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Why menosphere blames women for being hypergamous?

Postby Banano » Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:29 pm

Do you think we are hypocrats for doing so?


Menosphere tries to blame and shame women for wanting the best they can get?

Its not logical nor its natural for human being to settle for less if they can get more.

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Re: Why menosphere blames women for being hypergamous?

Postby fschmidt » Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:36 pm

The general rule of modern culture is to blame someone else. Blame women, blame blacks, blame Jews, blame lizard people, blame whoever. Of course the real fault lies with the fact that the few decent men refuse to take any positive action to help themselves.
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Re: Why menosphere blames women for being hypergamous?

Postby MarcosZeitola » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:35 pm

A man wants the best he can get, and so does a woman. The problem lies in the fact that men in the menosphere seem to think THEY themselves are the best. Therefore they want the highest quality women for themselves, operatin under the false pretense that they are somehow superior to other men in their country.

The truth is: a lot of the frustrated manosphere guys are not, in fact, superior to the men who DO get the girls. They think that being decent and "a good guy" should be enough. But if you were a woman, would it be enough for you? For some, the answer would be yes. For many others, it's a clear no. And then there is the problem of men overestimating their own "decency"... it's a sense of moral superiority based on their own personal opinion. Often, it is flawed.
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Re: Why menosphere blames women for being hypergamous?

Postby fschmidt » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:11 pm

MarcosZeitola wrote:The truth is: a lot of the frustrated manosphere guys are not, in fact, superior to the men who DO get the girls.

What you are missing is that what exactly is superior depends on conditions.

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It is up to decent men to change conditions.
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Re: Why menosphere blames women for being hypergamous?

Postby Jonny Law » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:37 pm

Banano wrote:Do you think we are hypocrats for doing so?


Menosphere tries to blame and shame women for wanting the best they can get?

Its not logical nor its natural for human being to settle for less if they can get more.

True


No problem except that women seem to choose Bums, Criminals and Drug Addicts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slopGCbInW0
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Re: Why menosphere blames women for being hypergamous?

Postby Cornfed » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:37 pm

Banano wrote:Do you think we are hypocrats for doing so?


Menosphere tries to blame and shame women for wanting the best they can get?

The trouble in the West is that due to the current government setup the best men in terms of reproductive potential are in fact the worst men. Serial criminal scum are essentially always fathers, often of a considerable number of children. And I am not even talking about high functioning criminals. It is fuckup criminals that breed the fastest and therefore are the most attractive to vile Western sluts. This situation is obviously not socially desirable, nor is it desirable for other men to emulate the scum in order to get sex.

Outside the West the problem with hypergamy is that the media etc. often creates the impression that all females can marry the tiny number of big shots at the top, leading females to eschew realistically desirable marriages to ordinary men in an attempt to become haremwhores of the elite. This is also obviously not desirable.

In both cases government policy is largely to blame, but beyond that the situation clearly shows that females should not be allowed to choose their sexual behavior any more than children should be allowed to choose what they eat for dinner.
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Re: Why menosphere blames women for being hypergamous?

Postby Jonny Law » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:57 pm

-Newsflash-
Women do not want an exceptional guy or a great looking guy because they cannot control that guy.

Who women fuck-
1. The rich guy. They will call him arrogant and hate him and yet they will f**k him without control. Just go to a very poor country and you will know what I am talking about.

2. Criminals. Women love Bums and the shit of society because they can be controlled.

Women are turned off by-
1. The successful guy. This is why women have proven that they should not be in charge of their own reproduction.
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Re: Why menosphere blames women for being hypergamous?

Postby Jeremy » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:18 am

Cornfed wrote:
Banano wrote:Do you think we are hypocrats for doing so?


Menosphere tries to blame and shame women for wanting the best they can get?

The trouble in the West is that due to the current government setup the best men in terms of reproductive potential are in fact the worst men. Serial criminal scum are essentially always fathers, often of a considerable number of children. And I am not even talking about high functioning criminals. It is fuckup criminals that breed the fastest and therefore are the most attractive to vile Western sluts. This situation is obviously not socially desirable, nor is it desirable for other men to emulate the scum in order to get sex.

Outside the West the problem with hypergamy is that the media etc. often creates the impression that all females can marry the tiny number of big shots at the top, leading females to eschew realistically desirable marriages to ordinary men in an attempt to become haremwhores of the elite. This is also obviously not desirable.

In both cases government policy is largely to blame, but beyond that the situation clearly shows that females should not be allowed to choose their sexual behavior any more than children should be allowed to choose what they eat for dinner.


I don't see much correlation between criminality and success with women. What I DO see is women (at least in their prime) holding out for only the most facially pretty guys, leaving the rest of us to wank on the sidelines.
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Re: Why menosphere blames women for being hypergamous?

Postby Ghost » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:33 am

I don't think most of the manosphere does really blame women for hypergamy. It doesn't take much to realize that if things were reversed hypergamy would be much less of an issue. Give men the education, jobs, and other opportunities, and put women back in the f***ing kitchen, and hypergamy gets solved. At the very least the welfare-for-women state needs to be abolished, a la like third world countries where provider types still have an equal footing with bad boys. (Not the most ideal, I'm merely saying it levels the playing field. It certainly doesn't set things right.)
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Re: Why menosphere blames women for being hypergamous?

Postby Adama » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:55 am

The problem isnt hypergamy. The problem is the government encourages women to fleece men through its confiscation of male wealth. The other problem is the glorification of opulence in the media. Everyone on TV lives a millionaire lifestyle. Some people can not separate fantasy from reality. This is all intentional.

I think women like bad boys because they are the last remnant of real men in the wussified West. Meaning that they have neutered the male gender. These are the men who still have some lingering masculinity, although only the most brutish parts.
Look for women who automatically want to please you because it pleases them. Any woman who seeks to please her man is a treasure. Even better if you don't have to ask but rather suggest.
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Re: Why menosphere blames women for being hypergamous?

Postby Banano » Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:59 am

King of MGTOW bar bar cant stop talking about female hypergamy


Somebody needs to tell him he is wrong and needs to swallow the real red pill



Claiming that females are hypergamous implies s that males are not, which is not true at all. I am hypergamist too, we all are.
Classic example of male hypergamy would be 50 yo white male in South East Asia. Does he go for women his own age or a few years younger and stay loyal to that woman?
No, he does not, he jumps from girl to girl that are 25-30 years younger than him and out of his league and plays around as much as much as his body and wallet allow him to.


There you go guys, Female hypergamy has been officially debunked . Winston can confirm this.
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Re: Why menosphere blames women for being hypergamous?

Postby Ghost » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:37 am

Well, that doesn't debunk hypergamy. You just added to it...

It's human nature and human nature can't be changed, only channeled. Patriarchy and feminism are two competing ways of channeling it. The system of a given society will determine how big of a problem hypergamy will be. Under a feminist system hypergamy only grows because the daddygov gives the females so much "free" money (taken from you at real or implied gunpoint) that the average man cannot compete with the government effectively giving each female a free $50K a year salary.

What we need is a patriarchal system in which women are not allowed education and jobs. (With a few exceptions, such as caretaker of children and elderly, p4p, etc.) The men need all of the education and jobs, plus need subsidized p4p. Any country that make their society centered on the men would see a vast explosion of wealth and prosperity as well as happiness.
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Re: Why menosphere blames women for being hypergamous?

Postby Jonny Law » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:43 am

Banano wrote:King of MGTOW bar bar cant stop talking about female hypergamy


Somebody needs to tell him he is wrong and needs to swallow the real red pill



Claiming that females are hypergamous implies s that males are not, which is not true at all. I am hypergamist too, we all are.
Classic example of male hypergamy would be 50 yo white male in South East Asia. Does he go for women his own age or a few years younger and stay loyal to that woman?
No, he does not, he jumps from girl to girl that are 25-30 years younger than him and out of his league and plays around as much as much as his body and wallet allow him to.


There you go guys, Female hypergamy has been officially debunked . Winston can confirm this.


Male Hypergamy- f***ing hot chicks of reproductive age.
The male is of higher financial status and better able to raise a family.

Female Hypergamy- f***ing criminals, drug addicts and low lives. And occasionally a rich douche-bag player and being cheated on.
The women go on welfare. Or kick the man our robbing him with child support and kidnapping his children.

Civilization's downfall is allowing women the right to their reproduction.
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Re: Why menosphere blames women for being hypergamous?

Postby Banano » Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:15 am

Male Hypergamy- f***ing hot chicks of reproductive age.
The male is of higher financial status and better able to raise a family.

Female Hypergamy- f***ing criminals, drug addicts and low lives. And occasionally a rich douche-bag player and being cheated on.
The women go on welfare. Or kick the man our robbing him with child support and kidnapping his children.





How is fcking criminals, drug addicts and low lives hypergamy? Hypergamy is going for someone of superior class.


Stop perpetuating this myth of welfare state, these days there is about equal number of men and women who are on welfare benefits. In fact its men who will benefit the most from welfare state in the future since all manufacturing has gone to Asia, IT and call centeres to India and Philiphines.
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Re: Why menosphere blames women for being hypergamous?

Postby Cornfed » Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:40 am

Banano wrote:How is fcking criminals, drug addicts and low lives hypergamy? Hypergamy is going for someone of superior class.

They are considered superior to decent men by female hindbrains because the system supports their lifestyle and reproductive potential while detracting from that of decent men.

Stop perpetuating this myth of welfare state, these days there is about equal number of men and women who are on welfare benefits.

The females get much more money and attention on average. They also get basically all the government and corporate welfare-type jobs the system can give them while still functioning. However, the relevant point is that men were traditionally the protectors and providers, but now the regime has usurped that function, so females are to all intents and purposes married to the government.
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