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Working out - Work your ass off in the gym, eating like a monk while taking years to see decent results. Then you have some guy with good genes who barely lifts twice a week and eats junk food all day long who has a six pack abs. Women also don´t give a flying f**k about your body if your face isn´t handsome. If you´re shredded guys will just think you´re on roids.
going to restaurants - here in Europe it´s usually small portion sizes with low quality for roughly 3x the money you´d spend at a convenient store, buying and cooking your own food.
PUA - same as penis enlargment pills, get rich quick schemes, religion etc...
college - amass a huge amount of debt to work at a dead end job afterwards
jobs - work your ass off to make someone else rich
starting your own business - unless you were born extremely intelligent and know what you´re doing you´ll just lose a ton of money. Most businesses fail.
friends - people only want to hang out with you if you have something to offer them. Nobody just wants to be your friend because you are "nice"
girlfriends/wives - if you weren´t born extremely good looking or rich you will have to settle. Usually for someone unattractive.
personality - personality is a direct product of your upbringing and somewhat genes. You were bullied and thus became a loner in your childhood? Sucks to be you. You´ll be an outcast for the rest of your life after this. Meanwhile the arrogant prick who bullied you is successful in life and popular.
self help and therapy - same as PUA. All bullshit and snake oil.
Social norms - "Success is just a matter of working hard", "be nice to people and they will be nice to you", "women value personality more than looks/money/status" ....all complete fairtyales. The hard working mine worker who works 24/7 his entire life will always be poor, meanwhile Kim Kardashian is worth millions; often times the most evil and sadistic people are the most popular. The good looking jock who makes the nerds life hell gets to f**k all the hot girls in high school and is usually successful in life. Women and people in general only give a shit about your looks/money/status. Christiano Ronaldo could be a convicted pedphile and women would still flock to him.
women abroad - women are the same everywhere in the world. All they care about is looks/money/status. No exceptions.
Depression can have that effect on you, making everything in life seem fake, unpleasant and not worthwhile. It's a very toxic mindset that sneaks up on you, grabs you by the throat and refuses to let go, seeping into every inch and corner of your being. I won't just say "man up and get over it", or give you some sort of tired old cliche advice... I will just state the simple fact that life is pretty chill if you know how to live it, and that while it can get you down sometimes, you should never fail and try to stand up to your inner demons.
No, life is not a scam. There are a lot of scammers, con artists and bullshitters out there who will tell you it's all a piece of cake; obviously, it isn't. But it is not hell either. Sometimes life can be a hell of our own making, because we just don't see the light and the positivity anymore. You might want to seek professional help, if that is what you feel at all times.
If life really was a scame, and nothing was worthwhile, the only solution would be to just "hit the reset button", as in: suicide. That's an awfully sad way to end things, when there is so much fun to be had and so many experiences to be had. All of your examples in this thread can either be easily debunked, do not apply to all people, or are simply a result of your flawed perception as a result of your depression, or a case of confirmation bias, seeing what you want to see.
Is everything in life a scam? No. But it sure feels that way sometimes, when you are depressed and socially isolated. When you feel like there is no easy way out, no easy solution to all your troubles. And you wouldn't be wrong in that: there isn't a be all, end all way that solves everyone's problems for each and every one of us, applies to all of us, and benefits all of us. There are, however, many ways in which you can improve your situation which aren't necessarily a scam just because they take a little more time and effort then you expected them to.
Marcos, WuFan was here a couple years before you came. He had a very simple project that was obvious in every one of his posts -- to make everybody on this site feel like sh*t about themselves. One of his main schticks was to trot out pictures of male models and let everyone know they had no chance of getting laid unless they looked like that. Towards the end, he was trying to get people to mutilate themselves -- e.g. cutting scars in their faces -- in order to look like a suitable bad boy.
I thought he had been banned, and he's the only poster I've ever recommended be banned. I don't know what he's doing back after 3-4 years absence. Maybe he is depressed and is looking for sympathy, but I suspect he's playing head games again.
And WuFan, there used to be an institution in Europe that conceptualized the condition you write of. The institution was called Christianity, and the condition was known as the fallen world. If you really want any answers, you might start with their theories.
I occasionally take steroids and other pharmaceutical drugs. Right now I have almost $1,000 worth in my possession with a street value of $3,000. If I knew how to sell on the street I could make huge profit but I wouldn't take that risk. I've been doing certain drugs since 2013 off and on, and then started a steroid 2014 or 2015 to test how my reaction and results. If I was more dedicated I could do a lot better.
Sounds right. Restaurants are always more expensive.
Penis enlargement pills are scams. Only hormones and pharmaceutical drugs and HGH could potentially enlarge that. Get rich quick or how to many $100,000 or $1,000,000 are all scams. Many protestant preachers are millionaires or upper-class in America, and many people do use religions as a way to only improve their finances. Tithing, donating, etc takes away your own money and gives it to others. The same people who control the governments, the own the corporations, control the media, control the banks and money supply, also control organized religions. It's a matrix and the Rothschilds are at the top of them all.
For most of history people didn't need to go to college. They are taught through apprenticeships, learned how to read and right and schooled in their homes. Degrees only helped people stand out or more rapidly get promotions or top jobs up until the 1970s or 1980s and feminism flooded the job market with a +100% number of workers. Baby boomers+feminism+globalization+corporatocracy=college is mostly a scam once again benefiting the professors (who many are upper-class), banks (many are owned by the Zionist Cabal), and the Rothschilds (who own everything). Now most jobs are minimum wage, people work 2 or 3 minimum wage jobs, and now with Obamacare people have to buy health insurance or get fined (more tax revenue to the Rothschilds and the American plutocracy) and more money to the insurance companies (once again owned and controlled by the Rothschilds and their Zionist Cabal).
That's exactly what any regular worker does. Making someone else rich. Most people are just a serfs to make their feudal lords richer.
Regulations, taxes, zoning rules, high property costs, increasing costs of living, and other factors which keep increasing are designed to intentionally prevent people from having a good chance of success. It wasn't always like that throughout history. Only since the 1960s-1970s was when it really started to become like that.
Sound accurate, especially in the Western World.
Money matters just as much or more than looks. Settling is a choice. But for most guys settling is the choice, either between someone unattractive or a tainted slut.
Sounds very accurate. An outcast will never feel part of society or truly fit into society.
You're right. It is all bullshit. Just to enrich the wallets of other people.
Social norms only exist to prevent certain people from getting something very desirable. Why has society been told it's wrong for a 30 year old man to marry a 15 year old girl? Because aged women don't want men marrying a youthful and fertile young woman, sluts don't want men going for the virgins, and feminism+careerism+harlotry helps to make women undesirable.
That's true. Females only really care about looks/money/status.
Everything in life is just a transaction with one side getting more than the other. The only thing this isn't true is when a person refuses to settle or refuses to engage in a specific transaction.
Yes. It is. Get help through gemstones...The real creation of God.
God will never create us. We were the creation of mining...We are not that special as we think...and earth is a total waste dumb
I pretty much agree with your post. I remember when I was a kid I couldn't wait to be an adult, and now that I'm an adult I sometimes want to be a kid again or just leave this place all together because of many points you illustrated above.
The OP is right, and yet the world is full of men who do it anyway, overcome all that nonsense and build great lives for themselves.
“b***y is so strong that there are dudes willing to blow themselves up for the highly unlikely possibility of b***y in another dimension." -- Joe Rogan
Yes and no. Women are the same anywhere you go, fundamentally, as female nature is universal. But hypergamy isn't rampant in many saner cultures. And governments in developing countries don't have the wealth to enforce feminism, although much of the world was influenced by it to an extent.
You whiny candy arsed wanker.
You are going to look far better fit than not, you are going to feel far better than not if you engage in an exercise programme. My internal dialogue takes over a lot more when I am out of action physically than when I am engaged in a running programme. If you read about a lot of world class athletes, they get depressed when they are injured and unable to train.
This is the main reason why Winston is raging about his childhood - he is unable to block the negative narrative from the past, it comes whenever it wants and mentally overwhelms him because he is not empowering himself physically and the negative 'chattering monkey' that lives within all our consciousnesses takes over - I know that because it does that with me when I am out of action. That is why depression is at an all time high even though we are wealthier and more at peace than at any time in history, because people don't move their arse enough.
He doesn't need a woman at this moment in time, he needs a running programme - and it wouldn't take years to transform him - it would take six months.
So being fit and in shape may or may not get you the woman of you dreams - but it does fend off a lot of unwanted mental trauma
Just wanted to post another scam and that would be that here in America the average person has been forced to rely on the automobile.
The invention of the automobile itself is just fine, but what the average person doesn't know is that starting around the 1950s big oil companies systematically dismantled the excellent public transportation systems all throughout the United States and forced Americans to buy cars. This was great for big business, but horrible for the average person financially.
An automobile today can cost as much if not more then a house, and on top of that you have lots of expenses that go along with owning an automobile which is a hugely depreciating asset! And in 2016 the automobile doesn't even last all that long to justify the cost.
The automobile should be diesel engine powered and should last at least 500k miles, but what people are actually paying for is a car that will last 250k miles or less because it's gasoline powered.
The high cost of cars doesn't necessarily come from better cars being built, but selling people on the finishing items such as heated seats, premium leather, 18 inch rims, or wood grain interior which really don't matter once the engine or transmission dies.
Here is the list of all the expenses that comes with owning an automobile:
- The cost of a car itself
- Road tolls
- Oil change
- Replacement car parts
- Cost to wash/detail car ($3-$3,000)
- Annual Inspection
- Annual registration fee
- Every 3-4 years a drivers license renewal fee
- Labor fee for a mechanic ($100 per hour)
- Any traffic Ticket violations
- Any Parking Tickets violations
- At an important event you have to pay to park your car or valet parking ($20)
- Pay the meter to park ($.75) or you get a $35 dollar ticket
All that said, the same can be said for owning a home in this day and age.
It's not just big oil. Cheap, efficient public transport is always resisted by retailers because it would allow blacks to spread their reign of terror and general vileness over the entire country rather than being largely confined to their niggerhoods.
Disagree. At Winston's age and weight a running program would just beat up his joints and exhaust him. He'd just be smaller but with the same pear shape. He wouldn't be able to see results that motivate him. He needs to hit the weights, or some type of resistance training. He will start to see results in 2-4 weeks and then motivation will kick in. And according to everything I'm reading, weightlifting is better than aerobics for burning fat, doing so for 24 hours.
Without endorsing the bigotry, I have to note, sadly, that Cornfed is right. A lot of bus routes have been cancelled, or cut back significantly, to limit the access of people who have to rely on public transportation.
Though I do agree a good weights programme would bring great benefit to him (and his quest for a wife) on reading about his attitude to exercise in general and what he considers himself to be 'non-alpha' male, I doubt he is going to pick up the dumb bells anytime soon, but indeed, he would benefit greatly from a weights programme.
As for running, the reason why people get beat up joints is because they do too much, too soon and without the proper equipment, I am older than Winston, heavier than him by a good 30 pounds (and a lot taller) and I have a regular running programme of 4 miles a day for five days a week - I wear knee support sleeves which help a great deal. It helps with controlling the inner dialogue as well as the weight - it's all academic because he is going to run or lift weights, is he?
In my early 20s I used to work out 6 days a week. Even took steroids to get that male model fitness look. I used to think body mattered. I had a great body, but working out made me even more depressed. When I went to a public place I would see skinny fat guys with good looking faces who never touched a weight in their lives with hot girls. Meanwhile I was still completely invisible even to fat girls. I eventually completely stopped working out because women didn´t care and I´d rather spend the time doing something I enjoy and eating food that I like.
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