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Re: Warning: The True Consequences of Having Children! Must

Postby S_Parc » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:51 pm

Kradmelder wrote:There is no debate about that. I agree fully that Winston is blaming his father, who appears a decent man. Almost for sure his kid is doing the same. Boys take it hard when their father's abandon them and feel they are somehow responsible. I've taken a few fatherless boys shooting or on day trips on my bikes (at request f mothers). After that, they always want to come visit, offer to help me with chores like cut wood for me etc. My avatar, the second helmet was for a 10 yo boy I took. He took the photo. After a trip on dirt roads I took home to a tiny restaurant on a back road near no town. I bought him a hamburger but he was so impressed he told his ouma (grandmother) that i took him to a nice restaurant and bought him a really nice meal. Ouma wanted to reimburse me but I said it was only a hamburger and chips and a place for local farmers :lol: But for him a rare treat. Mother spends all her money on pubs, cigarettes and bars.

Usually they treat their mother like shit and with disrespect, as if they blame her that their father is gone, and the mothers are shocked at how polite and behaved they are with me. They are so craving a father figure. It is sad. But there comes a point when missing their dad turns to hatred, so Winston needs to reconcile before that happens


Mel's dad and I have grown close over the years. In effect, he's substituted for my own father, who's more or less, a nutcase.
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Re: Warning: The True Consequences of Having Children! Must

Postby MrMan » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:01 am

My wife is Indonesian. She did not like it when our mutual friend, a Canadian woman in her 20's, said she didn't like children. She said Indonesians think there is something wrong with you if you don't like children. And if you want to get married and not have children, they think you are selfish.

From a big picture point of view, we could say that those who don't want to have children are actually the leeches, leaching off the joy in life without contributing to the next generation, not just genes, but physical and emotional support of a child, and teaching and training the next generation of their family.

Children are a huge sacrifice, especially starting out. I hear the teen years can be difficult. My son is a teenager. He's not difficult at this point. He was a lot more of a challenge at 3 months old for me.

But you do get something back from children. You get a lot back emotionally. My girls hug me. One hugs me when I leave and says, "I love you forever.' The four-year-old likes to hug daddy. It's good to be appreciated by little kids. They don't stay little forever. It is good to have your children in your wife. It's good to have people in your life.

I suppose lonely mongers who do not invest any time in family (with the kids they father that they don't know about), can have some fun for 30 minutes to a couple of hours with a girl they pick up at a bar, or for a series of months with a short-term live in girlfriend or what have you. But they go on to the next relationship. When they get to be 70, unless they have cash, who wants to sleep with them? And who is going to wipe their butts when they are 98 in diapers and can't take care of themselves, if the VD doesn't kill them first?

From a purely selfish economic perspective, if you raise your kids with traditional values, they know they have to take care of you when you get older. That's one thing from my wife's culture that I'd like to instill in these kids. My parents are pretty well taken care of. We agreed to keep my wife's parents up. I'd be willing to do the same with my folks. Economically, it does make sense from this perspective.

For those of us who go the one-for-life marriage route, they also say a woman doesn't reach her full orgasmic potential until after she gives birth. Something about the blood vessels expanding. Just based on a sample of 1, I think that may be true. Before the kids, we did have more time to devote to such pursuits, though. A woman reaching full orgasmic potential is beneficial to men, too, since its loads of fun.
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Re: Warning: The True Consequences of Having Children! Must

Postby Kradmelder » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:24 am

Great post MrMan
Mine are teens. One is 18. They have never been any problem at all and actually willingly help a lot. I prefer to spend time with them than anyone else. If you keep doing what you are doing they will not be a problem. You sound like a dedicated father. Kids are the result of bad parenting. Don't give them attention and let them loose around malls and they will find other role models. If you are involved in their life in a meaningful way they will think what would my father say?

I don't agree with you on the 98 thing. One of you will die first. The other grows old alone. While alive your partner is also old so cannot physically help you. You will depend on kids or a nurse.

I agree with you, and your wife, that those who don't want kids as it takes their time and money are leeches. You are the product of a long line of ancestors who sacrificed. Now you must do your bit so it was not all in vain. If you don't want kids all your ancestors have done is now in vain. Only for me the duty is to reproduce your own race. To produce children that look like your ancestors did.

If you are Asian, we'll done. If you are White your dedication to being a father to the next generation is lost to the white race. No offence meant. You have your own value system. Either way you are still a good man doing his bit.
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Re: Warning: The True Consequences of Having Children! Must

Postby Winston » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:48 am

Hi all,
I have some GOOD NEWS and want to share something AMAZING with you all!

After my angry letter to my dad about ruining my childhood by making me leave Palo Alto, which I posted here, I prayed to God and angrily demanded an explanation about why he let that happen, which scarred me for life. I was very sincere in asking and demanding an answer and explanation. A few days later, I received a two part answer to my prayer. The first part came in the form of a lucid vivid dream that was like a revelation. The second part came when a classmate of mine from elementary school, posted our 4th grade class picture on his Facebook wall and tagged me and a number of people in it. When I "accidentally" saw it (not an accident of course, but synchronicity) I replied and then found other classmates, including a sympathetic girl named Marci, who gave me a nice warm hug at a bank near a college I went to in 1992 when I met her by accident there. She saw things in me that others didn't see and was there when I was bullied in elementary school, junior high and high school. Anyway, when I contacted her, she said things as though God were speaking through her that answered my prayer too. So her words provided the second part of God's explanation to me.

In addition, other classmates sincerely apologized to me for bullying me and made up with me. All of this provided me with a lot of inner HEALING that I thought wasn't possible. After that, I felt finally FREE TO FORGIVE and let go. I also realized that what the Bible and Jesus said was TRUE, that if you FORGIVE others, then God will FORGIVE you and you will feel a heavy burden lifted off you. It's a divine wisdom that is really true and can HEAL one of negative toxic energy inside them from angry hurt feelings and psychological scars. I hope you all can do it too. It really does wonders for you. Once you forgive and let go and heal, your wounds will heal too and your body will be healthier as well. Already my body feels healthier and more wholesome and balanced. There is an old adage, "To err is human, but to forgive is divine."

Anyway, I'm going to describe the first part of how my prayer was answered in a lucid dream below by pasting a letter I wrote about it to Marci on Facebook. After that, I'm going to post the words from Marci that are wonderful and provide the second part of the answer to my prayer, which I don't think came by chance. Here is the letter to Marci that I wrote that describes the lucid dream I had that answered my prayer. The important parts are bolded below.

From Winston to Marci:

"Ok heres the dream i had that answered my prayers and demands to god for an answer to why he allowed me to move to fremont to be bullied and alienated, when if i had stayed in palo alto i might have had a normal chilhbood and become a normal adult, rather than spend my life trying to make up for an identity crisis.

I discussed it on my forum and received the usual pep talk from my forum members. Then one night i angrily and passionately demanded an explanation from god, just as Job did in the Bible in the Book of Job.

A few days later i had a special dream. It was like God was showing me his perspective. The whole world and my life too appeared as a grand cosmic symphony. Every event, positive and negative, good and bad, was like a musical note, floating around like strings (like string theory in quantum physics). From afar when you see the whole symphony, there was no good or bad, or positive or negative. Every event in life and on earth played out like a grand cosmic symphony with an amazing beauty. Thats what it all looked like from the highest perspective. It was a breathtaking view and amazing insight! So i said "oh i get it now! I see!"

Now keep in mind that this was a lucid dream, meaning that i was aware that i was dreaming, but stayed with it anyway because i felt like i was being shown something wonderful. After i said "i get it now!" I sat and enjoyed the great view for another hour or so before drifting off into a peaceful sleep.

When i woke up, i realized that this dream seemed to be an answer to my prayers demanding an answer from god. It was a very vivid and lucid dream that felt meaningful and enlightening. It was like god was giving me a glimpse into his view and perspective.

It reminded me of the end of the book of job in the bible, when job asked god why he suffered so much and lost everything even though he was innocent and righteous. God didnt answer his question directly, but instead went into a long poetic diatribe about how he is taking care of everything and is running the universe from the smallest things on up. It seems like i received a similar type of answer, or revelation.

Then a week or two later, on facebook i saw darren posted our class photo from 4th grade. When i clicked on it, i saw a list of people on FB that were tagged in it, including you marci. :) thats when i added you as a friend and asked if you remembered me. You replied yes and then told me how you admired that i had developed a strong spirit and soul after being bullied all those years. You something in me that others didnt see. So your wonderful insight, it seems, was part 2 of gods response to my prayers. When i look at them again, it seems that god was speaking to me through you. Thats when i realized it and brought it up to you. :)

If so then it doesnt seem like a coincidence after all then, when darren suddenly posted that class photo where i found you! Its like he was being used to answer my prayer too. Like all the pieces of the puzzle came together. One synchronicity after the other. Then you told me that you had asked god before to use you to help others. Wow! All the pieces seem to fit together! Perhaps its true what spiritual people say, that there are no coincidences. Maybe everything happens for a reason. What do you think?

Have u ever had prayers answered before? Have u seen or experienced any miracles or healings or amazing synchronicities? Do you believe everything happens for a reason?
Ive had prayers answered before. It seems prayers get answered if u ask for sincere good things with a pure heart and intention. But not if u ask them for selfish or greedy reasons. Thats the pattern ive noticed.

When i was 14, i had no church or Christian friends. So i asked god for some. Then the next day, jonathan johnson, who went to gomes with us in 6th grade if u remember, called me out of the blue, even though we hadnt talked in a whole year. He asked me how i was and when i said i was listening to a Christian radio show, he said he didnt know i was a christian and then invited me to his church where i met some awesome people in his youth group and began going there for the next 2 years. Later on when i asked him why he had called me that night, he told me he didnt know. He just felt a sudden urge to. Wow.

Its too bad you cant talk to most guys about this since most western men today are atheists who have a very negative view of religion and opposed to any concept of god or religion, and prefer to believe that randomness, coincidence and evolution explain everything. Thats become the popular modern view. Theyve lost that spiritual connection that mankind has had for ages.

Another time i prayed for God to help me score points in softball in PE class in 9th grade. The next day i scores some points because the outfielders kept missing easy throws that should have gotten me out at the bases. I couldnt believe it. Something was helping me for sure. Lol."



What do you think? Amazing and interesting huh? Ok now here are Marci's words to me that provided the second part of the answers to my prayer. It was like God or the universe was speaking through her. Here are a series of her letters to me on Facebook. She told me I could post them. As you can see, she has a beautiful soul and sees the inner strength in me and in my spirit which few people do. I've bolded the important parts below.


Marci:

"Of course I remember you! I absolutely remember you! I thought about you often and I remember seeing you at the bank ?? flower Child LOL that's funny. In my later years I went through a process called recovery. I had ended up on drugs and alcohol for many years but I've turned my life around and live it for God. I don't know if that's a flower child LOL but I'm definitely gods child. I often reflect about our childhood and the way you were treated. I now understand that you were absolutely hands-down the most brave and courageous boy because you never lashed out at the bullies. You became a man and didn't turn to rebellion. When I saw you in the bank I was so proud that you had become a man and despite you're being bullied so much in school you had a smile on your face. I've always admired you for that and I think you are very strong man ??"

Marci:

"I'm shuttling some friends around town today and I've been reading little pieces of your comments and really enjoying it! I really want to chance to answer all your questions and talk about some of the things that you're doing now but I'm afraid I'm doing a lot of driving so I can't. I promise I'll get back to you soon or in little pieces anyways throughout the day ?? so happy to hear from you. And depending on what you mean by unpopular... You certainly got a lot of attention anyway unfortunately it was bad attention. I know you saw yourself as weak but I feel like you were the Gandhi of Chadbourne. Sounds like those things that felt so oppressing during her childhood have really fanned the flames of you becoming who you are today! And absolutely you can post my comments on your forum! I really see you as a hero the contrary of A weak child. The ones that were throwing punches where the weak ones! I literally asked somebody just yesterday what happened to Alex Etta!!! Seriously I was talking about Shannon passing and I asked some friends from mission whatever happened to Alex Etta!!??have some of these men who bullied you as a kid made their amends to you?

I would love to hear what you're doing today and I am comfortable hearing things that are out of the box. Even if they aren't things that I'm interested in I don't sit in judgment anymore on others. I just know that we are called to love one another and not judge.
Oh also another thing you mentioned where all those pictures could you tag me or send me those pictures? I don't think I remember seeing them"

Marci:

"ABSOLUTELY!!! I live on the Central Coast now near Pizmo beach. I've been here for 10 years. I think your observation of why bullies are bullying is the exact answer I would give to your question in your first text. I think they pick on The one least likely to fight back. You gave no indication or instigated any of the bad things that were done to you. I used to get so mad at them! I have a very vivid memories of them kicking you literally while you were down. I am so thrilled to hear that David contacted you to make an amends! I hope this brought a little bit of healing. I don't think it was race either as most of our classes at Chadbourne were pretty diverse. I'm fully convinced that they picked on you because you're shy and they were certain that you wouldn't retaliate. Hence the Gandhi comment.

I also agreed that having spirituality and my life has been like freedom from a personal prison. God has freed me from the bondage of my own personal hell. I see him everywhere I go now and I know that he loves me because he proves it to me every day! It doesn't mean that I live a problem or pain-free life it does mean I don't have to suffer through it! If that makes any sense. I'm so glad you found or are on the path of finding the real Winston Wu!!! I knew there was a beautiful person inside there and I'm so glad that those kids didn't squash his fire! Your strength is so evident because you have overcome! Unfortunately we can't say that for all the ones that were bullies some of them didn't make it out of their personal hell :-(

I too have spent time exploring the world and seeing different cultures and experiencing the knowledge that our culture is not the end-all. I also lived in China for a couple of months in a town near Chengdu. Also if you haven't been to Hainan (sp?) Island it's AMAZING!!! Must see!!! I've also been to Bangladesh and Thailand. And lived in Jalisco Mexico for a year!"



Then when I told her that I felt that God spoke through her as a part two of his answer to my prayer, she told me something interesting, that she had prayed to God and asked him to use her to HELP others! Wow!


Marci:

"Wow! I would love to hear about the dream from God! I always ask God to use me to help others and often he uses the brokenness in my life to do so. He loves us soooo much and I love hearing stories about how he takes our pain and suffering to touch the lives around us! I'm so grateful that he answered you in such a manner!

Yes Gomes, my dad was 5th grade so they gave me permission but after much discussion. I don't know why we didn't talk, I hope I didn't tease you or be snobby. I remember you using karate!!! I remember Kristi

No, your voice was still familiar but not dorky...you sound very convenient and grownup.

I am Greatful to have Dina as a friend one fb and we chat off and on. Yes I remember her being teased as well.

* snip confidential secrets *

Lol Fambrini... I would love to design clothing but even more design cars!!

I saw one a while back about the company you started!! So cool!! But haven't had a chance to see the links maybe today.

I bleach my hair (hush finger LOL) no it's no secret

You have a great day yourself! May God continue to reveal himself to you in the most healing and tender of ways!"



As you can see, Marci was saying that my bad bullying experiences in childhood and teenage years strengthened my inner spirit and made me what I am today. She saw in me a deep inner strength like Gandhi that few people see. Like they say, a sword is not strong unless it goes through the flames in the sheath that welded and molded it. So there does seem to be a purpose behind the suffering. At least that's the answer I got.

What do you all think? All this was very deep and meaningful to me, and most important of all, very healing as well. I hope you all got some meaning and inspiration from it too, even though you weren't involved.

I do feel a lot better now in that I feel like I've been able to let go of my hurt, anger and resentment, and healed most of my psychological scars from that period, which I didn't think was possible. In addition, a number of people have apologized to me for bullying me too, which gave me the strength to forgive them. Once I did, I felt a burden lifted off me, and I know it's a good thing too, because if you forgive others, then God and the universe or karma will forgive you too of your "trespasses", just as Jesus said in the Bible.
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Postby gsjackson » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:24 am

Yes, it I inspiring. Gaining those kinds of perspectives is what it's all about. In an instant you dart to power, as Emerson put it. Been a long time since I was able to take that viewpoint. Happy for you.
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Postby starchild5 » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:55 am

All your account will be settled Winston, as I mentioned in my earlier post in other thread. Your Karma balance will be zero at the end.

You must realize and understand GOD himself ...He works with Evil as well..He loves Evil as much as Good. Its very hard to understand God....The more you understand god..The more you will lose your mind...

Our Ignorance makes us angry with GOD. You don't really have to pray to God. That's Jewish aka Demonic energy....After reading your post, I think your problems were even more accelerated due to Christianity as well as being among White Race which are bullies by birth ..They have a great culture but some of them have their DNA wrapped.

Even though I was born in third world...here people do not bully..kids are respectful...I had a normal childhood with expected disappointments and heartbreaks...which is understandable ...

If you lived in Taiwan...your problems would be minimal but then you wouldn't really know the world...but one of those spectacle'd Taiwanese we see ...hooked to mobile phone... :mrgreen:

God is really too far high up to pray too...I think you should do Dharma...You life on earth is a Dharma..that is why your are protected.
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Postby Kradmelder » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:16 am

Winston, Marci says you were not bullied because of race but because you wouldn't strike back, hence the ghandi analogy. Did you ever ponder what kind of people can just stand by and watch a group beat up and kick one kid for no reason? If 2 or 3 other kids manned up and said leave him alone it would not happen? What kind of society is it when no one will stand up? It is like that guardsmen killed in London by Muslims while 100s of people just walked by. A fraction of them could have stopped. That is the normal thing here. Crime is stopped by bystanders. Even Marci, it sounds like she just stood by and watched??

On the other hand, if someone had stopped the bullying you wouldn't be who you are now. Perhaps you would working some brain dead job in a plastic culture.
It is a damning indictment of the state of western society. My dad used to tell me if I saw someone being picked on I should go help him and to never pick on someone just because he is weaker than me. The school called my parents once for bullying. My father sorted my shit out so I never did it again.

These shooting sprees you regularly hear about from American schools, how many of them were by kids who were bullied and felt they had to respond that way? Just because all decency has left society.
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Postby Cornfed » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:36 am

Kradmelder wrote:It is like that guardsmen killed in London by Muslims while 100s of people just walked by. A fraction of them could have stopped. That is the normal thing here. Crime is stopped by bystanders.

I remember a thing years ago where the SA rugby team were in a bus and witnessed some male primate beating up some female primate and did nothing. When questioned about by journalists this the coach or manager or whatever said the idea in SA was to avoid intervening in such matters and leave it to the police. As if to prove them right, the white man who did apprehend the attacker was threatened with jail for racism by the police. It was probably only because of the media coverage that he wasn't charged.
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Postby starchild5 » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:49 am

Kradmelder wrote:Winston, Marci says you were not bullied because of race but because you wouldn't strike back, hence the ghandi analogy. Did you ever ponder what kind of people can just stand by and watch a group beat up and kick one kid for no reason? If 2 or 3 other kids manned up and said leave him alone it would not happen? What kind of society is it when no one will stand up? It is like that guardsmen killed in London by Muslims while 100s of people just walked by. A fraction of them could have stopped. That is the normal thing here. Crime is stopped by bystanders. Even Marci, it sounds like she just stood by and watched??

On the other hand, if someone had stopped the bullying you wouldn't be who you are now. Perhaps you would working some brain dead job in a plastic culture.
It is a damning indictment of the state of western society. My dad used to tell me if I saw someone being picked on I should go help him and to never pick on someone just because he is weaker than me. The school called my parents once for bullying. My father sorted my shit out so I never did it again.

These shooting sprees you regularly hear about from American schools, how many of them were by kids who were bullied and felt they had to respond that way? Just because all decency has left society.


Wow Man...very insightful..I must say...You are very learned and experienced in life..great post
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Postby Winston » Sun Oct 09, 2016 6:15 am

Kradmelder wrote:Winston, Marci says you were not bullied because of race but because you wouldn't strike back, hence the ghandi analogy. Did you ever ponder what kind of people can just stand by and watch a group beat up and kick one kid for no reason? If 2 or 3 other kids manned up and said leave him alone it would not happen? What kind of society is it when no one will stand up? It is like that guardsmen killed in London by Muslims while 100s of people just walked by. A fraction of them could have stopped. That is the normal thing here. Crime is stopped by bystanders. Even Marci, it sounds like she just stood by and watched??

On the other hand, if someone had stopped the bullying you wouldn't be who you are now. Perhaps you would working some brain dead job in a plastic culture.
It is a damning indictment of the state of western society. My dad used to tell me if I saw someone being picked on I should go help him and to never pick on someone just because he is weaker than me. The school called my parents once for bullying. My father sorted my shit out so I never did it again.

These shooting sprees you regularly hear about from American schools, how many of them were by kids who were bullied and felt they had to respond that way? Just because all decency has left society.


Marci said she stood up for me once. But i dont remember it. She was also a snob to me in school. She was trying to be cool and popular too. Some of the guys did stand up for me. But the bullying still continued.

But marci is a child of God now so she has changed. She even went abroad to work as a missionary in a childrens orphanage. So she has a heart of gold now.

Ive never been compared to gandhi though. Lol
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Postby Kradmelder » Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:07 am

Winston, ghandi is good. He was racist, called blacks kaffirs, was arrested for riding on a train with whites as he refused to ride with kaffirs and insisted Indians should be segregated from them. His newspaper writings were full of anti black sentiment.


http://www.minoritiesofindia.org/gandhi-spreads-racial-hatred-of-africans/

He did not want blacks in Indian areas, or schools, and he even helped whites put down blacks in the Bambata rebellion. Wanting more segregation, he was early promoter of apartheid. He instigated separate toilets and accommodation for Indians in prison. And he liked to use racist slurs :lol:


Like mandela he did a good job of hiding his racism to become a hero of liberals he hoodwinked. But his writings covering over 10 years remain and are excellent rants against darkies :lol:
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Postby gsjackson » Sun Oct 09, 2016 10:23 am

Kradmelder wrote:Winston, Marci says you were not bullied because of race but because you wouldn't strike back, hence the ghandi analogy. Did you ever ponder what kind of people can just stand by and watch a group beat up and kick one kid for no reason? If 2 or 3 other kids manned up and said leave him alone it would not happen? What kind of society is it when no one will stand up? It is like that guardsmen killed in London by Muslims while 100s of people just walked by. A fraction of them could have stopped. That is the normal thing here. Crime is stopped by bystanders. Even Marci, it sounds like she just stood by and watched??

On the other hand, if someone had stopped the bullying you wouldn't be who you are now. Perhaps you would working some brain dead job in a plastic culture.
It is a damning indictment of the state of western society. My dad used to tell me if I saw someone being picked on I should go help him and to never pick on someone just because he is weaker than me. The school called my parents once for bullying. My father sorted my shit out so I never did it again.

These shooting sprees you regularly hear about from American schools, how many of them were by kids who were bullied and felt they had to respond that way? Just because all decency has left society.


A couple of years ago I tried to read an anti-Putin biography to get some idea of why he is vilified in the West, since in the five years or so that I have paid close attention to him everything he has said or done has been pitch perfect. The book was by a lesbian who felt alienated in Putin's Russia, so I assumed it would make the most damning case possible.

I got through only half of it, but from that half I came away with even more respect for Putin. To make the case that he is thuggish by nature, she wrote about how he used to beat people up in school, but she neglected to edit out the part where he was doing that to people who were bullying others. Yeah, if American society produced more people like that it might not be such a depraved shithole. That's the kind of man who maybe can stop the whole depraved empire in its tracks.
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Postby Russian1860 » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:23 pm

gsjackson wrote:A couple of years ago I tried to read an anti-Putin biography to get some idea of why he is vilified in the West, since in the five years or so that I have paid close attention to him everything he has said or done has been pitch perfect. The book was by a lesbian who felt alienated in Putin's Russia, so I assumed it would make the most damning case possible.

I got through only half of it, but from that half I came away with even more respect for Putin. To make the case that he is thuggish by nature, she wrote about how he used to beat people up in school, but she neglected to edit out the part where he was doing that to people who were bullying others. Yeah, if American society produced more people like that it might not be such a depraved shithole. That's the kind of man who maybe can stop the whole depraved empire in its tracks.


I won’t hide, it is always very pleasant to hear compliments from the nationals of a country, which has unfriendly politics towards Russia.

Putin is a great man, and he is highly respected in Russia. Even western propaganda media admits that almost 90% of the population of Russia would vote for him, if we had an election this year. Imagine, in USA you have fifty-fifty layout, but in Russia it is took for granted, that Putin will win next election, since Russians simply don’t see any other decent alternative to substitute him.

Unlike Obama, never ever he tried to instill in the minds of people that America is an enemy. He appeals to equity and self-dignity only. I hope, Trump will win over Clinton, which ultimately will improve the relations between our countries on the political level.
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Re: Warning: The True Consequences of Having Children! Must

Postby Kradmelder » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:49 pm

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Kradmelder wrote:Winston, Marci says you were not bullied because of race but because you wouldn't strike back, hence the ghandi analogy. Did you ever ponder what kind of people can just stand by and watch a group beat up and kick one kid for no reason? If 2 or 3 other kids manned up and said leave him alone it would not happen? What kind of society is it when no one will stand up? It is like that guardsmen killed in London by Muslims while 100s of people just walked by. A fraction of them could have stopped. That is the normal thing here. Crime is stopped by bystanders. Even Marci, it sounds like she just stood by and watched??

On the other hand, if someone had stopped the bullying you wouldn't be who you are now. Perhaps you would working some brain dead job in a plastic culture.
It is a damning indictment of the state of western society. My dad used to tell me if I saw someone being picked on I should go help him and to never pick on someone just because he is weaker than me. The school called my parents once for bullying. My father sorted my shit out so I never did it again.

These shooting sprees you regularly hear about from American schools, how many of them were by kids who were bullied and felt they had to respond that way? Just because all decency has left society.


A couple of years ago I tried to read an anti-Putin biography to get some idea of why he is vilified in the West, since in the five years or so that I have paid close attention to him everything he has said or done has been pitch perfect. The book was by a lesbian who felt alienated in Putin's Russia, so I assumed it would make the most damning case possible.

I got through only half of it, but from that half I came away with even more respect for Putin. To make the case that he is thuggish by nature, she wrote about how he used to beat people up in school, but she neglected to edit out the part where he was doing that to people who were bullying others. Yeah, if American society produced more people like that it might not be such a depraved shithole. That's the kind of man who maybe can stop the whole depraved empire in its tracks.


Putin is the only real white leader these days. What the USA has in the 'white' house is a total disgrace. In fact you have to tear the place down and rebuild it after the last inhabitant. The UK had a half jew, owned by jews, now a woman. Merkel, well what can one say about that race traitor? Selling europe out to the invaders.

Putin is not just a man's man in his personal character, he is the leader of his nation, his Volk, and promotes Christian values. He has good credentials to be the voice of his race. A solid Good White Man who stands up for what is good for his people, unlike the weaklings in the west. If white nations had leaders like that, the world would be a much better place. I am sure a hand shake from Putin is his bond. Unfortunately such men are getting rare.

It is very clear when you see the likes of Putin or Lavrov talking with Obongo. You can see who is the man. Obongo and Merkel and co play to the ladies and liberals. Putin there is no mistake keep quiet a white man has spoken.
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Re: Warning: The True Consequences of Having Children! Must

Postby Moretorque » Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:37 pm

Kradmelder wrote:
Putin is the only real white leader these days. What the USA has in the 'white' house is a total disgrace. In fact you have to tear the place down and rebuild it after the last inhabitant. The UK had a half jew, owned by jews, now a woman. Merkel, well what can one say about that race traitor? Selling europe out to the invaders.

Putin is not just a man's man in his personal character, he is the leader of his nation, his Volk, and promotes Christian values. He has good credentials to be the voice of his race. A solid Good White Man who stands up for what is good for his people, unlike the weaklings in the west. If white nations had leaders like that, the world would be a much better place. I am sure a hand shake from Putin is his bond. Unfortunately such men are getting rare.

It is very clear when you see the likes of Putin or Lavrov talking with Obongo. You can see who is the man. Obongo and Merkel and co play to the ladies and liberals. Putin there is no mistake keep quiet a white man has spoken.


Putin is a billionaire from my reading and nobody wants the state to give up it's counterfeiting operation which makes the party members live a grandiose life style from cradle to grave with no real effort involved.

Ron Paul was the real leader for a free society and promoted a honest money system where as dictators will make no mention of legalized counterfeiting and the benefits they reap from it!
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