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Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?
A Short Essay by John Doe
Is it cheaper to have sex with normal women than with prostitutes? No, and here is why.
When you have sex with a normal girl, it's by no means "free". You have to take her out to dinner, buy her drinks, and you might have to go on two or even three dates before you will have sex with her. If you add up the total costs of these three dates, it would be approxiately around 400 dollars.
Now let's look at the cost of the average high quality prostitute. You can bang a prostitute for 2 hours for 250 dollars.
What are the benefits of using prostitutes instead of dating normal women?
1. The average prostitute is far hotter than the average normal woman you can date.
2. YOU get to do the choosing, and the power of choice is in YOUR hands, instead of in the woman's hands
3. With a prostitute, you have sex with her and that's it. No emotional drama, no mind games, no bull****, like there is with normal women.
4. You don't have to waste hours of your valuable time that you could otherwise spend on making money, taking women out on dates or trying to pick up women in bars and clubs. No, instead you pay a prostitute for one or two hours of her time, have sex with her, and leave.
5. You choose WHEN you want to have sex. So let's say you're a busy businessman, instead of wasting 5 hours at a bar or on a date, instead you'd spend only one or two hours with a prostitute, and that at your convience too. YOU are the one who chooses WHEN, and so you save a LOT of time.
6. Prostites are DEFINITELY cheaper than getting married. Overall, through a 10 year marriage and divorce, you'd end up spending at least 250,000 dollars. Now let's take that number and divide it by 250 dollars, which is the average price of a high quality prostitute in a Western country. That is sex with 1000 different high quality prostitutes. Now if you talk to any married man, who is HONEST, he will admit that sex with the wife after the first 6 months or year starts to get boring. And this is why people in long term relationships barely have sex, because it's BORING having sex with the same person time after time. Variety is the spice of life! You could have sex with 1000 different women for the same price it would cost to marry one woman and have sex with her. And considering how unstable most western women are nowadays, the chance of divorce is around 60%, with the woman initiating the divorce 90% of the time. You are likely to lose at least 50% of your assets and savings in a divorce, and so marriage to a western woman may end up costing you up to 500,000 dollars or even a million dollars, once you add in the divorce costs and long term child payment and alimony costs.
So let's take that number, one million dollars, and divide it by 250. That's 4000 DIFFERENT women you could pay to have sex with, instead of marrying one woman who will just end up turning into a bitch and divorcing you anyway. So it's your choice guys. Would you rather marry one woman, who will get bored of sex after 6 months, and end up stealing all your assets and savings in divorce, or would you rather have sex with 4000 different beautiful women for the same price?
Another very relevant point is that the world of modern dating has become quite risky. Most women see nothing wrong with making a false rape accusation against a man. Most rape cases are fake and are done out of a motive of REVENGE by the woman. Did you break up with your girlfriend? Watch out, she might make a false rape accusation against you just to get revenge. Did you cheat on your girl with another girl? Watch out, she might make a false rape accusation just to get revenge on you. Forgot to tell your girlfriend "happy birthday"? Watch out, she might make a false rape accusation against you in order to get revenge on you. At least 90% of rape cases are FALSE, the sex was CONSENSUAL and the woman later changed her mind AFTER the act and decided "oh it was rape". LOL. And this is why the police no longer take rape cases seriously, because literally 90% of women who claim to have been raped are LYING!
So that is another HUGE benefit of prostitues. A prostitute won't make a false rape accusation against you.
What's another GREAT reason that men choose to use prostitutes? Because by paying for sex, they can have sex with a MUCH hotter quality of woman than they would normally. For example, if we rate women on a scale of 1 to 10 in terms of beauty. The average guy will be able to pick up and have sex with a 4 or a 5 from a bar, a club, or Tinder. Meanwhile, if the same man paid for sex with a high quality prostitute for $250 dollars (about the same amount of money he would spend picking up a 4 or 5 from a bar, club, or Tinder), the prostitute he would have sex with would be an 8 or 9 on the beauty scale. So for the same amount of money, he can have sex with a much hotter woman, and with much less effort too. Think about all the effort you have to put in to go to a bar or club. You have to buy good clothes, you have to spend lots of money on drinks and food, and also have to spend a lot of money on making sure your apartment is cool and stylish so the girl will feel comfortable there. So unless you're a man who was blessed with the looks of Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise and have women chasing after you, the easiest and cheapest option for most men to have sex with the hottest quality of women is to simply PAY for sex with a hot prostitute. One guy was asked why he paid to have sex with prostitutes and his reply was "If I’m being brutally honest, the hottest women I’ve ever had sex with have been prostitutes … I would never be able to have sex with women who are ridiculously hot unless they were prostitutes.” I can also personally testify to this point. The types of chicks I was getting from Tinder were mostly fat or at best mildly hot, I would have rated them between a 3 and a 6 on the attraction scale. Then the first time I went to a prostitute, I was blown away with the options and the QUALITY too. Here were super hot girls who I could bang for such a cheap price. Needless to say, I gave up on dating and ONLY bang prostitutes now. I'm a much happier and peaceful person as a result.
Another couple of reasons that men gave as to why they choose to have sex with prostitutes are:
"Getting a prostitute is so easy: no strings attached, you can choose the woman you want before you purchase, then they arrive at your door. Couldn’t be easier."
I can also testify to this. Getting a normal girl to have sex is a real pain in the ass and involves so much struggle, drama, and mind games. Then of course after you have sex with her, you have to deal with her stalking you, calling you so many times, and with her unrealistic expectation that you are going to have a committed and exclusively relationship with her. All that compared with the EASE of banging a hot prostitute, and the choice is simple. I chose to not waste time trying to date women anymore and only bang hot prostitutes now.
“We want to have sex without all the bull**** of pretending to be really interested in a girl. When you pay for sex, you don’t have to swap numbers at the end when you know you won’t call. You pay, have sex, she leaves. Everyone’s happy.”
This goes along with the above point. With normal women and dating, you have to PRETEND to care about her and PRETEND to be interested in her, when in reality all you want is to have sex with her. With a prostitute, there is no pretensions and that really is a beautiful thing because ultimately then sex becomes about the raw physical act as well as the pure attractiveness of the woman, and thus you are able to enjoy sex a lot more.
Lastly, let's touch on the issue of legalization. On average surveys, 70 percent of men said they would vote to legalize prostitution, meanwhile 60 percent of women said they would vote to keep prostitution illegal. Now it's pretty obvious why women want to keep prostitution illegal. Women use sex as a weapon to control men. So it would disrupt the economics of women's control over sex if prostitution was legalized, because then MEN would have control over WHO they want to have sex with and WHEN. Forget all those arguments about morality, the REAL reason women want to keep prostitution illegal is so that they can CONTINUE to control men with sex. In effect, women are like a mafia that is desperate to keep control of the sexual marketplace. If prostitution was legal, men would be a lot less inclined to put up with women's bull**** just to get sex from them, when they can go pay for sex from a much more attractive woman and without all the hassles and drama that dating and normal women bring.
What about STDs some of you might say? Well the whole STD scare is mostly a MYTH that has been blown way out of proportion by feminists and conservative religious leaders in order to scare men away from having sex. In reality, the rate of transmission of AIDS is 1 out of 700 during heterosexual sex. That is, if a man had penis to vagina intercourse with an AIDS-infected woman, it would take 700 times on average before he would contract it. The only way people get AIDS is through using needles to inject drugs, or having anal sex, especially with homosexuals. So the whole AIDS thing is a huge scare, a MYTH, that has been blown way out of proportion.
What about Herpes? Well studies show that 80% of the US population already has Herpes in one of it's forms, so that is not really an issue.
The only other STD that you would have to worry about is Chlamydia, and it can be easily cured within 3 days with antibiotics.
Now, that is UNPROTECTED sex. If you are using condoms to have sex with, then the chances of getting any of these STDs becomes less than zero. And that includes oral sex as well. Most prostitutes will insist that you always use a condom, even during oral sex. So as long as you are using condoms, then STDs are nothing you should even remotely worry about.
So what are some of the main reasons why prostitution should be legalized?
1. If prostitution was legal, it would reduce the STD transmission rate by about 50% amongst prostitutes.
2. If prostitution was legal, it would reduce rape by at least 150%.
Many studies have shown that legal prostitution reduces rape, sexual assault, and other sex crimes by a lot. The same studies have shown that legal prostitution reduces the STD rate amongst the general population by about 50%.
3. The real number of human trafficking victims in the prostitution industry is actually less than 5%. But if prostitution was fully legal, the tiny number of women who are forced into prostitution involuntarily would be able to go to the poliec to get help and escape from their pimps. Keeping prostitution illegal hurts prostitutes the most, so it's funny how feminists want to keep prostitution illegal and yet at the same time claim they care about women's health and women's rights. Feminism is nothing but the biggest pile of bull**** hypocrisy the world has ever seen.
4. Feminists say "my body, my choice". So if 95% of prostitutes are VOLUNTARILY engaging in prostitution, then why should those women have the RIGHT to choose what to do with their own bodies, even if that includes trading sex for money? What right does the government or anyone else have to tell two consenting adults that they cannot exchange money for sex?
5. It would save a lot of money and resources from our police and government. Tens of millions of dollars a year are wasted by our police and government arresting and putting prostitutes in jail. If prostitution was LEGAL, on the other hand, and taxed and regulated, it would bring in tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars a year in tax revenue for our government, as well as freeing up valuable police time for REAL crimes like rape, theft, murder, assault, etc.
6. If prostitution was legal, prostitutes would have legal rights and would not longer get taken advantage of by pimps and other shady figures, including corrupt police officers. Yes, the police also contribute to the oppression of prostitutes because there are many corrupt police officers out there who blackmail and extort prostitutes for money and/or sexual favors. If prostitution was legal, all of this would end and prostitutes would finally have legal rights.
7. Prostitution is the world's oldest profession. It is NEVER going to stop no matter how much the police or government tries to stop it. There are ALWAYS going to be men who are willing to pay money for sex, and there are ALWAYS going to be women who are willing to give sex to men for money. Prostitution has also been an integral part of many cultures and thus trying to stop it is literally impossible. And why should it be stopped? No one has the right to tell two consenting adults that they cannot exchange money for sex. So rather than waste time trying to stop it, just legalize it and tax it, the same way we do with cigarettes, alcohol, and now marijuana.
All in all, I believe in personal freedom. I believe that no one has the right to force their own sense of morality onto others. In some very ancient cultures, prostitutes were actually given very high status in society and considered as spiritual people who could heal men of their problems through sex. That was thousands of years ago though, before self-righteous modern western religions were invented and started violently forcing their concepts of morality onto people. Funny how societies that were thousands of years old were actually far more advanced than we are in the modern age in terms of sex and prostitutes.
It took almost a century for people to wake up and legalize marijuana, which is a completely harmless natural plant that hurts no one. In the same way, society and people in general have to EVOLVE and realize that they have no right to force their own sense of morality or control onto others. The modern society is actually a very sexually restrictive society, compared to cultures and civilizations of the past. And it's this sexual restrictiveness which contributes to so much psychological neurosis, sex crimes, and frustration in general. Is it a coincidence how people in America are so quick to anger and lose their temper, whereas in a place like Thailand where prostitution is legal and accepted, people are very laid back and cool headed? People need to stop seeing sex as such a big thing, and just realize that sex is a normal and acceptable part of life.
With that said, I believe that I have covered all the points as to why prostitution should be legal and an accepted part of society, and so this essay comes to a close. Please feel free to copy, paste, and distribute this essay as my goal is to influence and educate as many people as possible, the only thing I ask is that you do not change it or edit it in any way whatsoever. Thank you very much
Last edited by JohnDoeBigBaller on October 17th, 2016, 6:18 am, edited 2 times in total.
It's funny, the United States is one of the few countries in the world where prostitution is illegal. It SHOULD become legal here in America that would solve a whole bunch of problems and the tax revenue from legalizing prostitution would help to pay off the national debt.
"When I think about the idea of getting involved with an American woman, I don't know if I should laugh .............. or vomit!"
"Trying to meet women in America is like trying to decipher Egyptian hieroglyphics."
Absolute cope. I've never had a hooker session that didn't leave me feeling ripped off afterwards. $300/hour is the going rate, and the "girls" are all over 25 and gross.
Compare that to young Chad who gets constant access to his cute college sweetheart(s) for free, and you see what a sham hookerceling is.
$300 in my metro area would get you a high-end escort. $150-200/hr would be more reasonable for a decent middle-of-the-road hooker. But anyways...
$300/hr * 26 times/year = $8k/year. Many guys I know who are married have wives that spend much more than that a year on stupid shit, on top of other costs, like food, housing, a car etc. This doesn't even factor in a potential divorce which would completely wipe them out financially. Most of these guys get it fewer than 26 times a year, and even then it's just boring routine sex where their wife gives in to get it over with. And the wives have usually let themselves go, bigtime.
My preference is to take three or four trips lasting 5-6 days to Central America and the Caribbean every year. The women are good looking, very cheap, I can "vacation"/relax/drink during the day, and it's completely legal - so no worries about walking into a sting and getting arrested.
I use prostitutes, or at least I have in the past. Big supporter of the profession.
This article is just plain old wrong on many counts.
2 hours for 250 bucks? Not in Canada or the US unless you are going after grannies and tweekers. Numbers either 30 years out of date or just pulled out of his ass.
His dating scenario is only one. Consider this option.
You have 5 dates with a girl. You see 2 movies that were really good and you wanted to see. You eat food that you enjoy eating. You enjoy interesting conversation with an elegant charming girl who is thin with a pretty face and dresses like a non slutty librarian. You pay your way, she pays her, actually every time you hit a Timmies [it's Canada eh] she actually heads to the cash first and asks if you want anything, the first movie you see together she was going to pay and you had to push the issue to pay for her way also because you are motivated to treat her, she pays the second movie, you don't even have to ask. Oh and 4 of those dates you got to hug her fine ass body. Yeah I know, things are going slow but she spent her formative decades under Maoist china and she has a lot of legal stress on her mind and she is worth taking it slow. If spending time with a girl is considered a downside, get someone else.
I do 2 hour sessions for 400 or 500 bucks [or I used to] and every time I felt like I wanted more time, even with someone who isn't a clock watcher, she is still a clock watcher.
I will agree that for most dudes prostitutes will or at least can be hotter.
" the chance of divorce is around 60%, with the woman initiating the divorce 90% of the time. You are likely to lose at least 50% of your assets and savings in a divorce, and so marriage to a western woman may end up costing you up to 500,000 dollars or even a million dollars, once you add in the divorce costs and long term child payment and alimony costs."
60% is a lie, it's apparently 40 in Canada and a bit higher in the US but it never reached 60. Also that stat includes second and third marriages which do fail at very high rates. Those stats also include everyone from human garbage to decent people. If you think all women are just like the adult version of Honey Boo Boo, you live in a fantasy land and we have nothing more to discuss.
As for initiation, the usual stat tossed around here is 70% and there are potential legit reasons for that beyond the women are c**ts excuse.
If you don't want to lose half your shit, get a pre nup. If you have kids with the woman, it is reasonable that you pony up something and you can't have kids with a prostitute so apples and oranges.
Sex with the same girl loses it's appeal after a while. Sure I'll buy that. However there are other compensations.
90% of rape charges are false? Sure, and 90% of men are rapists. This guy is just pulling numbers out of his ass. I've seen numbers from Terb.cc resident MRA guy and they don't go anywhere near that high. You didn't wish me happy birthday so I will charge you with rape, said no sane person ever. If someone was that psychotic you would see the signs long before it got to that stage. It just makes the article look stupid.
Instead of finding a girl you have to pretend to be interested in, maybe find someone you are interested in.
"In reality, the rate of transmission of AIDS is 1 out of 700 during heterosexual sex"
I am sure it is much less then that. It would take 3000 times topping a dude with AIDS to get it, I am sure it would be even higher for vaginal.
Which again causes me to question every so called stat he uses.
"What about Herpes? Well studies show that 80% of the US population already has Herpes in one of it's forms, so that is not really an issue."
There are two types of Herpes, most people have the oral version, the genital version which is what people freak out about is about 20% depending on population of course. Granted most won't ever know they have it and of those who get an outbreak, it is unlikely they will get a second. It is more a social disease than a medical one.
The only other STD that you would have to worry about is Chlamydia, and it can be easily cured within 3 days with antibiotics."
The only other STD, this mook has never heard of Gonorrhoea, Syphilis which is on the rise among sex workers and gays, HPV etc.
"Now, that is UNPROTECTED sex. If you are using condoms to have sex with, then the chances of getting any of these STDs becomes less than zero. And that includes oral sex as well. Most prostitutes will insist that you always use a condom, even during oral sex. So as long as you are using condoms, then STDs are nothing you should even remotely worry about.""
Maybe 20 years ago but these days BBBJs are on offer from I'd say a majority.
Also if your chances of getting STDS goes below zero does that mean condom use actually cures STDs Just sayin.
Again, all for legalization and use, but this article harms the cause doesn't help.
Prostitutes and normal women provide different things. There are horrible normal women but there are plenty of crap prostitutes out there also.
If you only interest in a woman is to drop a load in her presence [and really what are you 12?] than prostitutes are the way to go.
If you are so poor/fugly/socially retarded that you can't get a decent woman without lucking out [like me] than prostitutes are the way to go.
If you have something going for you there is something to be said for a normal woman.
A prostitute won't bring you lasagna to you at work.
This topic comes up on the escort review boards north of the border and it isn't as clear cut as the above article says.
Also the fact that this John Doe can get such a badly argued and error prone article published and quoted... all you space Jew flat earthers types might want to think on that.
1. I agree that divorce statistics are in general overblown. I don't remember the source, but I remember reading that the divorce rate among college-educated couples who married after age 25 is somewhere around 10%. In my own experience, most of the divorced people I know married right out of high school, without good jobs, usually there was an unplanned pregnancy, and at least one of the two were screwed up (angry, violent, psychotic, etc.)
2. Judges wipe their asses with prenups in the US all the time - sad, but true. As long as the woman can make the case that she didn't understand the prenup when it was signed, or that she felt "pressured" to sign it, the judge will void it immediately.
Very interesting post. You forgot that, in the areas where prostitution is legal, it seems that the women tend to really "step their game up." They can't just be mildly good-looking & throw some at the guy every now & then, but be a pain in the ass the rest of the time. I like that AND if a guy is dumb enough to f**k up something real for a 2-hour screw, then she can just pick up another guy MUCH more easily (when she's inclined).
The thing is, the "West" isn't all like that- it seems to mostly be the "anglo-sphere." Oddly enough, even GERMANY doesn't get all cranked-up over prostitution. Italy seems to have a bit of a Mother/Whore Complex, but I'd think it's not really hard to find a hooker in Italy. It seems lots of Scandinavia is okay with it & so is that area in the corner (like where Holland is).
As far as fixing things goes, I don't think it's really in America's nature to do so. When do they fix things? I haven't seen much of it & I've notice people making points about how America doesn't UNmake laws. Sure, people gripe about it. They get pissed-off & disillusioned. But they don't really shrug these things off or violently contradict the various diktats that come down from whatever mysterious sources. in fact, the people seem to worry too much about what would happen if a "Bad Guy" did that in different conditions to do much of anything about any act against them. The have a reflexive incongruency that is extremely dangerous in court & is just as dangerous in one of these wars that people always said would happen if 1/3 of the shit that goes on actually took place. My head's still reeling about that kid that had a maple leaf in his backpack that was lab-tested to not be pot, but still they just "kept on truckin'."
The leadership is worse than a joke. Their suggestions are frequently bad ones or useless at best & their arrogance prevents any kind of self-recrimination. It also makes pointing out problems much harder, since they keep thinking it's some kind of Earth-shattering thing to simply say that they don't give good advice. Yet, people keep trusting in their "expertise" that seems to largely be self-sanctioned or approved by a group that's "cut from the same cloth." They're plain nuts in various cases & the people that "screen" them are sometimes even worse. Look at Obama & how many times he's helped terrorism in one way or another. He just kept f***ing up the country with education, medical insurance, multiple military engagements, and simply acting like a saboteur. He doesn't get iced, but kids get killed over bullshit weed deals that might not have even happened?
In many cases prostitutes are in their own way more honest than normal women. Barter baed dating isn't really any different from cash based dating.
Some porn stars are funny, the way they claim a moral high ground over prostitutes because they "pick the guys they work with" uh huh.
On Indian/Desi women, they are rare up here. I don't think there are any in Montreal at least among independents, maybe agency girls?. There are some in Toronto though.
As far as prostitution versus marriage is concerned, if you carefully select a woman who does not believe in abandoning her husband and her marriage, a decent woman who has sex regularly with her husband, cooks and cleans, the wife is a much better deal.
My wife cooks all kinds of food that would cost me lots of money if I ate out. If I were single and alone, I might have to pay between 30 to $50 to eat meals that are similar, and there is no degree that they would taste as good. My wife cleans the bathroom and does laundry. Is a prostitute going to fold your shirts, socks, and underwear, and cook for you?
Lets say you get a dutiful wife who has sex with you three times a week, or one willing to go once a night. When I was a newlywed in my 20's, I got some kind of sexual action just about every night. We both went through some periods of illness, fevers and such, where we didn't get busy, but otherwise, for a solid two years, it was pretty much sexual release for me every night, and intercourse was every night at first and then every other night so she could rest and heal up. But I still got something good. $250 times 340 days is $85,000. I didn't make nearly that much back then, and I didn't spend that much on her on all the dates leading up to marriage or after we got married.
I also married a virgin, so I didn't have to worry about STDs, and I've read that there are lots of them besides the few famous ones that one can contract. Also, why would you want to sleep with a prostitute after other guys have been dumping their biological material right in there where you put your thang. That's pretty nasty.
Some wives work, too, and the money goes toward the household. Unless you are a pimp, a prostitute isn't going to help you with that.
And what about ethics. Your prostitute could conceive your baby and then murder your baby, or give birth to your baby and you never even know.
And also, having sex with a prostitute is a sin against God.
It seems to me like an admission of defeat, to see a prostitute. For this reason I have never seen one, plus the prices are too high and I just known I would have regretted it. Plus, it is quite possible to get with a girl more or less for free if you know how to carry yourself and don't look like absolute shit.
Seeing a prostitute is basically saying: I can't get laid the regular way, so I have to pay for it. At least that is what it seems like to me. Therefore, my ego would never have allowed me. Now if you are rich and a couple of hundred bucks means nothing to you, be my guest and spend as you please. But for me, it does not seem in any way worth it.
Two hundred bucks could buy me so many other awesome things. Good food, good drinks, things that will last me longer and leave me more satisfied in the long run. You could take a cute girl out some place, have great food and a great time, then go to some motel, and you'd not only have sex without someone watching the clock but you would also have a full stomach and satisfied taste buds, an intact ego and altogether end up spending less.
If I was a single man and could for whatever reason not get laid, I might spend the money some guys here spent on hookers on having a good time with friends instead. Go on a trip, see sights, go sailing, surfing, swimming, drinking, hiking. Visit resorts, travel places, cross canyons, tame wild rivers, ride a horse, whatever. Something that I could actually talk to people about without feeling a sense of shame.