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Re: Water on Mars

Postby Adama » October 15th, 2015, 11:26 pm

HouseMD wrote:This is pretty sweet, I can't see a word you're saying.

<3 foes list



That's fine by me, if you think childish games are important. (Why bother informing me? I've never informed anyone I put on ignore. For what, to tease them? Silliness.)
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Re: Water on Mars

Postby HouseMD » October 15th, 2015, 11:30 pm

Maybe if you post in all caps I'll be able to hear you. Try harder? I still can't hear you.
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Re: Water on Mars

Postby Adama » October 15th, 2015, 11:34 pm

HouseMD wrote:Maybe if you post in all caps I'll be able to hear you. Try harder? I still can't hear you.



Does it make you feel like you've won to play this game? See, even when you put me on ignore, you have not truly ignored me, now have you? You still post in order to tease and mock, as if that is some sort of victory. And this from a man who is a medical doctor? I dont doubt your credentials (cause I dont really care). I am just saying, this is kind of immature for a man on that level. Or maybe what is highly esteemed among men is still foolishness.
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Re: Water on Mars

Postby HouseMD » October 15th, 2015, 11:35 pm

This is going to sound crazy, but you're still not coming through. Might want to contact tech support.
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Re: Water on Mars

Postby Adama » October 16th, 2015, 1:00 am

HouseMD wrote:This is going to sound crazy, but you're still not coming through. Might want to contact tech support.


Why continue to attempt to make fun of me, when you are supposed to be ignoring me? You do realize that you are not ignoring me. I still have your attention. If you are going to ignore someone, then ignore them. Don't continue to respond to them. I know somehow in your mind, which must be wired backwards, you think you have won by putting me on ignore while still responding to me. That almost defeats the whole purpose of the ignore feature, since you continue on like you do.

This is like a child who puts his fingers in his ears, rather than listening to what he does not want to hear, while he says "nah na na na." I remember that from childhood. I don't do that as an adult though.
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Re: Water on Mars

Postby HouseMD » October 16th, 2015, 1:03 am

Guess what? I still can't see your message. I'm going to stop following the thread so I stop getting notifications from your unreadable responses.
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Re: Water on Mars

Postby Adama » October 16th, 2015, 1:04 am

HouseMD wrote:Guess what? I still can't see your message. I'm going to stop following the thread so I stop getting notifications from your unreadable responses.



That would be wise for you to finally ignore me, like you said you would. You will be keeping your promise by doing that. In the future, maybe you should either completely ignore someone or respond as an adult.
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Re: Water on Mars

Postby HouseMD » October 16th, 2015, 1:08 am

Before I could even find the unfollow link I got another freakin' notification. It's like he doesn't even know how the ignore function works lol. You can respond to me all day, and I'll get notifications, but all it shows is "you are ignoring content from this member." I'm sure you're having a lovely conversation with yourself though, given that you've posted so many times. I hope you found your posts fruitful.
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Re: Water on Mars

Postby Adama » October 16th, 2015, 1:13 am

HouseMD wrote:Before I could even find the unfollow link I got another freakin' notification. It's like he doesn't even know how the ignore function works lol. You can respond to me all day, and I'll get notifications, but all it shows is "you are ignoring content from this member." I'm sure you're having a lovely conversation with yourself though, given that you've posted so many times. I hope you found your posts fruitful.


You are talking to me. You speak like foolish person speak.
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Re: Water on Mars

Postby MrMan » October 16th, 2015, 3:23 am

Ghost wrote:There is life on Mars, has been confirmed for years.

Microbial life, but life nonetheless...

Don't think John Carter, think common cold.

Life of all kinds is probably replete throughout the universe, from microbes to intelligent beings. But the universe being such a big place, it seems to be empty.

More earth-esque planets get discovered over time. I think there are plenty out there. I wonder how all the religions would react to finding out about other intelligent lifeforms in other worlds?


I hear some other scientists think it's debatable whether those microbubbles are the results of life.
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Re: Water on Mars

Postby MrMan » October 16th, 2015, 3:24 am

Tsar wrote:http://www.mail.com/scitech/news/3851774-life-mars-nasa-planet-appears-to-flowing-water.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2015-09-28/nasa-announcement-liquid-water-found-on-mars

There is liquid water on Mars. It could be possible that there is actually life on Mars and the US Government knew about it for a long time.


If there is a little running water on Mars when the surface heats up to 90 degrees, does that mean there are little people running around in the minus 200 degree weather, waiting for the sun to heat up the surface in certain areas so they can get a drink? How would the US government know about it?

Btw, I think we need to pick and choose conspiracy theories. If the US government faked the lunar landing, then they probably don't have all kinds of secret intelligence about alien life and all kinds of alien technology.
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Re: Water on Mars

Postby Ghost » October 16th, 2015, 7:20 am

It is not an allegory. It is fact.


It goes beyond fact to the realm of truth. Tell me, do you know what an allegory is? I am not so certain that you do.

Basically you are saying that God is a liar.


To the contrary, I am saying God is so much greater than the little box you try to squeeze Him into. You've all but reduced God to an old man in the sky.

Can you believe that you are doing that?


Can you believe how asinine you are?


If you are saying that story is merely for illustrative purposes, then you are saying He is a liar. There is nothing in the story which would make one believe it is just an allegory, unless of course you wish to believe man's wisdom is greater than God's. At that point you can say we have learned great knowledge on our own, without God, but you would be wrong.


Genesis contains so much overt symbolism and deeper meaning that it is clearly an allegory. I'm not certain you know what an allegory is, so I'll clue you in. Allegories are stories that can be read literally and metaphorically. The metaphorical meaning contains the deeper truth, but the literal reading allows anyone to understand the story. Allegories are a way to give more profound wisdom to those who otherwise wouldn't understand. By saying it is ONLY meant as a literal story is not just plainly false, but is discarding the majority of the wisdom in Creation Story.

What is so hard about believing that God created Adam from the dust of the earth and Eve from Adam's rib? Is that too incredible? You'd rather believe in billions of years of evolution from a single cell organism all the way up to modern humanity? I would say it would take much more faith to believe the conjecture of Man (which is all evolution is at its best, at its worst it is another deception to get people to believe God does not exist, damning them to hell), than to simply believe that God did what He said He did exactly as written.


As far as I remember, Genesis states that God made the earth bring forth life. That, taken literally, is suggestive that God used abiogenesis/evolution to do his work. Evolution happens, deal with it. Abiogenesis hasn't been proven. But neither one would disprove the existence of God. Why is that creationists like to tell God what He can't do? Most people, by the way, who believe in evolution also believe that God exists. You still haven't answered this: if the plan was to make people who accept evolution as a fact stop believing in God, why do most of them still believe in God?

Do you know how much faith it takes for you to believe that there is a Mars with a real territory to land on? You haven't seen it yourself, now have you? You've seen the photoshopped images though. You were taught this in school. But have you ever touched Terra Martia? Nope. Yet you believe it is real. Why? Because everyone else believes it is real. And how did that happen? Did you accept that the school system was taken over by the elites? Have you accepted that yet? Have you accepted that Freemasonry runs NASA? Do you know that these people worship Satan? As I wrote earlier, Satan has always been the little god running and controlling this world. He's been planning how to deceive people for generations, and he has succeeded in sending billions of people to tell.


The leaps you take are truly the most insane I've ever seen anyone make.

Mars can be seen as the sphere it is through a telescope, as I recall. By the way, I realized another hole in your madness: since the planets were named after the Roman gods, and they believed the planets were in fact the gods - why didn't the elites keep the population believing that they were gods instead of letting them know that those "gods" are actually other planets? Rocks floating through space is not exactly a reason to believe that God doesn't exist. You're so incoherent.

Satan wants you desperately to disbelieve God.


He failed, then.

He wants to erase any evidence that there is a real God, the Creator. Do you see? He wants you to believe in aliens and multiple worlds. Why? Because that means that God is not sitting in heaven directly above the stars. It also denies that Jesus can be the only one to ascend into heaven under his own power.


Aliens and other planets would not prove that God doesn't exist. You're so silly and asinine.

Why do you think Satan wants to give the family to women? Because first you must bind the strong man. Then you can spoil his goods. What are his goods? The hearts, minds and souls of the family. That's what the school system was all about.

But if you can not see that this is a multi-faceted system, worldwide, set up by Satan, those who directly worship him (the bankers, politicians, celebrities) and those they'd bought out, then my friend you are blind to reality.


A completely different matter from what we're talking about. As I've told you in another thread, they have no power to lie about the shape of the earth, especially given that the shape of the earth can be realized without having to leave the surface.

This life is not about THIS WORLD. This life is about your future, in eternity. Satan wants to make damn sure you spend eternity in Hell with him. He doesnt want you to follow the Lord and believe on Him to save your soul from Hell.


You're so wrapped up in this delusion that the universe doesn't exist (apparently accepting that the universe exists in your theology is a damnable offense), that your Christianity lacks much Christ in it.

The fact is, you come on here and insult the intelligence of others, act haughty and arrogant, and lie and mislead. And you do it all shamelessly.
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Re: Water on Mars

Postby MarcosZeitola » October 16th, 2015, 10:20 am

Adama wrote:I do apologize HouseMD. I think you are a Christian, just a non-believing one.


One can be Christian and still accept certain scientific phenomena as facts. I know many Christians who believe in evolution, for example, and aren't any less pious for it. My own grandparents are among these people, and I have known few people more kind, more caring and more helpful to their fellow man then them, embodying the Christian spirit in their every move.

Faith does not have to equal blind belief. Perhaps in your interpretation of the Bible and Christianity it does, but this is not necessarily true for all your fellow believers. Is not being humble a Christian virtue? The knowledge of scientists, to me, is often humbling. This does not mean I agree with them always or never questions their claims, but it also doesn't mean we should dismiss everything they say the minute it goes against a Biblical account you take literally.

Not all Biblical accounts are to be taken literally; the flooding of the earth in the times of Noah being a fine example. As I understand it, there was a historical flood in the days of Noah that struck a large portion of what is present-day Iraq. For men in the days of Noah, who had never ventured out of their little villages, it would have seemed as if the entirety of earth had flooded. When in actuality, it was only a small part of the world that was covered in water. Science has proven that there was indeed a flood, and many died, but it never killed all of humanity. Acknowleding this fact does not invalidate the message of the Biblical story.
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Re: Water on Mars

Postby The_Adventurer » October 16th, 2015, 10:44 am

MarcosZeitola wrote:Science has proven that there was indeed a flood, and many died, but it never killed all of humanity. Acknowleding this fact does not invalidate the message of the Biblical story.


No one ever mentions how people like the Anakim and Rephaim should have all been killed in the flood, if only eight people survived this event, yet they are somehow still hanging around in the time of Moses.
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Re: Water on Mars

Postby Adama » October 16th, 2015, 3:28 pm

MarcosZeitola wrote:
Adama wrote:I do apologize HouseMD. I think you are a Christian, just a non-believing one.


One can be Christian and still accept certain scientific phenomena as facts. I know many Christians who believe in evolution, for example, and aren't any less pious for it. My own grandparents are among these people, and I have known few people more kind, more caring and more helpful to their fellow man then them, embodying the Christian spirit in their every move.

Faith does not have to equal blind belief. Perhaps in your interpretation of the Bible and Christianity it does, but this is not necessarily true for all your fellow believers. Is not being humble a Christian virtue? The knowledge of scientists, to me, is often humbling. This does not mean I agree with them always or never questions their claims, but it also doesn't mean we should dismiss everything they say the minute it goes against a Biblical account you take literally.

Not all Biblical accounts are to be taken literally; the flooding of the earth in the times of Noah being a fine example. As I understand it, there was a historical flood in the days of Noah that struck a large portion of what is present-day Iraq. For men in the days of Noah, who had never ventured out of their little villages, it would have seemed as if the entirety of earth had flooded. When in actuality, it was only a small part of the world that was covered in water. Science has proven that there was indeed a flood, and many died, but it never killed all of humanity. Acknowleding this fact does not invalidate the message of the Biblical story.


Marcos, that is a game of semantics which you are using. Faith is belief. You can not redefine faith. Otherwise we will be unable to communicate, if you change the meaning of words at will. Faith is belief. One is a noun. The other is a verb. But they are the same.

Can you believe God and evolution as a true believer? I think the only way that would be possible is if that Christian had never read Genesis, or if their Pastor is an unbeliever himself and never preached on the Genesis stories. A true believer, a saved person, believes God's word. They do not think they are all illustrations. When God mentions a person by name, it is a real story which took place. When He just says "a man" it is probably a parable.

If God is real, if he is pure, then He is not a liar. If He says there was a flood, then there was one. That is faith.

There is real science, and then there is pseudo-science. Much of science is pseudo science, but they do not make any distinction between the two. Anything which can not be proven by observation and experimentation can not be science by their own definition.

the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment:


Most of that pseudo science is accepted on faith, blind faith, the same kind that Bible believers have, except it is placed upon the fallible argumentation and "knowledge" of men, rather than the infallible truth of God. Do you recognize the difference?

In other words, many of those things which science asserts as truth can not be directly observed, neither are they reproducible or even subject to experimentation. It is conjecture, and when they find a hole in their magical theories, they invent other theories to plug those holes, which themselves can not be verified, reproduced or subject to any sort of real testing, other than more conjecture, which is only reinforced by repetition and consensus of the "scientific" community.

You people have way too much faith in the abilities and honesty of other humans. A human will lie for profit.

Does the fact that Freemasonry runs NASA mean nothing to any of you? Do you prefer the sweetness of lies over the bitterness and freedom of the truth?

Oh I know, just like with conspiracy theorists, anyone who believes the Bible is a nut. That is another gold nugget they have brainwashed people with.

Now do not have to believe the truth. You are free to reject truth.
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