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A 50 yr old MGTOW in Boston is doing well

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Re: A 50 yr old MGTOW in Boston is doing well

Postby S_Parc » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:40 am

Ghost wrote:
Plus, where's this so-called prosperity?

You first mentioned the word prosper, so I got the impression he was doing much better.


Ok, perhaps I'm not being fair in my categorizations here. Yes, he's prosperous in the sense that for the most part, he doesn't have to worry about living in the streets, even if he goes X number of years w/o a job. A lot of that comes from being a single guy with a good consulting career w/o the overhead of raising a family and living a reasonable lifestyle. And yes, knowing that if one gets "sacked", that one can sustain one's well being for years, is a lot different than knowing that he'll be borrowing to pay rent/mortgage within a year's time like most others out there.

In addition, the cost of alcohol is not that exuberant. I remember his flask of Gin, which he periodically carries around. When he's w/o paid work, he sips it and then, can reduce the number of Martinis from let's say 5 to 2 and still get hammered while being out with friends. He's quite efficient in that way.

So he's not prosperous in the way that he can live it up like a Tony Starks (of Iron Man) and throw mega-parties for all the A-listers in the New England/New York regions. He just knows how to use his resources efficiently.

Ghost wrote:It strikes me that because the West has hobbies and distractions (computers/internet, video games, TV, movies, junk food, p**n, etc.) millions of men don't hang themselves. Imagine a primitive society in which you have no real social connection. it would be difficult to avoid suicide. The West takes away a place in society for men while feeding us distractions. That distraction could be a video game, job, or even hobby.

I know what you mean about guys feeling special despite being anything but, however there is truth to that. It's so special to be alive, to have friends, to have love that some of us are willing to leave our country of origin in order to get them. And we do it because those things are precious, valuable, special. It isn't supposed to be out of arrogance, but out of a recognition of what is sacred.


I'd imagine that in more primitive times, a man would be more a naturalist than let's say, a computer scientist. And thus, he'd be studying wildlife and the various natural cycles out there, not too distinct from let's say a Grizzly Adams or a Johnnie Appleseed of our own American history.

The thing is that ppl need to find that. In a way, our propaganda machine is constructed so that a man is only seen as valuable, when he's in association with a woman. I can tell you one thing, since Mel and I have been together as a couple, ppl have rolled out the red carpet for us. We get the best tables at most restaurants and whenever I'm out alone, waitresses try to hit on me. It's like my association with a woman has made me into some sort of societal George Clooney because I'm inaccessible, in demand, and with a white collar career. When I was a regular guy earlier, I was never treated like royalty.
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Re: A 50 yr old MGTOW in Boston is doing well

Postby Ghost » Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:00 pm

I'd imagine that in more primitive times, a man would be more a naturalist than let's say, a computer scientist. And thus, he'd be studying wildlife and the various natural cycles out there, not too distinct from let's say a Grizzly Adams or a Johnnie Appleseed of our own American history.


It would still be the same idea: he has a hobby to distract him. Even way back in, say, Victorian England, a man could still have something to distract himself with. I meant real primitivity, such as a hunter-gatherer tribe. No social connection, suicide would be difficult to avoid.

In a way, our propaganda machine is constructed so that a man is only seen as valuable, when he's in association with a woman. I can tell you one thing, since Mel and I have been together as a couple, ppl have rolled out the red carpet for us. We get the best tables at most restaurants and whenever I'm out alone, waitresses try to hit on me. It's like my association with a woman has made me into some sort of societal George Clooney because I'm inaccessible, in demand, and with a white collar career. When I was a regular guy earlier, I was never treated like royalty.


It comes from our biological programming, which society as a whole is not conscious of. One problem with how the West does it is it says that a man can have no value apart from being involved with a woman, but that a woman can value either way. If society acknowledged both sides of it, we might make some progress. Any rational society will value relationships and procreation. But it of course needs to acknowledge both sides of it; that it isn't just men who need women, but that women need men as well. And that is a sacred way to view it. To only say there is one side to it is to deny the sacred reality of it. That's why Western society is so sick.

You're big on compartmentalization, right? Which I understand as a tactic, but it makes for a life devoid of meaning, I think. It's the feminist/MGTOW way of life. Perhaps deeper down, this is what we're searching for abroad: a life where everything is together and not separate. So this "MGTOW" guy is doing well objectively, but I don't see the point of it. It's comfort, but not substance. To each his own.
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Re: A 50 yr old MGTOW in Boston is doing well

Postby S_Parc » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:36 pm

Actually, compartmentalization means survival. If you'd grown up in a dysfunctional family and couldn't compartmentalize, you'd be dead or would have a future, no different from the household you'd grown up in.

At the same time, if you assume that certain ppl have a greater mental/spiritual development then if the Biblical Joseph couldn't compartmentalize, then he'd also be dead after his jealous brothers sold him into slavery and his subsequent abuse by the Egyptian authorities. And while I tend to avoid Biblical metaphors, I think that the story of Joseph does ring true.

Joe was an A-list compartmentalizer.
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Beware of long term engagements with AWs, you may find yourself in a coffin.

AB discussion thread

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