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Why Is Violence (frequently) Seen As Wrong Here?

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Why Is Violence (frequently) Seen As Wrong Here?

Postby Wolfeye » Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:45 pm

Hey, everyone. I was wondering something: Why is everything about "NON-violence" & doing things "peacefully" in America? I don't get it. I get not getting into shit from "inciting violence," but why is it that the people themselves always have such an issue with it? America is generally a pretty war-hungry nation that fawns over the military & thinks the manner of the US military is the way to pattern everything- even when it doesn't work.

America has more problem with a topless woman on TV than they do with someone getting pulverized with a hammer. Seriously, there's more shows about murder than probably anything else (at least on basic cable). Also, public displays of affection are fiercely responded to- even kids hugging or kissing in school is a huge issue where cops are frequently called. It seems a high school girl having naked pictures of HERSELF on her phone is considered an issue, but demanding she get naked & pose for them when captured isn't- neither is doctors in juvie deciding what goes where.

They constantly lock people up- not exactly a "peaceful act" in & of itself (this is juries voting to convict, as well as the government forces making their own moves). For Christ's sake, people act like agreement is defeat & argue against more or less anything the other person says. Sometimes even when they agree with the other person (sometimes it works out to be: "I disagree, I think it's everything you just said," they don't dispute anything & STILL don't say "You're right" or "I agree"). Even approval is frequently looked at in the same way or there's no approval because nothing is ever good enough for them.

So what is the deal with all this "peaceful" conduct? Why is everything about "non-violence"? It certainly doesn't seem to be that voting is all you need to change a situation. Is it laziness? Simple fear of injury? Is it that they are totally known to be an enemy at that point & can't trick the other person? I figure that last one might be a subconscious thing, but it seems that people do that quite a lot here. They figure if they "alienate" that other person, they won't be able to trick them into doing things later.
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Re: Why Is Violence (frequently) Seen As Wrong Here?

Postby Ghost » Sun Jun 05, 2016 1:03 am

Americans are OK with institutionalized violence, but not individuals using violence (even if in self-defense in many cases.)
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Re: Why Is Violence (frequently) Seen As Wrong Here?

Postby Eric » Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:14 am

Because it empowers people personally, physically. That's a no- no when you're trying to have a State run, State powered country.



Notice how back then, fights out in the street used to happen and it was no big deal. It was just accepted - now it's not.
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Re: Why Is Violence (frequently) Seen As Wrong Here?

Postby Wolfeye » Sun Jun 05, 2016 4:42 am

Sensible arguments, both. I still wonder why people give such a shit, though?

I heard "What if a bad guy did that?" pretty much every time someone mentioned fighting back, escape, revenge- anything at all that created an inhospitable environment for attack. The answer, of course, is that it would be an injustice. The thing is, that's not the situation being referenced. It's a "False Boyd Cycle" where someone Fantasizes, Observes THAT, then Orients their Decisions & Acts on them. Doesn't make sense for people that are actually worried about justice & how things actually go to work that way, though.
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Re: Why Is Violence (frequently) Seen As Wrong Here?

Postby Jonny Law » Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:57 am

It is all MLK Jr.'s fault-
Martin Luther King and his p***y Patrol made non violece popular in America.

http://kingencyclopedia.stanford.edu/encyclopedia/encyclopedia/enc_nonviolent_resistance/

Now look at you fuckers. Americans are so f***ing weak, sensative and pathetic.
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Re: Why Is Violence (frequently) Seen As Wrong Here?

Postby Eric » Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:53 pm

Jonny Law wrote:It is all MLK Jr.'s fault-
Martin Luther King and his p***y Patrol made non violece popular in America.

http://kingencyclopedia.stanford.edu/encyclopedia/encyclopedia/enc_nonviolent_resistance/

Now look at you fuckers. Americans are so f***ing weak, sensative and pathetic.


Sensitive.*

And. look at us all now. Apparently, none of us can spell! I guess that was MLK Jr.'s fault, too. It's cool to be angry all of the time.
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Re: Why Is Violence (frequently) Seen As Wrong Here?

Postby MarcosZeitola » Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:20 am

Violence is seen as wrong, or at the very least uncomfortable, by those who have a reason to live for... and people they wish to protect. There are a lot of loners on here, who wouldn't give to shits about a civil war or giant meteor. Those of us who have families of our own, loved ones dear and close to us, a network of friends, those people tend to be more sensitive violence and more likely to wish to avoid it.

If I had no one in the world to care about, or to care about me, and I wouldn't really give a damn about anything... then violence would just be a way to cope with your boredom.
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Re: Why Is Violence (frequently) Seen As Wrong Here?

Postby Eric » Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:09 am

MarcosZeitola wrote:Violence is seen as wrong, or at the very least uncomfortable, by those who have a reason to live for... and people they wish to protect. There are a lot of loners on here, who wouldn't give to shits about a civil war or giant meteor. Those of us who have families of our own, loved ones dear and close to us, a network of friends, those people tend to be more sensitive violence and more likely to wish to avoid it.

If I had no one in the world to care about, or to care about me, and I wouldn't really give a damn about anything... then violence would just be a way to cope with your boredom.



God. You are so much better than everyone else. I can't contain my awe of your holiness....I mean, you've gotta give it to you. You're just IT. Maybe one day I'll be as good as you. I picture you living in a cave somewhere - like Zorro, with a harem along with your family and wife. A very model of sophistication, the world should follow- and be better for it.
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