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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby Rock » Tue May 17, 2016 5:10 am

NorthAmericanguy wrote:
Rock wrote:
2. Honestly, no, I never had, from any girl ever. I'm not into BJs. That's not my thing at all. But, the most phenomenal sexual experiences I've ever had in my life have all been with regular girls.


Rock, one thing I learned about women is that you never know who they really are. The escort I meet late at night is somebody's girlfriend during the day in another part of town, or she could be the girl you meet on a dating site who plays innocent and claims to be single.


Yes I think it's pretty easy to live a secret double life in the USA. But consider, the bf, if she has genuine feelings for him, is probably getting the best of the escort while the johns are at best getting a gfe illusion and at worst are getting very mechanical and cold performance. And bf is likely not paying hundreds of dollars per each hour of her time.

Is it true that many escorts or other p4p girls in the States won't even kiss their clients? Anyway, $200+/- for an hour of intimacy with a clock watching escort sounds like a bad deal to me, even if she does kiss.
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby drronnie » Tue May 17, 2016 5:41 am

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drronnie wrote:For me I rather have an average looking prostitute who accepts special wishes and offer the GFE but that is also getting less in Thailand since the hooker now use Facebook and Tinder to hookup with the Johns


I thought there were tons of brothels in Thailand?


The are and I have had many 8s and 9s there but I would rather have the GFE not just the 90 minutes. If you want a freelancer anything above 6 in Pattaya you have to be preselected.
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby Adama » Tue May 17, 2016 11:36 am

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Adama wrote:
The_Adventurer wrote:
Adama wrote:There are two things here. First this is an over generalization. Second this is also a massive delusion. I will attempt to show you how below:

The most honest relationships are friends with benefits, because no money is involved in paying for the action.


The only problem with this is, you've already excluded this possibility under your first statement above it. That is you've already stated that women won't have sex with men unless those men pay. How is it then possible that women will have sex without men paying?

Do you see how this is a delusion? This should bring you some cognitive dissonance. Don't you find these two mutually exclusive?



Come on Adama, you make it sound like friends with benefits is somehow a very common thing. Never mind the fact that it is a very recent phenomenon. I can count on one hand the number of people I know in a friends with benefits style relationship. In every single case, the woman was the type who wanted to be a man. She was career focused, didn't want kids, and have very little time for much else. Yet, every single guy had known in my adult life was either married or dating. You can't even compare the two.



The funny thing is, Will N Dowd seems to imply that those women you listed are the best type for relationships. What do you make of that?

Anyhow, the fact that it happens at all pretty much reduces the whole assumption that all sex with women is prostitution. It obviously is not if career women are willing to engage in FwB situations.


Look at what he's after. His only interest is in no strings attached sex . For him, that probably is the best type of relationship available. For those who might be looking for real marriage, a lot of what he has written holds a lot of weight. I've known too many guys whose woman left them because they lost their job or had some other financial mishap. It's far too easy to look at that and just say, "oh, the woman was just bad." There are always many other factors involved.

Calling it prostitution may be extreme, but you can't escape nature. A woman is going to be laid up, unable to fend for, or provide for, herself for months or years depending on how many children she's going to have. The man is supposed to pay. That's the way it should be.


I think the problem is that women are reduced to a commodity rather than accepted as persons. Women are not Ferraris to be rented and discarded. Okay if she wants to be treated that way, that's one thing. I am talking about the mindset here. It's like some men think women are useless except for sex. And that's it.

Of course that is not true. Women are far more valuable than just as sex objects. Now I am not saying that women aren't sex objects. I am not saying that women shouldnt be sex objects. I am saying they are far more than that.

And that is the beginning of the problem. If you see women as simple commodities to be purchased (I am not saying a man shouldn't purchase a woman, only that if his only use for women is purchasing them) then of course you don't see virtue within women. How can such a man see feminine virtue? His focus is only one getting some poon.

So these guys who only care about poon, who don't think women have any other virtues, are able to successfully pick women for the long term?

As far bad women, we already know who they are. They are the adulteresses, also known as sluts and whores who hop from man to man. They don't value men, and they won't lift a finger for their man. That's why it is important to find a woman who loves to please her man. If she loves to please her man, she is about satisfying her man. Those women are treasures. If you get an adulteress, of course she is going to take you to the cleaners. Because it is written that the adulteress will hunt for the precious life. Meaning whores are hopping from man to man, always looking for a better deal. Find a woman who wants to satisfy you because it makes her happy to do so. That eliminates every problem with feminism, that reduces greatly the chances of getting an adulteress.

If he just wants to bang women, he doesn't need my permission. I am just saying, these are false beliefs. Now if you want to operate under false beliefs, then that is fine. But it is a shame to use those false beliefs to justify banging lots of women. There is no philosophy behind it, except some men like to whoremonger.

Edited to add: By the way, when I was in school as an adult, I met men whose girlfriends were supporting them while they were in school. I also know a man who brags about his submissive wife, who went to prison for a year for dealing steroids (about 10 years ago now). She was the one who had to support the household and do all the work while he was in prison. When he got out of prison, she was still there.

I did meet a woman who was looking for a new man to support her after her man had been diagnosed with cervical cancer. I met her on the internet. She was complete trash. She lied about her whole life. She told me she was in college studying law, showed me only pictures of herself when she was younger and thinner which wasn't an accurate reflection of what she looked like. She also gave me the wrong address, to a vacant lot, so that she could spy on me. Her boyfriend saw my number on her phone records. He called me and explained the whole deal. Chick had not even graduated or barely graduated high school and was lazy as living hell. She had nothing which she could contribute. Neither was she willing to contribute anything. She was just a parasite. See now that is an adulteress, but you could see she was trash from a mile away. These women can't hide their trashiness. It is written all over them. Disloyalty, disrespect. It starts with the man demanding the respect that men deserve, or leaving those women behind.
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby Adama » Tue May 17, 2016 12:03 pm

Rock wrote:
NorthAmericanguy wrote:
Rock wrote:
2. Honestly, no, I never had, from any girl ever. I'm not into BJs. That's not my thing at all. But, the most phenomenal sexual experiences I've ever had in my life have all been with regular girls.


Rock, one thing I learned about women is that you never know who they really are. The escort I meet late at night is somebody's girlfriend during the day in another part of town, or she could be the girl you meet on a dating site who plays innocent and claims to be single.


Yes I think it's pretty easy to live a secret double life in the USA. But consider, the bf, if she has genuine feelings for him, is probably getting the best of the escort while the johns are at best getting a gfe illusion and at worst are getting very mechanical and cold performance. And bf is likely not paying hundreds of dollars per each hour of her time.

Is it true that many escorts or other p4p girls in the States won't even kiss their clients? Anyway, $200+/- for an hour of intimacy with a clock watching escort sounds like a bad deal to me, even if she does kiss.


It's just an excuse to monger. If they want to monger then that is one thing, but they use these delusions to justify mongering, rather than just admitting to themselves that they are sex addicts.

There is no way a man paying $200 is getting the best of a woman. These guys have forgotten one major rule about women, and that is they don't respect men who don't have other women who want them. The moment that money becomes the means by which the man gets the woman, the woman automatically has ZERO respect for him. Women want the man that other women want. So why would an escort give her all out effort for some guy who thinks she's more valuable than him? You can't purchase love. What they want is to purchase a performance. That is acting. That is not love. It is fake.

These men really believe that women's time is valuable. I for one think that the average woman ought to be paying men for their time, because it is men who are the prize. It is only that men don't get together to enforce the Patriarchy cartel the same way that some men believe women enforce the poon cartel.

And guess what? These men really think these women are independent. Nope. Probably most of those sex workers have boyfriends. They are really working for their boyfriends. Just like the cuckold husband who gives money to his wife who spends it on the pool boy. Likewise these men who visit prostitutes ultimately have their money ending up in the hands of other men; the boyfriends of the prostitutes in many cases. I am not saying these men pimp out their girlfriends. Only that while these men are paying for their services, the boyfriends get the services for free and benefit from the labor of another man.

Meanwhile these guys are complaining about divorce when they are forking over thousands of dollars a year. Women who are wives can earn money and contribute to a household. They can pay for themselves. Heck in essence a wife is paying for a relationship with her husband in more than one way. They never stop to think about that.
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby The_Adventurer » Tue May 17, 2016 3:06 pm

Adama wrote:So these guys who only care about poon, who don't think women have any other virtues, are able to successfully pick women for the long term?


Those are the guys who should be using prostitutes.

Adama wrote:Chick had not even graduated or barely graduated high school and was lazy as living hell. She had nothing which she could contribute.


Those are the girls most haters on the net are choosing, then they sit around and complain.

In my little village, there are many small stores where the husband and wife sit in there together, and the kids, when not in school, are running around in there, or helping out if older. Everyone contributes and they seem happy.

One of the best relationships I know is an old animator who did a lot of work seen in Sesame Street over decades. He does the animation and his wife does colors and backgrounds.

Not saying this is the only road to success, but it seems better, at least, than those who go in thinking "hot" this and "hot" that, and 8s and 10s and what not.
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby JohnDoeBigBaller » Tue May 17, 2016 6:09 pm

Adama wrote:
Will N. Dowd wrote:A lot of your so called "normal women" are prostitutes. They may not stand on a street corner selling themselves, but unless you keep paying their bills, and buying them presents, they will withhold sex from guys. So they give you sex if you pay for all their nonsense, and submit to their demands, and are attentive to all their needs. As soon as you stop paying the bills, they usually stop the sex, even though they were paying them themselves before hand. So you pay them for sex, indirectly, compared to directly, but you are still paying for the same thing. Not all, but most women are like this, and of course most will deny it all. Try telling them they will get no more gifts or support from you and see how they react then. The most honest relationships are friends with benefits, because no money is involved in paying for the action. If their is money involved and one person is paying more or most of it to keep the other person sleeping with them, it's prostitution, but is called a relationship or marriage. So yes, prostitution is legal in the US, it's just called dating and marriage. Think about it, selling is legal, and sex is legal, but strangely selling sex directly is illegal, so it's done indirectly, and called dating and marriage.

If street hookers are black, and no commitment friends with benefits, with no romance, support or money exchange of any kind are white, then dating, marriage and relationships are the grey area. Marriages and Relationships where everything shared is split exactly 50/50 and each person pays for all their own other stuff may be white too, but these are extremely rare. Men want as much sex as possible for as little money as possible, while women want as much money as possible, for as little sex as possible. Sex is the world's greatest loss leader.


There are two things here. First this is an over generalization. Second this is also a massive delusion. I will attempt to show you how below:

unless you keep paying their bills, and buying them presents, they will withhold sex from guys. So they give you sex if you pay for all their nonsense, and submit to their demands, and are attentive to all their needs. As soon as you stop paying the bills, they usually stop the sex,


To me this says that men must pay for women or those women will withhold sex or leave. Is this the proper interpretation?

Then you immediately write:

The most honest relationships are friends with benefits, because no money is involved in paying for the action.


The only problem with this is, you've already excluded this possibility under your first statement above it. That is you've already stated that women won't have sex with men unless those men pay. How is it then possible that women will have sex without men paying?

Do you see how this is a delusion? This should bring you some cognitive dissonance. Don't you find these two mutually exclusive?

The thing is, most women may be like this. Or it could just be the ones that you're meeting and focusing on. For example, if you go to clubs all the time, why would you be surprised that the women have high mileage? If you go to France, would you expect there to be many Francophones? Why then do we confuse good girls with bad girls? There are good girls and then there are bad girls. The hint is that bad girls act like bad girls. So when you meet a woman who has been trying to use you for money, you know that she is a bad girl. Does that mean that all women are that way? No.



There's no such thing as "friends wih benefits". Yes, some women will have casual hook up sex, but it will ALWAYS turn into a situation where the woman starts feeling jealous, posessive, and wants an exclusive relationship with the man. The woman will end up developing feelings. So the whole friends with benefits thing doesn't work in reality.

The way to get around this is to constantly find NEW women, that way when your older friends with benefits starts getting too clingy or attached, you can dump her and move on to the next women.

THIS is why I stopped even bothering with casual hookups (friends with benefits) type of situations, because I don't want the emotional attachment that the woman ALWAYS develops. And the more aloof and detached you are from her, the MORE she will want you. So it becomes a vicious circle that ends with the woman stalking you, becoming obsessed with you, calling you 50 times a day, etc. Do you really want to deal with that just for a little bit of sex?

Nope, paying money and f***ing a prostitute is a FAR BETTER OPTION!!! After all, you pay the prostitute to LEAVE. With normal women, they don't leave and they start becoming super clingy towards you.
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby JohnDoeBigBaller » Tue May 17, 2016 6:27 pm

Adama wrote:
Rock wrote:
NorthAmericanguy wrote:
Rock wrote:
2. Honestly, no, I never had, from any girl ever. I'm not into BJs. That's not my thing at all. But, the most phenomenal sexual experiences I've ever had in my life have all been with regular girls.


Rock, one thing I learned about women is that you never know who they really are. The escort I meet late at night is somebody's girlfriend during the day in another part of town, or she could be the girl you meet on a dating site who plays innocent and claims to be single.


Yes I think it's pretty easy to live a secret double life in the USA. But consider, the bf, if she has genuine feelings for him, is probably getting the best of the escort while the johns are at best getting a gfe illusion and at worst are getting very mechanical and cold performance. And bf is likely not paying hundreds of dollars per each hour of her time.

Is it true that many escorts or other p4p girls in the States won't even kiss their clients? Anyway, $200+/- for an hour of intimacy with a clock watching escort sounds like a bad deal to me, even if she does kiss.


It's just an excuse to monger. If they want to monger then that is one thing, but they use these delusions to justify mongering, rather than just admitting to themselves that they are sex addicts.

There is no way a man paying $200 is getting the best of a woman. These guys have forgotten one major rule about women, and that is they don't respect men who don't have other women who want them. The moment that money becomes the means by which the man gets the woman, the woman automatically has ZERO respect for him. Women want the man that other women want. So why would an escort give her all out effort for some guy who thinks she's more valuable than him? You can't purchase love. What they want is to purchase a performance. That is acting. That is not love. It is fake.

These men really believe that women's time is valuable. I for one think that the average woman ought to be paying men for their time, because it is men who are the prize. It is only that men don't get together to enforce the Patriarchy cartel the same way that some men believe women enforce the poon cartel.

And guess what? These men really think these women are independent. Nope. Probably most of those sex workers have boyfriends. They are really working for their boyfriends. Just like the cuckold husband who gives money to his wife who spends it on the pool boy. Likewise these men who visit prostitutes ultimately have their money ending up in the hands of other men; the boyfriends of the prostitutes in many cases. I am not saying these men pimp out their girlfriends. Only that while these men are paying for their services, the boyfriends get the services for free and benefit from the labor of another man.

Meanwhile these guys are complaining about divorce when they are forking over thousands of dollars a year. Women who are wives can earn money and contribute to a household. They can pay for themselves. Heck in essence a wife is paying for a relationship with her husband in more than one way. They never stop to think about that.


We are all sex addicts, bro. Just as we are all food addicts, oxygen addicts, water addicts, sleep addicts, etc. Sex is a NECESSITY of the body, just the same as food, water, oxygen, sleep, etc, so unless you are planning on becoming some kind of celibate monk and giving up all sexual activity, you also are a sex addict.

On a different note, I think all drugs should be legal too. For example, opium used to be legal and to be honest it's actually far safer and less harmful than alcohol or tobacco or many other modern drugs that are legal.

I think drugs, sex, prostitution, gambling, everything should be legal and people should have the right to do it whenever and wherever they please.

Imagine what an awesome world that would be. Go smoke your opium pipe, then go to a casino and play some games, then go and choose a super hot prostitute and then bang her. That is what a world of FREEDOM would look like. Unfortunately we have too many moralfags, feminists, religious nutjobs, conservatives, liberals, who are all basically CONTROL FREAKS and want to keep others from enjoying a life of freedom.
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby E Irizarry R&B Singer » Tue May 17, 2016 6:49 pm

@johndoebigballer,
What's so blasphemous is that Will N. Dowd and I post about our sexual sojourns
With pros and we get shot down for it.

I slept with hundreds of pros and hundreds of non.pros and I get disrespected
For sleeping with 2s up to 7s both pros and non pros.
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby Ghost » Tue May 17, 2016 7:00 pm

The sex addict argument is bunk. Sex is a basic need. Saying men are sex addicts is like saying they can be food or oxygen addicts. Sex is part of the base of the pyramid on Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.

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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby E Irizarry R&B Singer » Tue May 17, 2016 7:01 pm

@johndoebigballer,

Yes there IS such things as friends with benefits. In Colombia, I have two of them. In Ecuador, I have one of them.
In Brasil, I have four of them. Chile...maybe one. Paraguay, two.
....meaning that anytime I notify them that I'm in town, they don't drop everything, but they plan to spend time with me
Within an 48 hour period.
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby JohnDoeBigBaller » Tue May 17, 2016 8:02 pm

E Irizarry R&B Singer wrote:@johndoebigballer,
What's so blasphemous is that Will N. Dowd and I post about our sexual sojourns
With pros and we get shot down for it.

I slept with hundreds of pros and hundreds of non.pros and I get disrespected
For sleeping with 2s up to 7s both pros and non pros.


they're just envious that you have the balls to live the life you WANT to live.

they are jealous of you. they also WANT to f**k tons of hot women but their stupid EGOs is preventing them from doing so.
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby JohnDoeBigBaller » Tue May 17, 2016 8:03 pm

E Irizarry R&B Singer wrote:@johndoebigballer,

Yes there IS such things as friends with benefits. In Colombia, I have two of them. In Ecuador, I have one of them.
In Brasil, I have four of them. Chile...maybe one. Paraguay, two.
....meaning that anytime I notify them that I'm in town, they don't drop everything, but they plan to spend time with me
Within an 48 hour period.


Interesting. Do they ever develop emotional attachment and get clingy and start wanting an exclusive monogamous relationship with you?
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby Adama » Tue May 17, 2016 8:12 pm

Oh look at the whoremongers of Asia come out of the woodwork to say that sex addiction is a fallacy. haha hohohoho
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby Adama » Tue May 17, 2016 8:12 pm

JohnDoeBigBaller wrote:There's no such thing as "friends wih benefits". Yes, some women will have casual hook up sex, but it will ALWAYS turn into a situation where the woman starts feeling jealous, posessive, and wants an exclusive relationship with the man. The woman will end up developing feelings. So the whole friends with benefits thing doesn't work in reality.

The way to get around this is to constantly find NEW women, that way when your older friends with benefits starts getting too clingy or attached, you can dump her and move on to the next women.

THIS is why I stopped even bothering with casual hookups (friends with benefits) type of situations, because I don't want the emotional attachment that the woman ALWAYS develops. And the more aloof and detached you are from her, the MORE she will want you. So it becomes a vicious circle that ends with the woman stalking you, becoming obsessed with you, calling you 50 times a day, etc. Do you really want to deal with that just for a little bit of sex?

Nope, paying money and f***ing a prostitute is a FAR BETTER OPTION!!! After all, you pay the prostitute to LEAVE. With normal women, they don't leave and they start becoming super clingy towards you.


I don't disagree with what you say. It is just that, like I said, people value others differently.


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Those are the girls most haters on the net are choosing, then they sit around and complain.

In my little village, there are many small stores where the husband and wife sit in there together, and the kids, when not in school, are running around in there, or helping out if older. Everyone contributes and they seem happy.

One of the best relationships I know is an old animator who did a lot of work seen in Sesame Street over decades. He does the animation and his wife does colors and backgrounds.

Not saying this is the only road to success, but it seems better, at least, than those who go in thinking "hot" this and "hot" that, and 8s and 10s and what not.

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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby JohnDoeBigBaller » Tue May 17, 2016 8:52 pm

Adama wrote:
JohnDoeBigBaller wrote:There's no such thing as "friends wih benefits". Yes, some women will have casual hook up sex, but it will ALWAYS turn into a situation where the woman starts feeling jealous, posessive, and wants an exclusive relationship with the man. The woman will end up developing feelings. So the whole friends with benefits thing doesn't work in reality.

The way to get around this is to constantly find NEW women, that way when your older friends with benefits starts getting too clingy or attached, you can dump her and move on to the next women.

THIS is why I stopped even bothering with casual hookups (friends with benefits) type of situations, because I don't want the emotional attachment that the woman ALWAYS develops. And the more aloof and detached you are from her, the MORE she will want you. So it becomes a vicious circle that ends with the woman stalking you, becoming obsessed with you, calling you 50 times a day, etc. Do you really want to deal with that just for a little bit of sex?

Nope, paying money and f***ing a prostitute is a FAR BETTER OPTION!!! After all, you pay the prostitute to LEAVE. With normal women, they don't leave and they start becoming super clingy towards you.


I don't disagree with what you say. It is just that, like I said, people value others differently.


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Those are the girls most haters on the net are choosing, then they sit around and complain.

In my little village, there are many small stores where the husband and wife sit in there together, and the kids, when not in school, are running around in there, or helping out if older. Everyone contributes and they seem happy.

One of the best relationships I know is an old animator who did a lot of work seen in Sesame Street over decades. He does the animation and his wife does colors and backgrounds.

Not saying this is the only road to success, but it seems better, at least, than those who go in thinking "hot" this and "hot" that, and 8s and 10s and what not.

Exactly.


You guys are free to believe whatever you want to believe or follow whatever concept of morality you want to follow but you do NOT have the right to enforce your own morality onto others and thus limit other people's freedoms.

This is the problem, we have a bunch of sexually repressed morons like feminists and religious conservatives who hate sex and can't stand to see others enjoying sex so they want to ban it and silence it at all costs. It's like "I have lost at the game so I am going to destroy the game and make sure no one else can ever win". It boils down to envy pure and simple.
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