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Re: The Irony of Eric.

Postby Winston » Sun May 15, 2016 7:41 pm

Announcement - Warning to Cdnfa:

Cdnfa,
I've received complaints about your posts and examined your posts and see that Eric is right. You are unduly mean spirited just for the sake of it, and have been heckling and harassing people like Eric and others. It's not just a few posts either, but a consistent pattern from you. So I will have to issue a WARNING on your account for bad behavior and mean-spiritedness.

Free speech does not protect bad behavior. We need to have some basic moral standards on this forum too. We should add a rule here against being overly mean-spirited and heckling/harassing others, just for the sake of it, without presenting any legitimate arguments or reasons for it. I don't see what Eric did to deserve that. Eric only stated his views and knowledge on the issues. None of that deserved any heckling.

Anyhow, please shape up your behavior Cdnfa. Stop the mean spirited attacks and heckling. If you disagree with something, you need to learn how to express it in a polite CIVIL manner. Use some tact. Learn some people skills. Rubbing someone the wrong way and then continuing to do it is NOT a wise thing and only makes matters worse.

This is your first warning Cdnfa. The next strike will result in a TEMPORARY BAN on your account. Please note this. Thanks for your attention. We hope you learn to behave more properly from now on and help make HA a more civil community.

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Re: The Irony of Eric.

Postby Zambales » Sun May 15, 2016 7:46 pm

cdnFA is just an online bully whose aim is to vent out his frustration on others by starting arguments. This attention seeking thread epitomizes how pathetic he is.
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Re: The Irony of Eric.

Postby cdnFA » Sun May 15, 2016 10:15 pm

Eric wrote:
gnosis wrote:Both cdnFA and Eric should be banned. Mods, hello? You need to moderate the forum.


Yea, no. I don't think so. That's hardly fair. There is one here who wants to keep arguing. I'll tell you that it is not me. "Lets ban them both" is not a good idea! Jesus Christ, what's wrong with everyone. Can't anybody see I don't want to argue - but am defending myself? - but this jackass keeps going on. This guy just keeps spinning shit and trying to make me look like "the bad guy"! He should be banned.


So you don't see that you are also keeping this going?

The huge difference is that I point out the fail of what you say, you insult me.

A 2 way ban, sure I can accept that, but your idea that you are innocent and this is all me is again, not grounded in reality.

Everything I post is in response to something you have said. usually some way off base personal attack. Think about that while you whine about your innocence.
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Re: The Irony of Eric.

Postby cdnFA » Sun May 15, 2016 10:19 pm

Adama wrote:cdnFA should be banned for starting this thread. This is trolling. No one should ever start a 500 word essay, complete with pictures, in order to call out another person. Making a whole entire thread just to troll someone else with a different opinion is the height of trolling. Nobody should be allowed to get away with that.

...

The problem is that some people are reprobate, always looking for a fight, and any sucker who bites back will become the day's target. Thats why I put fools on ignore immediately.


Or maybe like Eric claims, I am defending myself. He is constantly accusing me of things. Claiming the moral high ground. I sat on the evidence for a day and he kept doing it. I figured I'd shut him down. That isn't trolling.

As for looking for a fight, only one of us wants to beat the other person up, and it ain't me.
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Re: The Irony of Eric.

Postby Winston » Sun May 15, 2016 11:26 pm

Adama wrote:cdnFA should be banned for starting this thread. This is trolling. No one should ever start a 500 word essay, complete with pictures, in order to call out another person. Making a whole entire thread just to troll someone else with a different opinion is the height of trolling. Nobody should be allowed to get away with that.

Just think of how much time and energy it would take to write that essay, take those screen shots, host them, link them and post them. Someone has the wrong motivation in mind. We aren't on here to destroy each other.

Besides we'll never meet one another, and we each have our own problems.

The problem is that some people are reprobate, always looking for a fight, and any sucker who bites back will become the day's target. Thats why I put fools on ignore immediately.


I agree. And it's dishonest for the troll to pretend to be innocent or a victim too, when his actions show that he attacked first and threw the first insults. It's the classic trick of accusing the other side of something that you yourself are. The forces of evil do that all the time in order to deceive.

By your standards though, Jester is a troll too, since he started 2 threads at least designed to insult and troll me. Rock defended it as a joke. But whether it was a joke or not, it was definitely mean spirited and bad behavior. Kind of crossing the line. People who do that kind of thing have a character flaw or issue. That's why Jester got a proper warning for that too, but it was a friendly warning though, the kind that a well meaning school teacher gives his/her students.
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Re: The Irony of Eric.

Postby Winston » Sun May 15, 2016 11:30 pm

cdnFA wrote:
Adama wrote:cdnFA should be banned for starting this thread. This is trolling. No one should ever start a 500 word essay, complete with pictures, in order to call out another person. Making a whole entire thread just to troll someone else with a different opinion is the height of trolling. Nobody should be allowed to get away with that.

...

The problem is that some people are reprobate, always looking for a fight, and any sucker who bites back will become the day's target. Thats why I put fools on ignore immediately.


Or maybe like Eric claims, I am defending myself. He is constantly accusing me of things. Claiming the moral high ground. I sat on the evidence for a day and he kept doing it. I figured I'd shut him down. That isn't trolling.

As for looking for a fight, only one of us wants to beat the other person up, and it ain't me.


I don't think so. For example, in the thread about Satanic child abuse, you began throwing insults at Eric first. He merely reacted. You were supposed to debate issues, not use ad hominem attacks. Your posts were also mean spirited and you acted like a bully in the way you carried yourself. That's not a tactful civil way to discuss or debate. You need to learn t behave like a gentleman. Insults don't constitute valid arguments. You need to take a break so you will realize what you did wrong after doing some self-reflection.

Btw, if you can show in any thread where Eric started insulting you first, then by all means show me. Prove it to me.

Btw everyone, next time please do not start whole new threads just to bash someone. That's too drama queenish and trollish.
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Re: The Irony of Eric.

Postby cdnFA » Mon May 16, 2016 4:02 am

Winston wrote:
cdnfa wrote:Or maybe like Eric claims, I am defending myself. He is constantly accusing me of things. Claiming the moral high ground. I sat on the evidence for a day and he kept doing it. I figured I'd shut him down. That isn't trolling.

As for looking for a fight, only one of us wants to beat the other person up, and it ain't me.


I don't think so. For example, in the thread about Satanic child abuse, you began throwing insults at Eric first. He merely reacted. You were supposed to debate issues, not use ad hominem attacks. Your posts were also mean spirited and you acted like a bully in the way you carried yourself. That's not a tactful civil way to discuss or debate. You need to learn t behave like a gentleman. Insults don't constitute valid arguments. You need to take a break so you will realize what you did wrong after doing some self-reflection.

Btw, if you can show in any thread where Eric started insulting you first, then by all means show me. Prove it to me.

Btw everyone, next time please do not start whole new threads just to bash someone. That's too drama queenish and trollish.


A thread where he started. How about this one. viewtopic.php?f=14&t=15724&start=15 Actually read the exchange from the beginning.

Starchild posts this

"The usual response of a race that was enslaved by the Jews, destroyed Mars and then brought here on Earth. No Wonder White Race has the same Resonance Frequency as Mars does compared to rest of human race"

I pointed out that this is exactly the sort of crazy that will drive normal people from a forum. Surely even if you agree with him, you must realize that.
I even provided a thread which illustrated how we come across to normal people as a lot of folks here don't seem to get how they are perceived or don't understand the blowback they get, the kiwifar.ms forum.

Eric responded thusly

""the aspergers ridden delusions of a bald pedophile who cant even fathom how to get his dick wet after 25 years"

That's the author of your source, you Dipshit.
Well, you look retarded.

Just shut up, fail."

I wasn't responding to him. I didn't refer to him. I was talking to someone else. He started our conversation and with insults. That would make you incorrect. Furthermore it makes your comments regarding the thread disturbing in their bias that you did not see this.
Also note, he puts in some odd quote, I don't even know how it applies to what I said and it certainly doesn't invalidate what I said.
He calls me a dipshit and tells me to shut up.

He started it in that thread not me. Also you will note that my comment was rough but there was substance behind it. His comments were pure insult.

I respond with
"Says the guy slagging me for being immature. Nice.

Thanks for proving my point again."

Did I insult him. No. I simply pointed out that what he is saying is hypocritical.

So tell me how he was just minding his business in that threat till I started insulting him? That did not happen. The exact opposite happened.
You owe me an apology.

You will also note soon after that Starchild responded and I dropped it as he was not really insulting nor did his comment add anything that needed mentioning.

Eric's response is a collection of projecting and hypocrisy and an odd attempt to link me to a pornographer which I think is reasonable to respond to.
My next response was not insulting, I dismantled him bit by bit in a way he tried and failed to. I didn't call him a dipshit or tell him to shut up.

Quite frankly if you read the thread from the start, he started the insults and I was in the position of defending myself. My comments were insulting in so far that I was pointing out his failures, but his responses were at a much higher level.

Also if you want to see another conversation where he started with the insults, read the screen caps above. Then you tell me I am in the wrong. Quite frankly having someone order me to shut up and insult me like that, I'd be justified to start hunting down everything he says and picking apart every error he makes. I've been showing restraint.
He has been accusing me of doing what he is doing, I posted this thread with the hopes of not shutting him up but at least letting others know how off base he is. Sadly people are not getting it. Considering some of the belief systems that are accepted around here and the high level of intolerance towards real dissent I don't know why I am surprised.

The problem isn't me. The problem is Eric goes into full retard mode whenever someone points out that he is wrong. Like the time when he claimed everyone hates Jews.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30731

I pointed this out as wrong. Not only do even neonazis not believe this but neither does Eric based on past and future comments. He laments that nobody things about issues and how everyone is stupid, I doubt if he really believes that everyone hates jews. Further more in the thread further down he at least accepts the politically correct american exception.
Was I rough. I said this

"What sort of drugs are you on. Seriously. You seem seriously detached from reality. That you actually believe this is pretty bad in terms of your ability to read the world around you. Add to that how you seem confused that people at work don't seem to want anything to do with you and I was the one who had to explain it to you.

You are a weird little man. I guess you belong here.

Are there other forums for those who are interested in moving abroad to get married but otherwise are sane?"


Perfectly normal response to someone who is speaking of something that just isn't real. Other variants are "What planet are you from, it isn't this one"
The detachment from reality is an observation consistent with both the comment that everyone hates Jews and a previous thread where he didn't understand why nobody at work likes him. A usual new nazi skinhead for example would know EXACTLY why everyone hates him. Not an insult, a fair comment. Someone who takes 30 minutes to run a mile has health problems, not an insult a fair comment.
Not a single actual insult in that entire line. Well aside from calling him a weird little man, but seriously going derka derka jihad jihad over that, which could be considered more true than opinion, after all he says his workmates feel the same way.
Oh and note, his comment was directed at our resident old testament loving moderator, telling him everyone hates people like him. Because that isn't hostile at all.

His response.
"Is your reality my reality? Do you honestly think the whole world thinks like you do? .... well, no they don't. Maybe you should leave the politically correct incubator that is America and check out "reality" for yourself.
Most people don't respond well to getting attacked. This guy hates everybody and had to get on here just to make a post about it!
...That's ridiculous, don't expect a positive reaction."


He took a legitimate observation based on the evidence and took it personally and then lied about how I hate everybody.

My response with no insults.

"There is only one reality. In my reality most people don't think the way I do on a wack load of issues. In my reality I have enough mental health to realize it an accept it.

I don't really care if you respond well or not, it isn't as if you are sane. Much like Adama and his "I am posting for those who can be saved" thing I got my "I will mock the loons for the amusement of the sane and myself" thing.
I didn't get on here to make a post on it, I came on here a while ago to get some answers. I stay more out of habit although the amount of nuttiness is close to driving me out as it is annoying and any bit of information I get, I have to wonder if I can trust the source. Some people seem to have it together at least.

Also I don't live in a politically correct incubator of America. I am north of the border. I don't live in a politically correct incubator either. I hear many people, at least outside of work who will say hateful shit about women, fags, blacks and the dirka dirkas. Sometimes they even mean it. I almost never hear anyone slagging on Jews, it is very rare. Well it is very rare outside of those SJW parts of various campuses but they seem more opposed to the state of Isreal and every other western thing not actual Jews, and have support of use Jewish useful idiots. I don't have out with those people.


When it comes to hating jews, you have more in common with feminists and unions than you do joe average. Isn't that ironic. Don't cha think."

This is the point where Eric in his intolerance starts to lose control and also starts contradicting himself. He also doesn't seem to understand what an ad hominem attack is BTW.

"That's because they have no idea what the f*ck is actually going on. Are you done now? You are not the benchmark for sanity, sir. I really don't give a crap about what you have to say - at all. You think you're the only one that has the issues you stated about coming here to this forum? Get a load of yourself and this "me I'm special attitude" that you have. Wow, you're just an amazing diamond in the rough that no one else is. We get it. It really doesn't matter what or WHO's doing IT. The problems remain. Now stop with your insipid ad hominem attacks you fool. Jesus Christ you annoy the shit out of me."

I respond with cold solid reason.

"Bold bits. {{{ the diamond comment I bolded in the original]]] Projecting much. Ohh I have this secret knowledge about space alien Jews and what not and everyone else is stupid except for me.

Those underlined bits are a contradiction

[i]"As for your first points in italics, [[[the part of where nobody knows what is going on I bolded in the original]]] I guess that means you agree with me. You said everyone hates Jews, I said almost nobody hates Jews. You said they don't have any idea what is going on. If they don't know those delusions that you believe in, then why would they hate the Jews.

That is my whole point. Most people don't hate the Jews, most people would consider your views to be comical, silly and bizarre if not lunacy.
After all as you said, "they have no idea what the f**k is going on

I am right. You are wrong. Now we can argue on if you are truly nutty or if I am naive and sheltered but that doesn't change the fact that I am right and you are wrong.

We have also established that your argumentation is weak, you are capable of holding two contradictory ideas at the same time [every hates Jews like I do, nobody has a clue what is going on] and that your grasp of reality is also weak in that even though you go about on how ignorant people are you have this deep burning need to believe that everyone hates Jews no matter how little it reflects the real world.

You are so easy. I guess you will show up at my door and torture me, after all it would be the Christen thing to do.
Is this a product of a dull mind or do you have some sort of more serious issue."


OK that last bit was a bit rough but not out of line.
Eric loses it.

"How old are you man? Grow up. I am done with this nonsense... please find something better to do. Some of the crap you say is so stupid and off base, I'm not even going to respond to it.

Please go away now, and stop interacting with me. I'll block you."


Notice how there is no counter, no argumentation, just a f**k you, shut up you are wrong.

More of the same from there, my pointing out his faults, him throwing insults like some school child.

I am not going to sit back and have someone in effect make stuff up about me without responding. I sure as hell am not going to let pass someone accusing me of being something that my accuser actually is.

If Eric was a well functioning adult, when I pushed back on his everyone hates the Jews comment he could have
1: Retracted, I've done this my self a while ago.
2: Explained that it was hyperbole for the purposes of illustration which I did with something I said that you took exception to.
3: Label it a miscommunication. It could be asperational, if only the "sheeple" would get it, or they would if they knew. Or perhaps he meant many and not hate but have concerns over.
4: He could have just dropped it, I have dropped things here before, not because I was wrong, I just couldn't be bothered at times.

But no, he went full retard. Then he carries it over to the Satanic thread on onto PM. But I'm the bad guy. Sure brah.
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Re: The Irony of Eric.

Postby Ghost » Mon May 16, 2016 4:38 am

I think we should lock them in a cage together for a fight to the death.
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Re: The Irony of Eric.

Postby Eric » Mon May 16, 2016 4:44 am

Ghost wrote:I think we should lock them in a cage together for a fight to the death.



Yes.

Yes!!! Yes!!

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Re: The Irony of Eric.

Postby Winston » Mon May 16, 2016 1:51 pm

Cdnfa,
Don't make your replies so long winded please. It takes a lot of time to go through all that. I looked at that thread again about the Satanic child abuse. Eric may have hurled some insults at you, but you started it still by insulting all the HA members and this forum. So Eric took that personally, understandably. You sort of insulted us as a group. Especially when you posted the link to what the Kiwi Farm forum said about us, which contained many false statements, such as:

1. No one on HA forum has been overseas.
2. No one on HA forum has successfully dated foreign women or married them. They haven't done any better abroad.
3. Anyone who can't get dates or a good social life in the US is a loser, assuming that the USA has a very healthy, natural and sane social environment, that any normal guy can fit into without problem.
4. We all have aspergers or autism on HA, which is reflected in our writings here in the forum.

These are all false generalized statements of course. That discredits that Kiwi Forum. All they do is ridicule there and make false statements. They don't present any legitimate arguments or demonstrate why any of our claims are wrong or bad. Just empty ad hominem attacks. Why you cite such a bad source?

Eric probably got insulted by you due to other insulting remarks you made on other threads. So it didn't actually start in that thread. He was simply fed up with what you said in other threads and the way you behaved.

As to your comments that our discussion about Jews and Aliens alienate other members from joining this forum, well so what? That may be partially true, but there is no rule on this forum against talking about Jews or Aliens, or anything else that's "out there". Why do you expect a forum to only talk about practical subjects or conventional subjects or politically correct topics?

If you are against paranormal topics or conspiracy topics, that is your choice on what you want to believe. Why do you insist that the whole forum ban such topics? Why do you want to ram your beliefs down others throats?

You gotta remember that truth is not always "normal, conventional or politically correct". Truth is often stranger than fiction and often is not politically correct too. Every truth seeker knows this.

Even if you mean well, the way you carry yourself is bad. You rub people the wrong way. Even if your insults aren't direct, they are implied in your attitude and condescending words.

Keep that in mind. Like I said, take a break Cdfna, take some time off and do some meditation and self-reflection. You will learn that it's better to be kind than right, and that others have a right to their opinion and that no one knows it all, including you. So humble yourself. Don't be a know it all.

This isn't about whether your facts or Eric's facts are right. This is about your behavior and mean spiritedness. If you think Eric is wrong, you should be able to debate that in a civil manner, without insults. If you did that, then Eric would not insult you either. For example, rather than ridicule Eric, you can say:

"Eric, I beg to differ. Most people I know do not hate the Jews. So why do you say that?"

Btw, Eric only said that most people hated the Jews. He didn't say "everyone". I looked over his post and he said "most people".

Consider also that if you knew all the stuff and research that Eric knew, you might agree with his views more. Maybe you don't know all the historical facts that he does. A true skeptic will consider that he may be wrong.
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Re: The Irony of Eric.

Postby bostero » Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:52 pm

Winston wrote:Announcement - Warning to Cdnfa:Free speech does not protect bad behavior. We need to have some basic moral standards on this forum too. We should add a rule here against being overly mean-spirited and heckling/harassing others...We hope you learn to behave more properly from now on and help make HA a more civil community.


To be honest, I won't likely last long under the new rules. Between the angry-black-man types, the mongers, the alt-right loonies and the conspiracy theorists that haunt this place, I'd have to rack up a foes list ten miles long in order to post civilly at all times.
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Re: The Irony of Eric.

Postby droid » Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:23 am

Winston wrote:Announcement - Warning to Cdnfa:Free speech does not protect bad behavior. We need to have some basic moral standards on this forum too. We should add a rule here against being overly mean-spirited and heckling/harassing others...We hope you learn to behave more properly from now on and help make HA a more civil community.


You've got to be kidding Winston :lol: are you smoking Tulsi??

Cdnfa has not engaged in even one tenth of the irrational attacks, insulting, lying, slandering and outright trolling with which that jerk "Tapatio89" has pissed on the forum. Yet you let Tepito off with a small slap on the wrist, while chastising cdnfa extensively, give me a frickin' break.

Also instead of wasting time with this, you could've cleaned Tepito's scat from my travel thread, as i kindly requested. Unreal.
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
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