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[Teal Lantern]

I never met her in person. We Skyped and talked a lot.

Sorry, I thought she was the girl from your "Dark Side of Pinays" thread.

I was ready to commit even from across the world, but then she revealed that she lied to me about her virgin status.

Counter-intuitively, if a woman isn't sizing you up as a wallet or for project baby, you can have a more honest dialogue with her.

For a connection like that, it was f***ing tragic. Some might jump down my throat given that I was ready to start something without meeting her in person first. Fair enough, if they want to - but I insist: the reason I was willing to was that she was much smarter than the majority of females and we connected so smoothly and could talk about virtually anything. Contrast that to the provincial pinays who are dumb as rocks, with whom I can't get a coherent answer to the question "what did you do today?" She was pretty, too, but far from being a knockout. That wasn't what our attraction was about.

No criticism from me. I've been there .. a few times.
The smart ones can be even more dangerous than the bumpkins in certain ways.
She'll have you thinking your screening has finally paid off.
Easy to talk to, gets your jokes, good with word play, just happens to share your interests and future dreams, etc.
What? You like xyz? Me too! ♥♥
A smarter predator with a longer term plan. Lying's just another tool in the makeup bag.
Fortunately (for me) they blundered in some way or other and I didn't take the final plunge, but it certainly wasn't due to my own cleverness.

[Boxman]

I'm kinda with Ghost in seeing the futility of it all. I guess it depends on what you're willing to put up with though. While I am young enough to still get casual encounters with regular girls I can do that. When I get to old, I guess it's p4p. Marriage and family are dead in the modern world unless you're lucky enough or put in the work necessary to end up in a situation like Marcos Zeitola. I already missed that boat.

Why did you miss that boat? Just curious what your thinking is.

[The_Adventurer]

I'm kinda with Ghost in seeing the futility of it all. I guess it depends on what you're willing to put up with though. While I am young enough to still get casual encounters with regular girls I can do that. When I get to old, I guess it's p4p. Marriage and family are dead in the modern world unless you're lucky enough or put in the work necessary to end up in a situation like Marcos Zeitola. I already missed that boat.

Why did you miss that boat? Just curious what your thinking is.

Some years ago I had a cute, caring filipina from a great family. They didn't need a dime from me, and, in fact, helped us out quite often. Eventually, I left her, and the Philippines, in my own continuing pursuit of money and success. She's now married to someone else and had a kid. I'm kind of stuck in a grind in China.

You may note I wrote, "... unless you're lucky enough or put in the work necessary to end up in a situation...". I don't know if I am lucky enough to find something that good again, but I am definitely not willing to put in the work necessary.

[Ghost]

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[cdnFA]

I'm really not seeing the bright side to women anymore. Now my plans have to shift away from doing things the traditional way. It's dead. But even that traditional way was always about benefiting the twats and screwing over the man. Well, he got to have his own offspring and a virgin wife. But the kids may not really have been his and the virginity may not have been real either. It has all been a big f***ing sham. I want a way out.

MGTOW + Mr Hand + Porn + getting a cat or dog = A way out.

[Ghost]

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[cdnFA]

MGTOW + Mr Hand + p**n + getting a cat or dog = A way out.

That's anything but a way out.

If women are that horrible, it's the best of a bad option.
You drop your load, you get affection [hopefully not from the same source, no besto]
And you have financial room to manoeuvre.

[Boxman]

Or you could just keep at it; pretending to be poor (maybe not pretending lol) while continuing to pursue the ladies abroad. If you find one willing to put up with your broke ass, you know you've got a keeper.

This is my plan.

[The_Adventurer]

I want a way out.

There is one. ISLAM. Choose a beautiful virgin bride, based on looks alone, and pay a dowry with a money back guarantee! (and stoning for her if she lied about virginity)

[cdnFA]

I want a way out.

(and stoning for her if she lied about virginity)

Forget that. Let her get her own weed.

It's a joke people.

[Ghost]

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[cdnFA]

Women are that horrible indeed, but aren't truly the problem. Women are to The Problem as a sore throat is to influenza. Money is only a problem only inasmuch as Western society funnels as many resources (jobs, money, subsidies of various sorts) to females as possible. All of humanity's deepest problems are self-imposed and arbitrary. This is what I always come back to and what always gets me. None of this bullshit is a must. The subtle horrors of the modern world exist because that is what we chose. It's sublimely nuts.

My solution above avoids that which is horrible. Regardless of if they are the problem or a side effect of the problem, avoidance of horrible is a good thing.
Also by not trying to compete for women, you get to avoid the whole rat race. If this is your view surely it would be better to funnel resources to the true master race, our feline overlords than women.

I don't know your exact deal but if the system sucks and you seem to think it does and you can't change anything then the option of avoiding the system and not contributing to it is all that is left. If things repel you enough.

A life of porn and masturbation isn't so bad, throw in a few close friends or some pets and you are got it going pretty good.

[Ghost]

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[cdnFA]

In our world, p**n = soma

You don't like women and you don't want porn. Sounds like the hard mode no fap life is for you. On the plus side as I understand it, it brings back the wet dreams. I miss those.