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Why don't I feel any social anxiety outside America/Taiwan?

Postby Winston » Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:06 pm

How come I always feel social anxiety in America and Taiwan, but not in other countries like Russia or Philippines or China? It's a very noticeable difference. I remember when I returned from Russia to Bellingham, WA in 2003, I couldn't go out for weeks. I felt such social anxiety outside, like a total fish out of water. Why was it so strong? Any of you felt the same way?

Why am I so oversensitive? I feel it in Taiwan too. It's not shyness at all though. It's kind of like a disconnect and not vibing with the people and culture. When everyone is stuck up and antisocial and doesn't want to meet you or make friends or connect with you, how are you supposed to fit in anyway? Plus when people don't have real emotions or souls, which makes it too hard to connect with them, I feel like I don't belong at all, which causes social anxiety. You simply don't feel accepted, loved or validated, as if you don't belong. Eventually it results in loneliness and alienation, which eventually starts to eat at your soul and deteriorate your mental health, which in turn slows down your reflexes.

At this point, you know that psychiatrists in America want to medicate you, because it's profitable to their industry of course, and it fits in with America's plan for a "Brave New World", but you know it's not necessary and not your problem, because you didn't feel social anxiety when you were abroad and happier in a country with more social connection.

The problem with being in America is not about just not being able to get decent dates or women. It's the VIBE that makes you feel bad about yourself, like there's always something wrong with you and you are never accepted for you. When you're in America, the vibe feels very negative and toxic and antisocial. It gives you social anxiety because everyone is too judgmental and toxic and fake. People are always assuming the WORST about you and others. You can't be yourself. There's no freedom to be yourself or express yourself. That's why you feel social anxiety in a toxic environment that tries to bring out the worst in you. The vibe feels empty and soulless too because you can't connect with people, since they no longer have real souls or emotions.

Watch the 1978 movie "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" and you'll see what I mean. Everyone's been replaced by alien clones with no emotion or feel or soul. That movie predicted it would happen and it did. It happened while everyone was "asleep" (pun intended) so no one noticed except those who weren't replaced by clones for some reason, like us.

You know what I mean?
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Re: Why do I not feel social anxiety outside America/Taiwan?

Postby GoingAwol » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:31 am

I know what you mean, Winston. I'm very shy around American women and don't even feel comfortable making eye contact with them because they always reject me. I started talking to foreign women, particularly Russians, about a year ago and it really opened my eyes. For so long, I had thought that I was the problem. I thought that I was a socially inept loser who didn't know how to talk to women. When I started talking to Russian women, I realized that I had what it took to connect with women. I can have playful and deep conversations with Russian women with no problems whatsoever. They laugh at my jokes, blush when I flirt with them, and even tell me i'm very charming. American women, on the other hand, are like robots that never respond to me emotionally. My experiences have led me to believe that they are the problem, not me.
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Re: Why do I not feel social anxiety outside America/Taiwan?

Postby Taco » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:27 am

Winston wrote:How come I always feel social anxiety in America and Taiwan, but not in other countries like Russia or Philippines or China?


Its simple. Friendship is valuable commodity in the Philippines, in western countries it isn't.

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Re: Why don't I feel any social anxiety outside America/Taiw

Postby Winston » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:46 pm

Here's my theory about social anxiety:

If you're in a country where you don't fit in with the people or culture, then subconsciously you feel like the people around you don't like you, and that they are looking at you thinking, "What's wrong with him? He's weird." because you're not like them. So, when you feel that everyone perceives you negatively, you don't feel comfortable in your own skin and thus you become more withdrawn and introverted. You make excuses not to go out because going out isn't a comfortable experience, because you don't feel comfortable around others or with yourself, since you don't fit in. Therefore that turns into "social anxiety". And it negatively affects your confidence, self-esteem and mental health of course.

What do you think? I think that explanation makes more sense than the American psychiatric explanation, which is that social anxiety is a mental disorder that randomly pops up for no reason except due to a neurological imbalance. This implies that society is normal and healthy and that only the sufferer is at fault. It's a false assumption, but no one dares to counter it.

If my explanation is correct, then going abroad is the SOLUTION, not getting medication. What if I walked into an American psychiatrist office and told them this? Would they listen to me and turn away from their drug prescribing behavior? lol. Yeah right. In fact, what if I went to a national conference of the American Psychiatrist Association and told them I have a solution to mental illness that doesn't involve drugs or therapy, and that this was a groundbreaking solution that works? And then proceeded to tell them about the Happier Abroad solution? Would they applaud me and then publish my solution in their psychiatric journals? LOL. Yeah right. There's simply no profit for the drug industry to tell anyone about the HA solution.
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Re: Why do I not feel social anxiety outside America/Taiwan?

Postby Winston » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:55 pm

GoingAwol wrote:I know what you mean, Winston. I'm very shy around American women and don't even feel comfortable making eye contact with them because they always reject me. I started talking to foreign women, particularly Russians, about a year ago and it really opened my eyes. For so long, I had thought that I was the problem. I thought that I was a socially inept loser who didn't know how to talk to women. When I started talking to Russian women, I realized that I had what it took to connect with women. I can have playful and deep conversations with Russian women with no problems whatsoever. They laugh at my jokes, blush when I flirt with them, and even tell me i'm very charming. American women, on the other hand, are like robots that never respond to me emotionally. My experiences have led me to believe that they are the problem, not me.


I had the exact same experience! When I first went to Russia, I couldn't believe how EASY and NATURAL it was to talk to Russian women. In fact, on my second trip there, when I told them that in America, people say I lack confidence, the Russian women would reply, "That's strange. You don't seem to lack confidence at all." So you see, I seemed super confident and comfortable in Russia because I could connect with the women easily. So they were surprised to hear that in America, I was told that I lack confidence. In fact, even with the language barrier, I could still hold normal conversations with Russian girls for a long time.

How can you act confident around people who don't like you, as in the case with American women? We all know that if someone doesn't like you, you and them are not gonna be comfortable around each other, so better that you and them ignore each other. That's why strangers don't talk to each other in America, especially young women.
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Re: Why don't I feel any social anxiety outside America/Taiw

Postby Nomad » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:59 pm

I think television, lack of a community, and the diverse population, pretty much drives people into isolation.

There is so much fear propaganda being pushed now-days in America, its absolutely insane. So there is no trust in the population no more.
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Re: Why don't I feel any social anxiety outside America/Taiw

Postby Bao3niang » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:53 am

If you are so upset with Taiwan and the US, why don't you just decide to sever ties? You actually had a chance in China even with your poor Chinese, but me and quite a few other ex-posters know about what happened in its entirety. It's much better to just do it rather than constantly complain, you have the ability and the resources. I heard you are returning to China soon so this time you'd better be wiser. Wake up, you should just settle with a decent woman in all regards. You are already in your 40s, you don't have much time left to find a wife. Aren't your parents anxious?
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Re: Why don't I feel any social anxiety outside America/Taiw

Postby yick » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:08 am

I think it is to do with your past life, you are in Taiwan and that is an organic link to your childhood - which if I remember rightly wasn't all that happy. And that you are living in your parents place - maybe your presence in Taiwan is keep the past alive, even though it isn't America, it is still an integral part of your childhood and the memories attached to it, it would be like going back to your hometown in essence.

How about Vietnam or Indonesia, as far as I know - you haven't tried being 'happier abroad' in those places yet. But I can understand why Taiwan spooks you out.
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Re: Why don't I feel any social anxiety outside America/Taiw

Postby USA_luxury_prison » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:25 pm

Winston wrote:How come I always feel social anxiety in America and Taiwan, but not in other countries like Russia or Philippines or China? It's a very noticeable difference. I remember when I returned from Russia to Bellingham, WA in 2003, I couldn't go out for weeks. I felt such social anxiety outside, like a total fish out of water. Why was it so strong? Any of you felt the same way?

Why am I so oversensitive? I feel it in Taiwan too. It's not shyness at all though. It's kind of like a disconnect and not vibing with the people and culture. When everyone is stuck up and antisocial and doesn't want to meet you or make friends or connect with you, how are you supposed to fit in anyway? Plus when people don't have real emotions or souls, which makes it too hard to connect with them, I feel like I don't belong at all, which causes social anxiety. You simply don't feel accepted, loved or validated, as if you don't belong. Eventually it results in loneliness and alienation, which eventually starts to eat at your soul and deteriorate your mental health, which in turn slows down your reflexes.

At this point, you know that psychiatrists in America want to medicate you, because it's profitable to their industry of course, and it fits in with America's plan for a "Brave New World", but you know it's not necessary and not your problem, because you didn't feel social anxiety when you were abroad and happier in a country with more social connection.

The problem with being in America is not about just not being able to get decent dates or women. It's the VIBE that makes you feel bad about yourself, like there's always something wrong with you and you are never accepted for you. When you're in America, the vibe feels very negative and toxic and antisocial. It gives you social anxiety because everyone is too judgmental and toxic and fake. People are always assuming the WORST about you and others. You can't be yourself. There's no freedom to be yourself or express yourself. That's why you feel social anxiety in a toxic environment that tries to bring out the worst in you. The vibe feels empty and soulless too because you can't connect with people, since they no longer have real souls or emotions.

Watch the 1978 movie "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" and you'll see what I mean. Everyone's been replaced by alien clones with no emotion or feel or soul. That movie predicted it would happen and it did. It happened while everyone was "asleep" (pun intended) so no one noticed except those who weren't replaced by clones for some reason, like us.

You know what I mean?


I was just about to make a post about why it feels like you can't be yourself here in the states until I saw this post. I know exactly what you mean Winston. It's crazy how easy it seems to become mentally screwed up just by being here for awhile. I don't know if you've noticed but have you seen the looks in people's eyes nowadays? It seems like most people and if not just about everyone is a bit mentally f*cked up. Even just by getting onto facebook and seeing people's pics you can tell there is something wrong with people just by the look in their eyes. It seems like everyone is struggling to stay sane here in the US. It's crazy. Hopefully I can get a better job and save up for that trip abroad pretty soon. I want to leave now.lol
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Re: Why don't I feel any social anxiety outside America/Taiw

Postby livefreeordie » Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:06 am

One of the big reasons for that is the decrepit hatred, mistrust and cynicism women are giving off in that western environment by their programming, either consciously or subconsciously, looking at men like they are potential rapists, child abusers, cheaters, whore-mongers and scumbags, which is rarer to experience with the occasional full blow man-hater who will look at you like you have committed a crime, to the more common 'you are invisible to me' default of most western women, who will avoid eye contact, being in your proximity and generally make you feel like a creep just for having a sexual or romantic interest in women or them. Most western men at least are practical and logical and we can relate to and be comfortable with that.

Of course this is going to make you feel uncomfortable and it certainly made me feel 'tainted', especially when I sensed a woman's fear that I was a goddamn potential rapist, just for walking home after getting off the train at night. Its disgusting and perhaps we need to give them back a dose of their own medicine, with a default, 'you are the one who has something wrong with you' vibe, lol? It really is disgusting how women are treating men as some kind of leper types and you can just feel the lack of respect Australian women have by default, like we are some kind of unnecessary evil in society or something.

What ive come to think is that in Australia, as well as in Perth, WA, people may stop for a casual chit chat and be friendly, but many are very conformist and statist in their thinking, which probably makes me put off a bit of a 'space alien' vibe since I am the direct opposite of that, and I think generally that kind of zombie statist slave mentality isn't matched to being an open minded friendly person that is open to meeting people and making new friends. God forbid anything intelligent is discussed like the reality behind politics beyond the MSM news.

Generally a lot of people aren't open to meeting new people or making friends, because many people simply dont have much in common with myself or yourself, or if they do, are in their own little box world, and I see that sort of 'white picket fence' mentality especially strong or at least getting stronger in men who are with Australian girlfriends and even more so with wives

I find that I feel a sort of 'FU' wall grow around me when im out and about in Perth West Australia, perhaps its to bounce off all the little minded waves of dissatisfaction and judgement and probably more so the unconscious loathing from women, as well as from the conformists aiming their beams of disapproval at me, maybe its all in my head, but I know that there is a growing resentment that I have for conformists and what I am starting to label as the 'zombie herd'.I have no time for zombie interests like football, sports, getting wasted with their mates or crap like that. Nothing wrong with those hobbies but not at the exclusion of being obsessed with them at the cost of everything important and sacred like freedom and decency which is rapidly eroding in Australia.
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