Yeah that is the ideal. Have a wife and also see prostitutes on the side.cdnFA wrote:So many pages.
People, it is an Apples and Oranges thing.
They don't offer the same thing.
I'd think the ideal situation is to have a girlfriend/wife who you actually like and get along with and doesn't mind if you see prostitutes on the side if you have the money for it.
If I had to make the choice, if I had one and won the lotto which would make the other affordable, I'd probably stick with the wife. However again, if you prefer oranges, apples just won't do and vice versa.
In Canada they do. To not kiss is considered a deal breaker by many. There are some who might not go full deep french kissing, and of course if your breath reeks many probably won't.Rock wrote:
Is it true that many escorts or other p4p girls in the States won't even kiss their clients? Anyway, $200+/- for an hour of intimacy with a clock watching escort sounds like a bad deal to me, even if she does kiss.
As for the clock watching, with the good ones, they won't make you feel like it is a commercial transaction. I suppose if you go for a half hour option it might be different but if you are looking for intimacy, you are going for longer times.
Oh and strippers don't kiss. They might at the clubs that are basically brothels and you can get it on take out but otherwise they tend not to.
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If my upcoming year in China fails, I may give it a shot. Thing is, I'm not willing to even attempt the language or learn about the culture, and the EFL situation is dicey there at best. But I'll never say never.
Dicey EFL situation how. There isn't quite the volume of information on Nam as there is for China, Japan, Korea or teaching English in Thailand.
On the language thing, it shows respect to learn the language which can help but...
Either you are going to stay in which case, you really should learn the language
You are going back home in which case only those who know English or whatever your native language is very well are options in which case knowing her language is helpful to impress her but the only girls who qualify can already speak to you.
Laos seems interesting.
Dicey in its work visa system, for one. Pay sounds good enough, but it sounds like a nightmare in a lot of ways. Hardly ever find anyone who says it's a long term spot to teach. I'm not willing to try the language because I already dabble in Spanish, Chinese, and Tagalog. Those are the only ones I'm interested in for now. If I went there, it'd probably be to teach a few months, snag a wife, and get out.
A few months, maybe possible in a place like India and neighbours where arranged marriages are a thing, but I'd have serious doubts about any viet woman you can find to marry within a few months. Gold card issues for example. Also I am pretty sure Vietnam has some of that Chinese style, nice girlfriend turning into a materialistic nagging demon hag thing going on, it would take more than a few months to sus that out.
Speaking of which, I feel the same way regarding India, few months sure but that polluted unpleasant and very hot place... would rather just go in and get out. Same about China really except the temp varies, the cooler it gets the more polluted, for this northern lad it's damned if you do, damned if you don't.
if you're looking for a wife, yea sure you can find one in a 3rd world country, pretty easily too, if you're a white guy. but the type you'd pick up and marry within a month or two, let's face it, those aren't exactly the highest quality of women. Better than a western bitch woman of course tho.
Cambodia is great too. Not too developed, so the women are still pretty simple and traditional, but modern enough so that the women are all ready to f**k westerners.
Check out Cambodia, it's a great country to chill in. Also be sure to check out Sihanoukville, the beach city there, you can buy weed legally from certain pizza shops there, and it's got a super laid back atmosphere. Really awesome place.
I'm thinking of doing that in the next year or two. Things continue to deteriorate, and this pipe dream about "love" and looking for a girl who fits you well is fading fast. All you really have to have is 'insert tab A into slot B' and a girl who will perform her mother-and-wife duties. Would still guard myself in case she ever tried to cheat or otherwise f**k me over, of course.
You are waaaay off financially. Perhaps in the USA or Europe it would cost that much but in many third world countries even half of that $130.00 you calculated would be pushing it.
Not to mention the girls a man can sleep with without spending a dime. Or the girls who, even when you may pay for some drinks for the both of you, aren't after the cost of those drinks... the drinks are just the ticket to a ride they want to go along on.
I get it, you are some sort of Prophet of Paid Poon, but there are many men who have valid reasons not to see hoes. And one of those reasons, is finances. The "p4p is cheaper then regular sexual encounters" thing is, IMO, a fallacy. Ideally would most men not want sex daily? At around a hundred bucks a session, that would be two thousand upwards to three thousand bucks a month just for sex alone... I'm not broke by any means, but there's no way in hell I can afford that and not starve to death unless I eat the girls after.
There are many guys for whom this is not an option. The sorts of guys who would consider uprooting their lives to go overseas.
There are also many guys for whom getting sex from willing girls without needing to throw money at them constantly is something that can happen but extremely rarely.
I get it, you are a hot stud. Apparently a hot stud who doesn't have a clue how the rest of us have to live.
I was chatting with this girl I know on facebook. She knows my inabilities with women, she even tried and failed to set me up when every female she knew or we ran into had a boyfriend. One night she said I should go out and get laid. I told her I didn't have money for prostitutes and have a pretty fanatical no rape policy. At first she said she was just saying I should pick up someone. Here is a girl who actually has seen my dating problems first hand and yet completely forgotten that just getting a girl to f**k is not an option for me. A hot chick who just had no idea what it was like even though she had seen my experiences herself.
You sound like this girl. You don't want to be like that girl on this topic. it shows a staggering level of ignorance, insensitivity and lack of empathy.
Your advice is a bit like telling a homeless person to just quit drinking, get off the drugs and get a nice Wall Street job. Because it really is as simple as all that. Except it isn't.
Perhaps, in third world countries, the women would not piss me off - to the point where I'd actually want to talk to them and have anything to do with them. Infact, I'm sure that's the case!
I think I have so many bad experiences with women, throughout my whole life, in just seeing them - not directly even interacting with them... that I just completely avoid them! These have all been North American women, made me feel this way. I never have, nor would I ever feel this way around girls from other countries. They inspire the opposite feelings in me, of warmth, romance, connection and attraction; than do North American women, whom with everything is a competition; who are just cold, nasty, Ice queens - who try as hard as they can to be as cold & independent as possible (repelling you) - and then think this is sexy. And can't understand why you're not attracted back- chalk it up to your male chauvinism and walk away. These women are confused.
It sounds so nasty to say - but it's true. Females get offended when I say it - it's true. I love how the females will speak up and say, "Well you just have to get to know them. You are judging them based off of their appearance, and you don't know them", trying in some funny half-assed way to shift the blame ONTO you. The victim becomes the abuser. This vitriol level is astounding, and it completely wrenched me the first thousand times I encountered it. I thought I must be going mad - or have entered the twilight zone of logic/reason. You're goddam right I'm judging them off their appearance.
Why the f*ck should I lie about it, just because you want me to cover up reality, so that it makes you feel better?
How imbalanced and abusive is this crap.
I don't even have the urge or a drive to go with women, America kills that in me. No other country could do that. I'm on hiatus as a man. It's probably the worst depressing thing, ever. Especially because with this drive goes the drive of Man himself; to work, achieve, conquer.....feel like a man and live life.
I blame the Jews for this f*cking crap. And, for trying to turn me into a fag - by proximity of 500 faggots around me in any square mile - whom de facto try to turn you into a fag also by looking at you, and cruising you.Why can't women do that? I feel like this countries literally designed to try and turn you into a faggot.
Misery and happiness are only states of mind.
well as you pointed out, PUA/game is for poor men. Even Roosh admits he is poor.
If you can afford to pay for prostitutes, you can't afford not to. What that means is that if you are financially well off enough to be able to afford prostitutes, you don't have the TIME to go chase girls in bars/clubs because you're too busy with your job/business. This is the secret why rich men use prostitutes, because it is a HUGE time-saver for them and TIME is money to a rich person.
Now if you're poor, working a minimum wage job, or living in a trailer park or shitty area, then yea PUA/game is probably your only choice.
FUnny how we never see rich men at bars and clubs. It's only middle class types and poor types. The truly rich have women already flooding to them so they don't need to chase women. The rich simply need to throw a couple of bucks at a girl and she is his for the night or for the month or whatever. A rich man can BUY a girlfriend.
NEVER take advice from a woman, especially about dating. And NEVER reveal any sort of weakness in front of any woman. A good rule of thumb is - unless you're f***ing her, you have no need for her as a friend. THAT is how you avoid getting friendzoned. If I sense a woman is not down to f**k, then I don't even bother remaining friends with her, because literally what can she bring to my life of value? All she will do is weaken me with her female mindset.
I'd suggest you to find some good strong male friends and learn from them. Do not ever take advice from a woman, that is literally one of the most pathetic things you can do. Stop talking to this chick and block her completely, she will bring nothing good to your life and will only bring negatives. Tell her that SHE should f**k you and if she says no, then block her and never talk to her again.
Unless you're f***ing her, you have no need for any female in your life. That is a golden rule to follow.
Well there's no need to be friends with any woman unless you are f***ing her. So does it really matter if you have no female contacts? Women will do nothing but make you weak, so it is best to avoid them as far as possible. Get a manly job in construction or some other type of job that involves mostly men working. Avoid the feminist PC office environment at all costs. Working in an office will turn you into a beta male faster than anything. The only type of men who can survive in an office environment are the p***y beta male faggots.