Seconded. I have the feeling that feminists hate feminine women and prostitutes as much as they hate men. They are treated as they are on the wrong team because prostitutes help cut the value of p..ssy powerNorthAmericanguy wrote:JohnDoeBigBaller wrote:6. If prostitution was legal, prostitutes would have legal rights and would not longer get taken advantage of by pimps and other shady figures, including corrupt police officers. Yes, the police also contribute to the oppression of prostitutes because there are many corrupt police officers out there who blackmail and extort prostitutes for money and/or sexual favors. If prostitution was legal, all of this would end and prostitutes would finally have legal rights.
I wanted to come back to point 6 because this a topic that means a lot to me since I truly care about female sex workers. I have done my own personal research into American sex work and I was truly frightened to find out that there are hundreds (if not into the thousands) of missing/murdered female sex workers all across America. It's truly frightening, back in the old days, many women got into cars and were never seen alive again, or they were found in a landfill, found floating dead down the river, or their skeletal remains were discovered by a hiker.
Tragically, prostitutes in America are seen as less than human, and they aren't respected, so when they go missing or they're found murdered, nobody really cares other then the immediate family, if that. Say for example when Natalee Holloway went missing, her story hit major news and was featured on CNN, but when the body of a young prostitute of the same age, race, and looks of Natalee Holloway is found, nobody cares and people actually blame the prostitute for her winding up in that situation. Don't know why, but Americans just automatically equate prostitutes with disease, criminal activity, and the worse of the worse of society when in reality these women are just small business owners selling sex and companionship to feed themselves, support their children and many pay taxes just like everybody else.
Yes, sex work needs to be decriminalized because the way it is now (though it is safer now) women can't work out in the open in some type of established formal setting where people can keep track of them, and the Johns, so they hide from everybody which unfortunately makes their job extremely dangerous as it puts them in a very vulnerable position because nobody knows where they are or who they are with.
Quite simply, the underground world of American sex work is literally the playground of serial killers and sadistic predatory males who kill for sport and enjoy seeing people beg for their lives. Most American serial killers that kill women have killed women who were working as prostitutes like Gary Ridgway. It's all to easy to target sex workers to kill as no other social area in America does a woman hop into a car/truck with a man who she doesn't know, doesn't tell anyone, and submit herself fully to that strange male which is what happens during a sex act.
There are some sick individuals out here! They have found big rigs where the sleeping part of the cabin area was converted to a torture chamber, cops have pulled over vans of suspects where the owner custom fabricated the van to where that once you get inside and close the door you can't get out, and police have discovered homes where a room or basement was converted to a torture chamber.
In certain parts, it's just a known area where woman over the years have wound up missing or dead. Just sad all around. Beautiful young women who are just providing pleasure are brutally snuffed out in the prime of their lives and discarded like trash. Even the hardcore ardent feminist don't even speak up about it.
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Have you ever noticed the women speaking out the most against prostitutes are fat and ugly women? In fact almost all feminists are either fat or ugly.
"When I think about the idea of getting involved with an American woman, I don't know if I should laugh .............. or vomit!"
"Trying to meet women in America is like trying to decipher Egyptian hieroglyphics."
Feminists are also hating on pageants and feminine women
Well Retired Colonel Frank, please do teach me! Teach me how I can f**k a wet soft washcloth and actually get off on it.
so you would f**k your daughter's brains out? Any fathers here with female daughters? Have you ever had secret incest fantasies of f***ing your daughter? I think it's normal but no one talks about it. I always had fantasies about f***ing my mother and especially my hot sister. It seems there's no hotter sex than incest.
I'm going to answer this question seriously, though I don't expect anyone, including JDBB, to understand or follow my advice.
First, the man's erection comes from arousal and this should be independent of the woman's looseness and lubrication. If you are under 40 and practice sexual kung fu, getting and keeping a strong erection with minimal simulation should be easy if you are healthy. When I was in my twenties, I was still getting boners at work thinking about girls and then had to make excuses not to stand up and reveal myself, while desperately reciting multiplication tables in my head to make the boner go away. If you have trouble staying hard, you need to stop having peak orgasms and/or get your health checked.
Second, making yourself cum should be easy, regardless of how tight or loose the girl is, especially if you practice sexual kung fu. Your orgasm should be valley style, of course, in that case. A loose p***y has the advantage of making sexual kung fu easier. I just wish women in their forties were loose and wet. Instead, they tend to be fairly tight and dry, so lubrication is needed. I prefer astroglide, but the bottle leaks when traveling, and also all glycerin types lubes can cause yeast infections in some women, so now I use bodyglide, which is silicone-based.
Third, to make the woman come vaginally when she is very loose, you need to tease her with your cock. Pull out, the hold the cock against the lips and wait until you can sense she wants it, then insert partway, then immediately pull out so that she feels disappointed, then push it in all the way, etc. That is, your rhythm should be unpredictable, both the timing and depth of the strokes. This will cause her to become aroused quickly, and her arousal will make you more aroused, so you don't lose your erection. If you get too aroused, pull out until the urge to cum subsides.
Fourth, prostitutes normally deliberately try to avoid orgasms (which is why they don't get wet), since this tires them out. If you dislike faking, just tell her you don't expect her to come. I would still recommend practicing the f***ing technique in point three even with prostitutes, at least part of the time, just to keep your skills up.
Fifth, this isn't about the man's technique, but you should always advise a new woman to take up vaginal weightlifting. Most will ignore this advice, just as most men will ignore my advice about sexual kung fu. See kimanami.com for more on vaginal weightlifting. You can get the stone eggs she discusses cheap on amazon. Interesting conversation topic with a new girl. Don't criticise her current lack of muscle tone, just say you want her to develop stronger vaginal muscles so as to be able to "milk" you.
Interesting, well with the higher class prostitutes, you can request them to fake an orgasm. With the lower class ones, they barely speak any English so you can't really communicate to them.
One of my friends who is a fat, ugly, 27 year old virgin has written an article talking about his recent discision to go to Mexico and lose his virginity to a prostitute there. VERY interesting story! Here it is:
Subject: Fat, 27 year-old virgin bangs 10 beautiful women and has a threesome
I need to say that this thread (http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/ ... MA:2204367) has probably had the biggest impact on my life of any internet thread or discussion. I created a new account to discuss it without backlash. Here is my story:
When I first saw this thread a couple years ago, I was pretty shocked and disgusted. The idea of sexing prostitutes was revolting to me, mainly for these reasons:
1. I love and respect women and don’t want to take part in their harm and exploitation.
2. Child prostitution and human trafficking is the worst thing I can think of, and anything related to it is by definition evil and something I want NOTHING to do with.
3. Diseases and the idea of drinking from such a dirty well.
4. Ego (I shouldn’t have to pay a woman to f**k me!) and the fear of social stigmatization.
Now, for a little personal background, I am morbidly obese. I mean, I am fairly active and like to exercise and it’s not like I’m bedridden or have a hard time walking, but I am only 5’8’’ and over 300lbs. My obesity isn’t something I’ll get into here (except for its affect on my sex life) but suffice it to say that I do not blame anyone or anything but myself and I take full responsibility for being such a fat ass.
As a result, either from being so physically disgusting or my own lack of confidence and insecurities, I found myself a virgin at age 27. Now, I know every guy here has dozens of women just begging to f**k them, so it may not be easy to relate to how I felt. But basically I felt really shitty. Ashamed, lonely, self-loathing, worthless, frustrated, etc. I do not blame women for not wanting to f**k me, and I don’t expect anything or think that anyone “owes” me anything. But it is very demoralizing to be denied physical intimacy for so long. It’s like a part of what makes us human and validates us as a person has been completely absent from my life. However, despite all this, I still started reading this thread with the viewpoint that I would rather be a virgin than f**k hookers, for the reasons stated above.
But something funny happened. I read the points presented by Tarado Safado, and it was nothing like what I expected. He wasn’t describing the exploitation of crackwhores being beaten by their pimps and forced to sell their bodies. He was describing a mutual beneficial transaction between consenting adults. Slowly, very slowly, through reading this thread, I had a transformation of paradigm.
First, and most importantly, Tarado divorced prostitution from human trafficking. I still think that child abuse and trafficking are the very worst. But I’ve also realized that it has nothing to do with most prostitution.
Secondly, sex should not be taboo. Sex is not dirty, or shameful. The only difference between prostitution and any other exploitative industry is the element of sex and physical intimacy. Yes, women are exploited in a way- obviously, a woman who lacks money or social status is using sex to earn money. The large gap in income and quality of life is what allows Tarado to “take advantage” of the situation and achieve his goals. This is economic exploitation, which exploits the considerable income gap. However, there are so many industries that rely on exactly this same gap. One easy to understand example is your smartphone- the components of which were mined by poor people (who would undoubtedly love to be doing something else) and was assembled by poor people (who have miserable lives in factories). What’s the difference? The element of sex. If sex is not dirty, then there is no more of a moral dilemma with prostitution than there is with buying a smartphone. One could argue that both are wrong and neither one should be encouraged- this may be true, so I will take heed from such arguments when the speaker stops all exploitation themselves and stops using their smartphone and stops buying anything manufactured or produced by poor people.
Thirdly, I learned the truth about STD’s for the first time. I won’t go into details since it’s been discussed to death in this thread; let’s just say that my opinions changed. I also realized that sex with regular women was no guarantee of safety.
Very importantly, I followed the links that were posted and found myself at The Rational Male. Holy shitballs batman, what a paradigm shifter. It wasn’t about prostitution per say, but everything I had observed and experienced with regards to women started to make a lot more sense. I started to realize that there is no such thing as “not paying for it” and that all sex is transactional. I started to see the hidden costs of “normal” relationships, and looking at my friends who were “successful” with women made me realize the very high price (in money, time, and self-respect) they were paying for access to p***y. Things like gold-digging and divorce-rape (both of which are extremely common) clearly demonstrate that a woman doesn’t have to work in a Thai brothel to trade her p***y for money.
This left me with one last problem: my ego. I shouldn’t have to pay women to f**k me! This one just went away with time. At a certain point, being a guy who is so fat that no one wants to f**k him was so damaging to my self esteem that I had no ego left to bruise. I tried and tried to lose weight, and always ended up just as fat (and lonely) as ever. I was left with no self-respect to speak of. I realized that for myself, I actually do have to pay women to f**k me. I was ACTUALLY unfuckable. Coming to terms with that was painful, but it is better to see the hard truth than be comforted by the persistent lies I was telling myself (one day I will lose the weight, someone will love me for who I am, if I become funny/ smart/ kind/ thoughtful enough I can earn intimacy from a woman).
The whole process of reading this thread, reading Rollo Tomassi, and shifting of my paradigm took several years. Eventually, I found myself holding an entirely different set of beliefs regarding everything involving men and women (including prostitution). And when the last nail was driven into the coffin of my ego at 27 years of age, I finally decided that I was tired of being a virgin and that I would do something about it.
I live in SoCal, so I decided that my best bet would be to head down to Tijuana. Some research indicated that the Hong Kong strip club would be a good place to meet some lovely women and lose my virginity. I am pretty anxious by nature and averse to risk, so it sounded sketchy at first. As a sidenote- I have a good friend who I linked to this thread when I first started reading it, and eventually he agreed to be my wingman. We also got some cialis (inspired by the infamous “Review of my Liquid Cialis” thread) just in case.
Eventually, we mustered the courage and drove down to the border, parked the car in a lot, and crossed by foot into Mexico. We got into a taxi and had the driver take us straight to Hong Kong.
Hong Kong stripclub: http://www.hktijuana.com/
We checked into our room, which was a penthouse suite in the hotel that sits on top of the stripclub.
Hotel Cascadas Penthouse Suite: http://hotelcascadas.com/rooms/penthouse-suite-room-2
When I had reserved the room, I had emailed them and negotiated a discount ($300/ night for Penthouse 1). Mind you this was for Friday and Saturday, which are a little more expensive. When we checked in, they gave us a free upgrade to the Penthouse Suite 2 since they had double booked the other Penthouse. So it cost us $150 each per night and we each got our own room.
The way this place normally works is, you don’t need to be staying at the hotel. You usually go down to the stripclub (which was amazing by the way) and if a girl catches your eye, you negotiate prices with her (standard rate is $80/ 30 min, and usually only includes one nut). Then you take her upstairs, and rent a small room for the 30 min. (not sure how much this costs, I think it’s pretty cheap).
However, I didn’t want to do it this way. First of all, I was very worried that I would come quickly (which I did) and I wanted a longer session where I would get to nut twice. Secondly, I wanted to have the comfort of being in my own room. I didn’t want some guy to come knocking on the door telling me time is up, and I was hoping to shower with her first.
Anyways, we get there and it is awesome. Awesome room, very clean and comfortable. Awesome club, TONS of women. Beautiful women, especially if you like latinas with a nice ass. Right off the bat, there is a tall blonde, all natural, with big nipples dancing on the stage. My buddy and I walk around the club, and return to find that the girl is gone to some other corner. We get some drinks and start scoping out who looks hot. I want the blonde, but can’t see her. Several women approach us, and we turn them away. Eventually my buddy gets up to look for the one that had caught my eye, and he finds her and brings her over. Her English isn’t great, but I ask her for a lapdance. I think I paid $20 for two songs, and she had her top off and I was sucking on her big nipples. Song ends, but I am ready to go. I ask her for 1 hour, and she quotes me $140. I agree, and we go up to my room.
Now, I am a bit of a germ freak. I’m still worried about STD’s (but not like I used to be) but I don’t want to risk anything. I am also completely inexperienced. I never kissed any of these women on the mouth. When we get to my room, she is impressed that I have my own room and I don’t think she’d ever seen the Penthouse Suite. I ask if she wants to shower with me, and she is happy to. We shower and then she gives me a blowjob with condom on. It was my first blowjob, and it was delightful. I looked down and couldn’t believe that such an attractive woman (extremely hot body) was sucking my dick. I came in about 40 seconds. Lucky for me, I had plenty of time on the clock and lots of condoms. So I put on a new one, still rock hard, and she blew me some more, and then we f***ed. Cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, doggy, missionary. I found it to be kind of difficult, actually, because of how fat I am. A lot of positions were awkward because of my fat, but she was great about positioning herself for the best possible result. I was too much in my head, but I would stop and just be amazed that this was actually happening. We f***ed for about 40 minutes, and then she sucked me to completion. We showered and I gave her a big tip and walked her downstairs back to the club where my friend was waiting. First experience: 10/10
Over the course of the next two days, I f***ed a total of 5 women. Some of them were unenthusiastic and just trying to get me to come as fast as possible so they could get on their way. Some were great, and I enjoyed f***ing one in the shower, the bed, and the bubble bath I prepared in the hot tub. I had put some beers in the mini fridge, so we drank beers in the hot tub while I recovered my strength, and then started all over again. Sunday morning we packed our shit, took a taxi to the border, and returned to our car. I was in a twilight zone. Three days ago, I had never been naked with a woman. Now I had f***ed five women, each one hotter than I ever imagined I would be with. By some miracle of life, I had been able to watch a beautiful young woman twerking on my dick. A woman who I would have been scared to even talk to, let alone hook up with. I felt like I had discovered cheat codes for life!
After losing my virginity, I was pretty happy. I went about six months before the desire to go back down there became too strong to ignore. However, my friend had a girlfriend and would not be joining me. That means that I would need the courage to make the trip solo. Last week, that is exactly what I did. This time, I reserved a Master Suite for two nights.
Right off the bat, I found a gorgeous young woman who agreed to 1 hour for $110 (it was Monday, so prices were lower). She blew me and we went to the hot tub. After a while, we went to the bed for sex. This time around, I was MUCH more relaxed. I also lasted alot longer, and I was able to get out of my head and really enjoy the experience. She had started licking my shaft without a condom and I stopped her to put one on (I probably shouldn’t have, but I’m still scared of STD’s and I don’t want to become accustomed to no-condom blowjobs, since I already enjoy covered blowjobs just fine and most of them won’t do it without a condom). Anyways, after f***ing her she invited me to take off the condom and come all over her tits, which I happily did.
So, things had gotten off to a great start. I didn’t think things could get any better, but they did. Later that night, I took a gorgeous blonde with an amazing body (named Barbie) up to my room for an hour ($140). She took her time and gave me great head, and we sat in the hot tub drinking beers. She starts talking to me about how important it is to be positive and encouraging me not to let my weight hold me back. What is this Dr. Phil? We are so relaxed, almost the whole hour has passed. When we get to the bed, she starts massaging me. And this is a legit massage- she does my arms and legs and feet and hands. It was such a surreal experience, having this gorgeous woman naked in my bed, massaging me. We have sex, and it is the best sex I’ve ever had. I prefer just laying back and having the woman ride me, and that’s exactly what she did, in several different positions. I just propped up my head with some pillows and let her go at it. She definitely knew what she was doing, and it was a beautiful experience. By the time we shower, it has been well over two hours. And she never once mentioned the time or money. That is exactly the type of relaxed session I enjoy, so I gave her a very big tip.
The next day, I had sex with two more women. Then, late that night, I hit the club for the last time. I run into Barbie, and sit with her and a beer. She starts massaging my scalp while I rub her ass and breasts. A lot of beautiful women all around. One in particular stands out- a tall, beautiful brunette with an ass that is literally as nice as any other I’ve seen. I wave her over and get her a drink. She only slightly knows Barbie, but they get along fine, and she is very sweet. I invite her up for an hour and she agrees. I walk out of the club with my arms each wrapped around a beautiful babe, as I’m leaving a nearby table of guys give me a cheer and applause haha.
I take the girls up and have the greatest experience of my life. I cannot describe the feeling of fulfilling a fantasy with such attractive women. I am the biggest loser that I know, and yet I would not trade positions with ANY of my friends who have girlfriends. There is something about having two bombshells taking turns riding me that has permanently altered my mindset. And the ladies were super cool and friendly, just dedicated to making it a great memory for me. First threesome: 10/10
The next day I returned to the border, balls and wallet both utterly drained. That was a week ago, but I cannot for the life of me stop smiling. I have this stupid silly grin on my face. I can’t get over how blessed I am, and how happy I am to be a man alive today. It is a beautiful life.
Anyone ever tried a ladyboy? It's a very exciting experience, because it's a woman with a penis, so watching her CUM, it's like watching a cumshot along with a female orgasm face. There's really nothing hotter than that, and it's sort of the best of both worlds, if you know what I mean.
So you are bisexual?
Because a ladyboy is not "a woman with a penis", it is in fact just a confused man who took female hormones and wears make-up. It's still, at the end of the day, a man. Just a feminine one. Getting off on that, well, that's kinda gay bro. Not judging you here, but lets call a spade a spade and not get into that feminist mindset of "a tranny is a woman with a penis", because that sort of Bruce Jenner bullshit is such nonsense...
Interesting post. But sexual attraction is a very visual thing. The hormones and other treatments can in some very exceptional cases transform a biological man into the physical image of a hot woman.
Think about this:
1. Imagine a few women you know who rate exceptionally high with you on sexual draw and physical attractiveness. Then one day, you find out one or more of them was not born as a woman. You may be repulsed by that new information but before you found out, that person or persons definitely elicited sexual attraction in you, right?
2. Now imagine a woman who happens to have a very masculine build (wide shoulders, narrow hips, big arms, etc.). She's a biological woman who was born with a vagina and can bear children. Are you gonna be attracted to her even though she looks manly due to her natural vagina and child bearing ability? I think sexual attraction men feel for women is much more visual based and it's a matter of the whole form, not just one body part. Anyway, some of the best trans even do have nice looking surgically produced vaginas I believe (see Bananao's post lol).
3. Finally, imagine one more thing. Being attracted as an adult to underage girls (under 18) is considered an illness and big sin by so many. But if you see a very hot woman who looks say early 20s and you find out she's just 14-15, do you suddenly loose your natural lust cus of what she is in reality (an adolescent) or what she looks like (a hot full grown women).
Men tend to be drawn more by what their eyes see than what someone actually is. For example, there are exceptional ladyboys who look just as convincing as this women in the following prank video where she actually pretends to be a tranny lol. But she's still hot right?
Its actually the reverse. Ladyboys Want to be Women First if ever given a choice..They are born in a mans body and save 1000s of pesos/bhat to get a va*gina for a reason....They are inside FEMALE. They DO NOT THINK LIKE MEN.
Never heard about Ladyboys, wanting to increase their Penis size ever but heard, read plenty of places ladyboys wanting vagina
No ladyboys are proud of their D*ck. They take hormones to become more feminine. It cannot be just a confused man, when you have natural breasts growing...the hormone stuff comes much much later and even then, they do not want to be masculine but rather feminine...Its overwhelmingly that way all over the world...
Marcos, w/o having to get into the whole *Bruce Jenner* thing because one, I believe he's 100% pussywhipped by the Kardashians and two, that he's a weirdo, but I don't buy into the bi-thing, just because a woman is kinda strange.
In one of our gigs, Mel dressed up like Catwoman, but wore a strap-on, while doing the Jennifer Lopez look-a-like, while J Lo was giving me a blow job. Now, throughout this time, the Mrs and I were caressing each other. Does this make me *gay* due to Mel's prosthesis?
Many years ago, the Best Picture of 1999, "American Beauty", telegraphed the message of Happier Abroad to the world.
Beware of long term engagements with AWs, you may find yourself in a coffin.
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I guess it is the best experience for someone who is gay homosexual and enjoys feeling foreign penises
Most of people here on this forum are straight though
Exactly, it's all visual, for men at least. So now it's time for a pop quiz, hotshots. If you had to choose between a superhot ladyboy who looked like your favorite porn star OR an ugly fat woman, WHICH would you choose? The choice is easy in my book. Give me the superhot ladyboy.