the US will make its peace with Iran and really it matters little if they eventually make a bomb. The real Iranian threat is its conventional army.

ISIS will be forgotten.

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