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Re: Why Doesn't Winston Wu defend his own forum?

Postby Winston » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:28 am

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Ghost wrote:His obsession with the flat-earth "theory" is frustrating, since aside from being bullshit, it's distracting him from HA as an idea and as a forum. He should stick to where the meat is - expatriation, foreign dating, etc. instead of conspiracy theories that don't even make any sense whatsoever. He's missing the mark here. I mean, his most pressing issue is looking for a Chinese wife that he is fully attracted to. Spending so much time on a crazy idea is taking away too much from his efforts at wife-hunting I think. Maybe it's a symptom of his frustration.


He's never actually going to find that wife though. I am about 90% certain of that. He's too crazy, too fickle, too picky, too stubborn and already in his forties which makes him too set in his ways to positively change. He has a demon inside him, and that demon is named Winston. But as we all know Winston calls him Murphy.


You are no prophet or psychic Marcos. And you are so delusional that you even deny basic facts that everyone can see, such as genetics and racial differences, etc. So your credibility has been undermined and you shouldn't be making predictions since you have a low accuracy rate in your predictions. Your predictions about this forum all failed. You are not qualified to be a predictor of anything.

In China I see lots of ugly/fat/old guys with hot girls everyday. Often multiple times a day. So if they can get hot girls, why can't I? Must be something against me from above, such as Murphy's Law or heavenly forces against me. Some people are cursed or have bad karma in some areas of life. It's true, whether you acknowledge it or not.

Why don't you guys try to help by praying to have the curses and bad luck in relationships removed from my life? Do something constructive for once.

Ghost,
Sorry Ghost, but you are losing the flat earth debate. You have dodged many points and not studied both sides. True freethinkers study both sides of an issue objectively. You don't. You already made up your mind before doing any research. I follow the evidence. You haven't done that. You falsely assume that Copernicus is infallible and can't be questioned. You forget that Copernicus never proved that the Earth was spinning or moving. In spite of that, the scientific establishment took it as gospel truth because their agenda is to make us think that our lives are meaningless and that our world is insignificant and that there is no God, etc. to promote their Luciferian agenda and NWO. You don't see the big picture Ghost. That's why you don't investigate. Remember that Einstein said that condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance. I've researched both sides. You haven't.

Btw, my interests are DIVERSIFIED. I'm a truth seeker. My joy comes from the search for truth. If I focus all my efforts on finding a wife, I will be unhappy and miserable all the time, because its not my destiny to succeed. Just like you are always complaining about your unhappiness in our WeChat group. So is magnum. You see, if you put all your eggs in one basket, your whole life hangs on that, and can fall if it doesn't go well. That's why you should diversify your interests, have multiple interests, so your life doesn't become all about one thing. Make sense?

Your interests should be BALANCED. I have many interests. So my life is not all about one thing. Yeah I'm seeking a wife and spend time doing that. But I also study many subjects too, because I'm a truth seeker and intellectual and freethinker. That's what gives my life purpose and meaning. You understand? The soul of a truth seeker understands this. But not everyone here has the same soul as me.

Btw, the flat earth issue and geocentric issue is important, because it means that our life has meaning and purpose and a divine creator, and that we are not a meaningless cosmic accident as atheists and evolutionists claim. That's HUGE man. How can you not see that? Geez. Why are you so narrow on certain issues? I'm one of the few people who is open minded about nearly everything. Most people, including here, are not.

Some of you are too negative and jaded and using everything you can to put me down. The negativity here is too extreme and sickening.
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Re: Why Doesn't Winston Wu defend his own forum?

Postby onethousandknives » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:56 am

OK Winston, now you're just trolling us all.
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Re: Why Doesn't Winston Wu defend his own forum?

Postby Ghost » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:55 am

I'm just not that interested in the flat earth "debate." I post about it a little, but you post so many links and lists that someone would have to treat it like a full time job just keeping up with all of it. It would be much better to go through one thing at a time until it is resolved and then move on. Most people who believe in God and believe that humans are special also believe in the spherical earth. I don't know why you are trying to conflate spherical earth and atheism. That doesn't make any sense.

I don't read every single link you post or every bullet list (God knows there's too much to keep up with, hahaha) but I have looked at some and didn't find anything concrete and compelling. I watched that video series about the flat earth (I forgot if it was 12 or 15 parts, it was a lot) and the guy in the video did was ask people to be open-minded while trying to suggest that a flat earth is possible. It was silly. He even used that movie "The Truman Show" as "evidence." Come on. That kind of stuff is silly and isn't evidence for a flat earth, much less proving anything.

And the "debate" is also silly because the flat earth side just instantly dismisses everything as fake without reason. It's not that there's no evidence for the spherical earth, it's that flat earthers refuse to acknowledge it. So the entire fake debate is really pointless.

Why not go back to HA's core purpose of expatriation and foreign dating? That's where the real value is. I wonder if you had spent as much time on that as you do the flat earth, you could be a bigger online persona than "man-o-sphere" frauds and doofuses like Doosh V, Reverse Male, Sandman, etc.
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Re: Why Doesn't Winston Wu defend his own forum?

Postby Winston » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:33 am

OP,
How am i not defending my forum? From what and who exactly? Can you be more specific? Who is the attacker or invader here?
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Re: Why Doesn't Winston Wu defend his own forum?

Postby Winston » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:42 am

Hi everyone,
Im at the airport now in hong kong waiting for my flight to korea. Wow the food here is such a ripoff. But the wifi at this airport is so fast. Ive never seen my forum load up so fast before.

I am thinking of you all. Wish youd all bring a little more positivity in this forum. The negativity here is too extreme. There needs to be some balance. Just as focusing only on the positive is fake and denialistic, so too is only focusing on the negative. A positive attitude cult may be delusional and BS, but so can a negative attitude cult as well, which we seem to have here. Neither extreme is good.
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Re: Why Doesn't Winston Wu defend his own forum?

Postby MarcosZeitola » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:47 am

Winston wrote:In China I see lots of ugly/fat/old guys with hot girls everyday. Often multiple times a day. So if they can get hot girls, why can't I? Must be something against me from above, such as Murphy's Law or heavenly forces against me. Some people are cursed or have bad karma in some areas of life. It's true, whether you acknowledge it or not.


I never said you could not get a hot girl, Winston. No one here denies your ability to get them. However, we have all seen your inability to keep them. I personally think it's bad karma that holds you back. Bad karma you could absolve yourself from, and I think you know what area of your life this is related to? Your own personality is another factor that cannot be overlooked - you are an intensely selfish person. Not really relationship material because, like the Western women you despise, you are fickle and prone to changing your mind on a moment's notice.

So yeah, maybe you are cursed. I hope you find what you are looking for, but I am very skeptical. I guess I'll check in a few years from now and see what happened. Change and prove me wrong. Good luck! :D
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Re: Why Doesn't Winston Wu defend his own forum?

Postby Cornfed » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:11 am

Winston wrote:OP,
How am i not defending my forum? From what and who exactly? Can you be more specific? Who is the attacker or invader here?

I believe that Blue Murder, Farmer308 and various others are in fact the same troll poster. But because the troll is being reasonable subtle about her trolling now, you would not see this unless you were on the forum on a regular basis. Hence you, as the admin, really need to spend more time here to judge these things for yourself. (Incidentally, the name "Farmer308" seems to be a parody of one of my sometime Internet handles. At least the troll retains a sense of humor). Instead of outright attack, as they did when getting rid of PAN, the idea seems to be a gradual discouragement and displacement of regular posters until the forum dies.
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Re: Why Doesn't Winston Wu defend his own forum?

Postby PeterAndrewNolan » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:42 am

mahadeveshwara wrote:Because the man is a gigantic p***y. He is surfeited to make $2000 per month off of the moniker and concept of "Happier Abroad" and "free speech," while claiming to spend 10 hours per week on this site. (On what, exactly?)

I'm glad I'm not a fat Asian man who derives his income from the contributions of others. To have free speech you need to defend it like a monarch, dumbshit. But yet you're content to just collect money like the effete that you are. I'm glad I make my money working on technology and not leeching off of others like a dumbshit.

Lol this guy even f***ing censors swear words like the gigantic human p***y that he is


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Re: Why Doesn't Winston Wu defend his own forum?

Postby PeterAndrewNolan » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:55 am

Cornfed wrote: Instead of outright attack, as they did when getting rid of PAN, the idea seems to be a gradual discouragement and displacement of regular posters until the forum dies.


Hey Cornfed,
not sure what you mean "getting rid of PAN".

I had my say here.

Winston was kind enough to host me even though Michael Toal was posting animal porn that was hurting Winstons search engine results.

There was just not much more for me to say.

I got tired of repeating myself and being ignored.

We had a chance to stop the slow decline of the west and the slide in to a larger conflict in 2010/2011.

But I was told, in 2013, that "many will perish and this is as it should be".

Look how people treat each other....and then try and tell me the committee of 300 is wrong for culling back these useless eaters.


Anyway...

Nowadays I run Manbook and the Mens Business Association Education Channel for any men who actually want to live a life they love and learn things...and we both know that they are very few men indeed. Crimes Against Fathers is still going well for hits. No one is updating it any more but it just purrs along. The adsense pays for it.

Over the last 12 months I have studied how to do internet marketing a number of ways and John Rambo and I are going to work together in that direction as well.

With manbook I have learned how to use the Newspaper Theme very well and learned about getting adsense clicks.

If you look on this page you will see the ad to the right of the video.

http://www.manbook.biz/2015/12/02/russian-jet-shoot-down-what-theyre-not-telling-you/

I get a click per 50 page views on video pages like that at an average of nearly AUD1 per click.

That is about 5x more clicks than the banner ad on the front page by views per click ratio.

So on that site I am going to run traffic to videos and pick up the ad clicks. Simple.

I have also been experimenting with sites for women....and did you know women click ads about 5x as often as men do?

I have bought a string of about 10 sites that we are going to put up and run traffic to....

I have a VPS in the US that I can scale out to anything I want.....

Some guys are making USD2K a month per site on adsense.......there are certain ideas and secrets you need to learn to do this....and that is what I have been picking up.

I am also back in my BI biz and I am doing Empower Network too...

Sad thing is....guys will not listen and learn from me.....so John Rambo and I have decided we should give up on talking to guys because they will not listen and we should just create web sites and run traffic to them for the IM revenues. John is a bit of a wiz on the web as you know.

I am collecting email addresses in to my autoresponder and presenting good value offers out to my list....it's not that hard but it does take some time to establish a "style" in your communication.

Lots of people leave....but some stay and some of them buy.....simple really.
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Re: Why Doesn't Winston Wu defend his own forum?

Postby PeterAndrewNolan » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:04 am

Winston wrote:Hi everyone,
Im at the airport now in hong kong waiting for my flight to korea. Wow the food here is such a ripoff. But the wifi at this airport is so fast. Ive never seen my forum load up so fast before.

I am thinking of you all. Wish youd all bring a little more positivity in this forum. The negativity here is too extreme. There needs to be some balance. Just as focusing only on the positive is fake and denialistic, so too is only focusing on the negative. A positive attitude cult may be delusional and BS, but so can a negative attitude cult as well, which we seem to have here. Neither extreme is good.


Hi Winston,
The new airport in HK was never my favourite....the old one was much more interesting...especially landing in Typhoons! LOL!!

Yeah...too much negativity here....and in most places in the man-o-sphere.

I have been listening to a lot of the inner circle audios for Empower Network....amazing stuff. It is all part of re-tuning ones mind to how to be successful in IM.

A lot of it is about positivity and mindset....but not polly anna positivity or "positive thinking".

Much more like guys telling their stories of the adversity they have overcome and pointing out "you can do this too".

With my BI biz running again, about to relocate, solid clients paying consulting fees, and IM working out?

I am much more positive now in terms of money than I have been since 2011. I have not had a work permit for 4 years so I have had to borrow money from friends....quite a bit.

It will be nice to pay them back.

The very fact that men are still bitching and moaning and complaining rather than taking my long standing advice means, to me, in my humble opinion, that the cull the committee of 300 is undertaking is absolutely the right thing to do....and I see good times ahead for those of us who know how to make sure we are not part of that cull.

As the west slowly declines there will be great opportunities to make money from the decline. Also, places like Russia and India are on the rise and I will be doing business in both places as well as business in the US.

All it really took for me to get back on track was to stop trying to help other men for free...stop trying to give men good advice for free....they don't appreciate it....indeed they hate you for it.

I will not talk too much about my new BI biz because Michael Toal is still trolling me etc.....he is a total looney...

You see the first post got 415 views so far?! LOL! He is PISSED OFF at that!

If you type "Michael Toal" in to google the CAF entry is #2, right below linked in.

http://www.manbook.biz/2015/11/23/michael-toal-complete-nutter/
http://www.manbook.biz/2015/11/24/michael-toal-complete-nutter-part-2/
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Re: Why Doesn't Winston Wu defend his own forum?

Postby Winston » Sat Dec 05, 2015 10:13 am

You guys need to start taking responsibility here. Together we all make this forum either a great place or a very negative place. You guys should defend this forum if you want it to be defended. Don't depend on me for everything. A forum is a group discussion. Each one of us is a factor. Not just me. So start taking up responsibility guys.
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Re: Why Doesn't Winston Wu defend his own forum?

Postby Rock » Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:19 pm

Winston wrote:You guys need to start taking responsibility here. Together we all make this forum either a great place or a very negative place. You guys should defend this forum if you want it to be defended. Don't depend on me for everything. A forum is a group discussion. Each one of us is a factor. Not just me. So start taking up responsibility guys.


You are the one who needs to lead by example. Everyone looks to you to set the tone and shape things. Frankly, you don't give this forum enough time or attention. You let trolls do days or weeks of damage and then often just slap them on the wrist if you're not in the banning mood.

You've also contributed to the fragmentation of the tiny poster base by putting so much time and energy in alternative channels. I'm convinced that the FB group, wechat group, and private spinoff groups have created a lot more damage than synergy.

These days, I get my best HA inspiration from chats to certain members offline, by viewing their photos, or participating in certain groups. For example, I have to go to FB to read about Steve Neese's most recent trip reports and updates in Russia and Ukraine.

The forum itself has become overtaken more off the wall type of threads and discussions. It's no longer a one-stop shop for core HA types of posting - trip reports, experiences abroad, socializing, dating, studying, working and making money, or learning languages in countries or areas which rate highly on HA scale.

It's clear that you ignore a lot of the posts and don't really seem to care much. I've seen it happen a few times where a generally well known poster of many months or years were unknown or almost unknown to you.

You are the leader of the movement and owner and chief admin of the site so if you set that sort of example, it will ultimately drive the whole tone and feel of the place. Many higher value prolific or productive posters have moved on. The quality of your more current content has dropped off IMO and the opinion of many others.

If you would make more serious effort here, I think it would attract a lot more where that came from. If you don't give a damn, why should any of us?
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Re: Why Doesn't Winston Wu defend his own forum?

Postby MarcosZeitola » Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:20 pm

Winston wrote:You guys need to start taking responsibility here. Together we all make this forum either a great place or a very negative place. You guys should defend this forum if you want it to be defended. Don't depend on me for everything. A forum is a group discussion. Each one of us is a factor. Not just me. So start taking up responsibility guys.


Whether or not HA is worth defending, at this point, is debatable.
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Re: Why Doesn't Winston Wu defend his own forum?

Postby Yohan » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:41 pm

Winston wrote:You guys need to start taking responsibility here. Together we all make this forum either a great place or a very negative place. You guys should defend this forum if you want it to be defended. Don't depend on me for everything. A forum is a group discussion. Each one of us is a factor. Not just me. So start taking up responsibility guys.


You cannot say that so easily, Winston.

There are an administrator, moderators and ordinary members.

Ordinary members are not responsible for anything, but also have no rights with this forum.

Responsible is the owner of the forum but the owner has also the right to create and guide his forum in the way which fits him.

I was writing over 11000 comments in a certain forum since it was created during almost 10 years, and suddenly the owner/admin got crazy and kicked me out. Now that forum is down to maybe 3 comments per week, from some best friends to other best friends, subject about drinking beer and otherwise BS and as replies are smileys or brainless one-liners.

Just to make it clear,
all what is going on in a forum is up to the owner/admin.

Generally I think however your HA-Forum might be controversial, but it is a good place nevertheless.

HA as its principle is serious about 'free speech' and far away from 'over-moderation', editing, banning etc. which is really the worst a forum-admin can do.
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Re: Why Doesn't Winston Wu defend his own forum?

Postby WorldTraveler » Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:33 am

MarcosZeitola wrote:
Yohan wrote:Winston perfectly understands, that not to care anymore is indeed much better than to care too much. Simply said, no moderation is better than over-moderation or insincere biased moderation of a forum. This can really ruin a forum with members are either banned or leaving by themselves.


But when it's nothing but trolls, prophets of doom, pessimism and support for conspiracy for the sake of supporting conspiracies, it's pretty clear that we're not going anywhere anymore. Quality is lessening.

OutWest wrote:This could have been a useful expat guide kind of place, but it is poorly managed. From what I see, traffic is off about 50%.


Was it ever a useful expat forum? I came here when 'the golden age' was already over, did I miss much or was it always this shitty?

OutWest wrote:The impression a visitor would get here is that the forum was somehow mislabeled. What he would see here is that Hitler was a great man, the world is flat, all conspiracy theories are true, the Jews deserved to die and there are a lot of seriously mentally ill people off their meds.. Great business plan. Lol


Spot-on!

This forum has zero appeal to the vast majority of "normal" people. To feel at home here, truly at home, you'd have to be a bit of a nutjob. I suspect Winston has a variety of mental disorders, and he's not the only one. A lot of people here are compulsive conspiracy theorists. Scares off a lot of the non-crazies from even signing up in the first place, and the remainder from staying around.


I've been here since the beginning. At one time it was good. Posting all these stupid conspiracy theories, and was Hitler a great guy, doesn't belong on a Happier Abroad forum. In the beginning Mr. S and Ladislav posted frequently and you could actually learn something.
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