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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby Adama » Tue May 17, 2016 8:56 pm

JohnDoeBigBaller wrote:
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JohnDoeBigBaller wrote:There's no such thing as "friends wih benefits". Yes, some women will have casual hook up sex, but it will ALWAYS turn into a situation where the woman starts feeling jealous, posessive, and wants an exclusive relationship with the man. The woman will end up developing feelings. So the whole friends with benefits thing doesn't work in reality.

The way to get around this is to constantly find NEW women, that way when your older friends with benefits starts getting too clingy or attached, you can dump her and move on to the next women.

THIS is why I stopped even bothering with casual hookups (friends with benefits) type of situations, because I don't want the emotional attachment that the woman ALWAYS develops. And the more aloof and detached you are from her, the MORE she will want you. So it becomes a vicious circle that ends with the woman stalking you, becoming obsessed with you, calling you 50 times a day, etc. Do you really want to deal with that just for a little bit of sex?

Nope, paying money and f***ing a prostitute is a FAR BETTER OPTION!!! After all, you pay the prostitute to LEAVE. With normal women, they don't leave and they start becoming super clingy towards you.


I don't disagree with what you say. It is just that, like I said, people value others differently.


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Those are the girls most haters on the net are choosing, then they sit around and complain.

In my little village, there are many small stores where the husband and wife sit in there together, and the kids, when not in school, are running around in there, or helping out if older. Everyone contributes and they seem happy.

One of the best relationships I know is an old animator who did a lot of work seen in Sesame Street over decades. He does the animation and his wife does colors and backgrounds.

Not saying this is the only road to success, but it seems better, at least, than those who go in thinking "hot" this and "hot" that, and 8s and 10s and what not.

Exactly.


You guys are free to believe whatever you want to believe or follow whatever concept of morality you want to follow but you do NOT have the right to enforce your own morality onto others and thus limit other people's freedoms.

This is the problem, we have a bunch of sexually repressed morons like feminists and religious conservatives who hate sex and can't stand to see others enjoying sex so they want to ban it and silence it at all costs. It's like "I have lost at the game so I am going to destroy the game and make sure no one else can ever win". It boils down to envy pure and simple.


I don't want to force my morality on you. I've been saying that, BigJoe. You can do what you want.
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby E Irizarry R&B Singer » Tue May 17, 2016 9:05 pm

JohnDoeBigBaller wrote:
E Irizarry R&B Singer wrote:@johndoebigballer,
What's so blasphemous is that Will N. Dowd and I post about our sexual sojourns
With pros and we get shot down for it.

I slept with hundreds of pros and hundreds of non.pros and I get disrespected
For sleeping with 2s up to 7s both pros and non pros.


they're just envious that you have the balls to live the life you WANT to live.

they are jealous of you. they also WANT to f**k tons of hot women but their stupid EGOs is preventing them from doing so.

Lotto!!!! #thumbsup
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby E Irizarry R&B Singer » Tue May 17, 2016 9:11 pm

JohnDoeBigBaller wrote:
E Irizarry R&B Singer wrote:@johndoebigballer,

Yes there IS such things as friends with benefits. In Colombia, I have two of them. In Ecuador, I have one of them.
In Brasil, I have four of them. Chile...maybe one. Paraguay, two.
....meaning that anytime I notify them that I'm in town, they don't drop everything, but they plan to spend time with me
Within an 48 hour period.


Interesting. Do they ever develop emotional attachment and get clingy and start wanting an exclusive monogamous relationship with you?

Nope. They love to f.uck me NSA. South America understands the patriarchal sexual satiation dynamic. Puritanical STD-ridden North America can learn from the real Latin America.
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby E Irizarry R&B Singer » Tue May 17, 2016 9:20 pm

JohnDoeBigBaller wrote:
Adama wrote:
Rock wrote:
NorthAmericanguy wrote:
Rock wrote:
2. Honestly, no, I never had, from any girl ever. I'm not into BJs. That's not my thing at all. But, the most phenomenal sexual experiences I've ever had in my life have all been with regular girls.


Rock, one thing I learned about women is that you never know who they really are. The escort I meet late at night is somebody's girlfriend during the day in another part of town, or she could be the girl you meet on a dating site who plays innocent and claims to be single.


Yes I think it's pretty easy to live a secret double life in the USA. But consider, the bf, if she has genuine feelings for him, is probably getting the best of the escort while the johns are at best getting a gfe illusion and at worst are getting very mechanical and cold performance. And bf is likely not paying hundreds of dollars per each hour of her time.

Is it true that many escorts or other p4p girls in the States won't even kiss their clients? Anyway, $200+/- for an hour of intimacy with a clock watching escort sounds like a bad deal to me, even if she does kiss.


It's just an excuse to monger. If they want to monger then that is one thing, but they use these delusions to justify mongering, rather than just admitting to themselves that they are sex addicts.

There is no way a man paying $200 is getting the best of a woman. These guys have forgotten one major rule about women, and that is they don't respect men who don't have other women who want them. The moment that money becomes the means by which the man gets the woman, the woman automatically has ZERO respect for him. Women want the man that other women want. So why would an escort give her all out effort for some guy who thinks she's more valuable than him? You can't purchase love. What they want is to purchase a performance. That is acting. That is not love. It is fake.

These men really believe that women's time is valuable. I for one think that the average woman ought to be paying men for their time, because it is men who are the prize. It is only that men don't get together to enforce the Patriarchy cartel the same way that some men believe women enforce the poon cartel.

And guess what? These men really think these women are independent. Nope. Probably most of those sex workers have boyfriends. They are really working for their boyfriends. Just like the cuckold husband who gives money to his wife who spends it on the pool boy. Likewise these men who visit prostitutes ultimately have their money ending up in the hands of other men; the boyfriends of the prostitutes in many cases. I am not saying these men pimp out their girlfriends. Only that while these men are paying for their services, the boyfriends get the services for free and benefit from the labor of another man.

Meanwhile these guys are complaining about divorce when they are forking over thousands of dollars a year. Women who are wives can earn money and contribute to a household. They can pay for themselves. Heck in essence a wife is paying for a relationship with her husband in more than one way. They never stop to think about that.


We are all sex addicts, bro. Just as we are all food addicts, oxygen addicts, water addicts, sleep addicts, etc. Sex is a NECESSITY of the body, just the same as food, water, oxygen, sleep, etc, so unless you are planning on becoming some kind of celibate monk and giving up all sexual activity, you also are a sex addict.

On a different note, I think all drugs should be legal too. For example, opium used to be legal and to be honest it's actually far safer and less harmful than alcohol or tobacco or many other modern drugs that are legal.

I think drugs, sex, prostitution, gambling, everything should be legal and people should have the right to do it whenever and wherever they please.

Imagine what an awesome world that would be. Go smoke your opium pipe, then go to a casino and play some games, then go and choose a super hot prostitute and then bang her. That is what a world of FREEDOM would look like. Unfortunately we have too many moralfags, feminists, religious nutjobs, conservatives, liberals, who are all basically CONTROL FREAKS and want to keep others from enjoying a life of freedom.

Beers on me if you are ever in the Chicagoland area. A true libertarian post, bud. Spot on!
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby JohnDoeBigBaller » Tue May 17, 2016 11:15 pm

E Irizarry R&B Singer wrote:
JohnDoeBigBaller wrote:
E Irizarry R&B Singer wrote:@johndoebigballer,

Yes there IS such things as friends with benefits. In Colombia, I have two of them. In Ecuador, I have one of them.
In Brasil, I have four of them. Chile...maybe one. Paraguay, two.
....meaning that anytime I notify them that I'm in town, they don't drop everything, but they plan to spend time with me
Within an 48 hour period.


Interesting. Do they ever develop emotional attachment and get clingy and start wanting an exclusive monogamous relationship with you?

Nope. They love to f.uck me NSA. South America understands the patriarchal sexual satiation dynamic. Puritanical STD-ridden North America can learn from the real Latin America.


I'm just pretty shocked, so you mean you've actually found women who are cool with ONLY f***ing and not having any kind of emotional attachment?

I've yet to find such women because it almost always turns into a situation where she becomes very clingy towards me. Then again, I am living in an Asian country where the women never really learned how to be independent from men, so perhaps that's why. Not that that's a bad thing, either. But it's very hard to get casual hook up sex in traditional conservative countries.
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby The_Adventurer » Wed May 18, 2016 1:29 am

JohnDoeBigBaller wrote:Imagine what an awesome world that would be. Go smoke your opium pipe, then go to a casino and play some games, then go and choose a super hot prostitute and then bang her. That is what a world of FREEDOM would look like. Unfortunately we have too many moralfags, feminists, religious nutjobs, conservatives, liberals, who are all basically CONTROL FREAKS and want to keep others from enjoying a life of freedom.


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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby E Irizarry R&B Singer » Wed May 18, 2016 3:02 am

JohnDoeBigBaller wrote:
E Irizarry R&B Singer wrote:
JohnDoeBigBaller wrote:
E Irizarry R&B Singer wrote:@johndoebigballer,

Yes there IS such things as friends with benefits. In Colombia, I have two of them. In Ecuador, I have one of them.
In Brasil, I have four of them. Chile...maybe one. Paraguay, two.
....meaning that anytime I notify them that I'm in town, they don't drop everything, but they plan to spend time with me
Within an 48 hour period.


Interesting. Do they ever develop emotional attachment and get clingy and start wanting an exclusive monogamous relationship with you?

Nope. They love to f.uck me NSA. South America understands the patriarchal sexual satiation dynamic. Puritanical STD-ridden North America can learn from the real Latin America.


I'm just pretty shocked, so you mean you've actually found women who are cool with ONLY f***ing and not having any kind of emotional attachment?

I've yet to find such women because it almost always turns into a situation where she becomes very clingy towards me. Then again, I am living in an Asian country where the women never really learned how to be independent from men, so perhaps that's why. Not that that's a bad thing, either. But it's very hard to get casual hook up sex in traditional conservative countries.

Hard to believe yet so true. Then again, you're a White guy in Asia so they are more clingy. Only in Brazil have a couple of them become more clingy. I'm not White by the way.
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby NorthAmericanguy » Wed May 18, 2016 3:59 am

Rock wrote:
NorthAmericanguy wrote:
Rock wrote:
2. Honestly, no, I never had, from any girl ever. I'm not into BJs. That's not my thing at all. But, the most phenomenal sexual experiences I've ever had in my life have all been with regular girls.


Rock, one thing I learned about women is that you never know who they really are. The escort I meet late at night is somebody's girlfriend during the day in another part of town, or she could be the girl you meet on a dating site who plays innocent and claims to be single.


Yes I think it's pretty easy to live a secret double life in the USA. But consider, the bf, if she has genuine feelings for him, is probably getting the best of the escort while the johns are at best getting a gfe illusion and at worst are getting very mechanical and cold performance. And bf is likely not paying hundreds of dollars per each hour of her time.

Is it true that many escorts or other p4p girls in the States won't even kiss their clients? Anyway, $200+/- for an hour of intimacy with a clock watching escort sounds like a bad deal to me, even if she does kiss.



1. Yes, a boyfriend can get a better cost per lay ratio, but it doesn't last indefinitely because the woman will eventually push towards something more serious such as moving in together, marriage, or she will push to have children. I have seen all these scenarios play out with my old male friends. No young woman just stays happy with being a girlfriend indefinitely because they know they're on the losing end of the deal.

2. It depends on the girl if they kiss or not. Some girls do, many don't. Kissing in general though is really not part of the relm of sex work because it's too intimate and is reserved for your private life outside of sex work.

3. Guys have misconceptions about American sex workers. Nobody watches the clock, but if you're worried about that, just book a longer session which can range from 2-3 hours all the way to overnights.

As far as cold mechanical performance, that hasn't been my experience. However, males need to understand that sex work isn't about connecting intimately with another person, the providers are there to get you off and extingush your lustfull desires. If you're looking for something more intimate then you need seek out a girlfriend. I have spoken to a few escorts who told me customers try and make them their girlfriend bit that isn't what they are there for. They just want you to use them to get off, then go.
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby Ghost » Wed May 18, 2016 4:20 am

JohnDoeBigBaller wrote:I'm just pretty shocked, so you mean you've actually found women who are cool with ONLY f***ing and not having any kind of emotional attachment?


Don't doubt him, he has superpowers and a magic penis. Only white peons such as ourselves have to deal with those pesky, clingy women.

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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby droid » Wed May 18, 2016 5:13 am

JohnDoeBigBaller wrote:I'm just pretty shocked, so you mean you've actually found women who are cool with ONLY f***ing and not having any kind of emotional attachment?
I've yet to find such women because it almost always turns into a situation where she becomes very clingy towards me. Then again, I am living in an Asian country where the women never really learned how to be independent from men, so perhaps that's why. Not that that's a bad thing, either. But it's very hard to get casual hook up sex in traditional conservative countries.


^^ THIS THIS
Spot on man, these girls will say "i love you" on the second date, it's unbelievable.

Personally, i've found this kind of draining since honestly i came to "have fun", but dating multiple girls has been freaking guilt-ridden and one feels like going against personal principles. These girls have big hearts, and even though they're horny and might even say they're ok with "dating", it's not true, they will get attached soon (and you will as well).
They will also lose interest eventually if they see you are not serious enough; I personally just can't get myself to lie and tell them very loving words, so it shows.

Even the "sexy" girls you might judge as "sluts" from their looks, seem to be with formal boyfriends for the most part (i haven't dated those types though).
Also, note that a portion of vietnamese dudes play the field, according to what i've been told and asked. Some girls say "vn boy always more gf", but it just doesn't feel right doing it here.

I really have a hard time believing those stories about no-strings three-girl-a-day fuck-a-thons in the phillipines, I feel like calling BS on that. But maybe the place is really exceptional in this region. I might check it out and see if that's a better fit for me.


@Ghost:
You're right, western jackasses shouldn't attempt to come here to monger and ruthlessly break girls' hearts. I will probably stop meeting new girls and reconsider the plans.
You should really try it here in vietnam man. Give it a shot, no scammers, the girls will cook and take care of you, even treat you and spend some of their money on you, it's crazy. You can find a decent wife in no time here, that is if one is really ready to make serious proposals.
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby Adama » Wed May 18, 2016 11:50 am

droid wrote:
JohnDoeBigBaller wrote:I'm just pretty shocked, so you mean you've actually found women who are cool with ONLY f***ing and not having any kind of emotional attachment?
I've yet to find such women because it almost always turns into a situation where she becomes very clingy towards me. Then again, I am living in an Asian country where the women never really learned how to be independent from men, so perhaps that's why. Not that that's a bad thing, either. But it's very hard to get casual hook up sex in traditional conservative countries.


^^ THIS THIS
Spot on man, these girls will say "i love you" on the second date, it's unbelievable.

Personally, i've found this kind of draining since honestly i came to "have fun", but dating multiple girls has been freaking guilt-ridden and one feels like going against personal principles. These girls have big hearts, and even though they're horny and might even say they're ok with "dating", it's not true, they will get attached soon (and you will as well).
They will also lose interest eventually if they see you are not serious enough; I personally just can't get myself to lie and tell them very loving words, so it shows.

Even the "sexy" girls you might judge as "sluts" from their looks, seem to be with formal boyfriends for the most part (i haven't dated those types though).
Also, note that a portion of vietnamese dudes play the field, according to what i've been told and asked. Some girls say "vn boy always more gf", but it just doesn't feel right doing it here.

I really have a hard time believing those stories about no-strings three-girl-a-day fuck-a-thons in the phillipines, I feel like calling BS on that. But maybe the place is really exceptional in this region. I might check it out and see if that's a better fit for me.


@Ghost:
You're right, western jackasses shouldn't attempt to come here to monger and ruthlessly break girls' hearts. I will probably stop meeting new girls and reconsider the plans.
You should really try it here in vietnam man. Give it a shot, no scammers, the girls will cook and take care of you, even treat you and spend some of their money on you, it's crazy. You can find a decent wife in no time here, that is if one is really ready to make serious proposals.


How many women have you had so far?
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby droid » Wed May 18, 2016 4:00 pm

Adama wrote:How many women have you had so far?


First I must say I'm not trying to pass as a big shot here in any way, I'm just a regular dude trying to get what i can.

I've dated 6 girls, had long make out and fondling sessions with 4 of them in "mini-relationships" and have had sex several times with two of them.
I've lost other 3 girls for sheer lack of time, as the real-life logistics have been the real impediment.
These girls have been in the "6"-"8" range, but young, 18-22 which was my main goal.

Total chatting prospects including those is like 15 but most flakes, shy, a language barrier, or they expect you to be more serious, but like i said i'm not going to lie and promise love, marriage etc.

Two of the ones i lost were actually solid "9"s but they got tired of waiting, unfortunately.
I made one big mistake in that when i went to America in October-november, i stopped communication so as to not keep promising an uncertain arrival. but they took this really badly.

So far happy but kind of worn out. Like I said, not the ridiculous easy f-ck-a-thons others report in some places, but life just feel normal, the way it should be in the dating respect. Practical physical and emotional concerns have actually been the problem. I subestimated that.

I think I will post some pictures when i make my report. Maybe I would just probably send those pics to stable or grounded posters like marcos or ghost. I don't want to expose the girls or myself in the open forum.
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby JohnDoeBigBaller » Wed May 18, 2016 5:14 pm

NorthAmericanguy wrote:
Rock wrote:
NorthAmericanguy wrote:
Rock wrote:
2. Honestly, no, I never had, from any girl ever. I'm not into BJs. That's not my thing at all. But, the most phenomenal sexual experiences I've ever had in my life have all been with regular girls.


Rock, one thing I learned about women is that you never know who they really are. The escort I meet late at night is somebody's girlfriend during the day in another part of town, or she could be the girl you meet on a dating site who plays innocent and claims to be single.


Yes I think it's pretty easy to live a secret double life in the USA. But consider, the bf, if she has genuine feelings for him, is probably getting the best of the escort while the johns are at best getting a gfe illusion and at worst are getting very mechanical and cold performance. And bf is likely not paying hundreds of dollars per each hour of her time.

Is it true that many escorts or other p4p girls in the States won't even kiss their clients? Anyway, $200+/- for an hour of intimacy with a clock watching escort sounds like a bad deal to me, even if she does kiss.



1. Yes, a boyfriend can get a better cost per lay ratio, but it doesn't last indefinitely because the woman will eventually push towards something more serious such as moving in together, marriage, or she will push to have children. I have seen all these scenarios play out with my old male friends. No young woman just stays happy with being a girlfriend indefinitely because they know they're on the losing end of the deal.

2. It depends on the girl if they kiss or not. Some girls do, many don't. Kissing in general though is really not part of the relm of sex work because it's too intimate and is reserved for your private life outside of sex work.

3. Guys have misconceptions about American sex workers. Nobody watches the clock, but if you're worried about that, just book a longer session which can range from 2-3 hours all the way to overnights.

As far as cold mechanical performance, that hasn't been my experience. However, males need to understand that sex work isn't about connecting intimately with another person, the providers are there to get you off and extingush your lustfull desires. If you're looking for something more intimate then you need seek out a girlfriend. I have spoken to a few escorts who told me customers try and make them their girlfriend bit that isn't what they are there for. They just want you to use them to get off, then go.


Point 1 is spot on. No woman will be satisfied just being a f**k buddy forever. They will always push towards committment because that is a woman's inherent nature- to parasite off of men's resources.

That's why the modern hook up culture is so rough on women. Men can now get sex easy and without any committment, so it is causing many women to have a mental meltdown. But f**k them, I could care less if they have a psychological breakdown, most women are scum and deserve it.
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby JohnDoeBigBaller » Wed May 18, 2016 5:28 pm

droid wrote:
JohnDoeBigBaller wrote:I'm just pretty shocked, so you mean you've actually found women who are cool with ONLY f***ing and not having any kind of emotional attachment?
I've yet to find such women because it almost always turns into a situation where she becomes very clingy towards me. Then again, I am living in an Asian country where the women never really learned how to be independent from men, so perhaps that's why. Not that that's a bad thing, either. But it's very hard to get casual hook up sex in traditional conservative countries.


^^ THIS THIS
Spot on man, these girls will say "i love you" on the second date, it's unbelievable.

Personally, i've found this kind of draining since honestly i came to "have fun", but dating multiple girls has been freaking guilt-ridden and one feels like going against personal principles. These girls have big hearts, and even though they're horny and might even say they're ok with "dating", it's not true, they will get attached soon (and you will as well).
They will also lose interest eventually if they see you are not serious enough; I personally just can't get myself to lie and tell them very loving words, so it shows.

Even the "sexy" girls you might judge as "sluts" from their looks, seem to be with formal boyfriends for the most part (i haven't dated those types though).
Also, note that a portion of vietnamese dudes play the field, according to what i've been told and asked. Some girls say "vn boy always more gf", but it just doesn't feel right doing it here.

I really have a hard time believing those stories about no-strings three-girl-a-day fuck-a-thons in the phillipines, I feel like calling BS on that. But maybe the place is really exceptional in this region. I might check it out and see if that's a better fit for me.


@Ghost:
You're right, western jackasses shouldn't attempt to come here to monger and ruthlessly break girls' hearts. I will probably stop meeting new girls and reconsider the plans.
You should really try it here in vietnam man. Give it a shot, no scammers, the girls will cook and take care of you, even treat you and spend some of their money on you, it's crazy. You can find a decent wife in no time here, that is if one is really ready to make serious proposals.


Haha, unless you're Brad Pitt or some famous movie star, the only way you will have 3 girl a day fuckathons ANYWHERE in the world is with prostitutes.

I'm planning on doing that one day. Not masturbate for like a week and then take a viagra and go in the morning and f**k a whore, then go back in the afternoon and f**k another one, then take another half viagra pill and f**k one more girl at night. That's one goal I have.
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Re: Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

Postby cdnFA » Wed May 18, 2016 11:17 pm

So many pages.

People, it is an Apples and Oranges thing.
They don't offer the same thing.

I'd think the ideal situation is to have a girlfriend/wife who you actually like and get along with and doesn't mind if you see prostitutes on the side if you have the money for it.
If I had to make the choice, if I had one and won the lotto which would make the other affordable, I'd probably stick with the wife. However again, if you prefer oranges, apples just won't do and vice versa.


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Is it true that many escorts or other p4p girls in the States won't even kiss their clients? Anyway, $200+/- for an hour of intimacy with a clock watching escort sounds like a bad deal to me, even if she does kiss.


In Canada they do. To not kiss is considered a deal breaker by many. There are some who might not go full deep french kissing, and of course if your breath reeks many probably won't.

As for the clock watching, with the good ones, they won't make you feel like it is a commercial transaction. I suppose if you go for a half hour option it might be different but if you are looking for intimacy, you are going for longer times.


Oh and strippers don't kiss. They might at the clubs that are basically brothels and you can get it on take out but otherwise they tend not to.
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