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I hear many fempats or female expats often get a dose of their medicine when they go abroad. It depends on where they go, to be honest.
Places like Spain, Italy, Germany, they enjoy almost as much attention back home assuming they are from the US/UK.
But when in the Eastern world, they face harsh realities to how things really are. Not as much attention, increased sexual competition by local women, etc etc.
Choose wisely, ladies.
It depends on how they look. If they are fat and not pretty they will be ignored if they go to Asia but if they are slim and attractive than local guys do want to be with them but are shy. The expat guys are usually busy chasing local girls but you do have expats hooking up with each other.
There are women from Central/Northern Europe who prefer to stay in Japan long-term, married with a Japanese
I am suprised how many they are within the German speaking community in Japan.
However I do not know even one woman personally who is from USA or UK or any other English speaking area.
Those women, wherever they show up in Asia, are well-known to start immediately to feel 'discriminated' if ignored, are complaining about 'sexual harassment if NOT ignored, are complaining about Western male losers looking for Asian doormat-girls only, are claiming all women in Asia are oppressed, they are never satisfied and never look friendly and happy and finally most of them leave - back to USA or Australia etc.
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I am all for women going abroad, and I am certainly for Anglosphere women coming to Asia for a year or two to re-evaluate their true position in the world, something the vast majority are blind to.
A lot of women from the English speaking nations are quite racist towards Asian men in general and would never consider dating one. I always ask that question about dating a local when I hear about their three to four years of solitude and the answer is always 'I don't like them' ladies who are politically and socially liberal in every other way. They are looking amongst the small expat bubble of men that may or may not exist in their locale but most of these men are after local ladies - even if they didn't like the look before they went there (me for sure) they soon adapt and for a lot of men, that is all they are interested which lasts a lifetime.
Russian, Scandinavian, German, Polish etc women - seem to be more open to dating Asian men - American, British and Australian women certainly have racist dating preferences which is why they come up short in places like China.
As for Anglosphere women going to Spain and such countries - they always do well, find dates - I am all for it to be honest. Why not?
When I was in Cambodia ~12 years ago and hoes could be had for >$10, it was really funny to see how expat men would treat females like part of the furniture or like dirt. We called them FWC - fat white cows.
It also depends on their phenotype. If they're blonde Nordic girls and if they go to Italy or Spain, they wouldn't be hit on quite as much. In Southern European countries where many people are Mediterranean (olive skin, dark hair), local men are only chasing local women. Similarly in Mexico, a man or woman of Mediterranean descent is not going to date a blonde Nordic. Mostly indomestizos or full blown Amerindians would date Nordic people.
Matt, you're getting brainwashed/gas-lighted by tapioca. Now you even have the same language, WTF is going on?
Beware of that character, don't say we didn't warn you.
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
The guy knows a lot about Latin America because he lives in Mexico, and he also traveled to Peru and Chile. And I have traveled more extensively in Mexico this year. We (Tapatio and I) even met up in Mexico City last month. Anyways, I haven't seen a Nordic with a Mexican of predominantly Mediterranean descent in most cases, especially here in Guanajuato.
However, just being Nordic alone does NOT always mean you won't do well with Mexican women, as I have seen Mexicans of Nordic descent. There are numerous other factors that play into this that you have to consider. One is being able to assimilate into the local culture. The first most important thing is that you speak at least conversational Spanish. Next, you observe what the locals are doing - the way they dress, behave, etc. The locals will help you integrate once they see that you're trying.
Oftentimes Americans don't dress nearly as well and have a superiority complex. They don't try to blend in with the local culture but instead they try to impose their culture on locals in foreign countries. That, along with many other behaviors that are acceptable in the USA, are considered rude and low-class in Mexico. So that's why a lot of Mexican women and Mexican men (mostly middle class and above) don't want to date white Americans. It's not race alone that's an impediment.
Mexicans have called me "güero" (white/blonde/blue or green eyes), not "gabacho" or "gringo" (poorly dressed loud arrogant uncultured American), especially after I began wearing more stylish clothes. To do well in Mexico or any Latin country, you have to be able to assimilate into the local culture, and not everyone can do it. Part of the reason I'm able to integrate with Mexican culture is that I vibed really well with my Hispanic female friends in the USA, all of whom were relatively removed from the American cultural poison and still held onto traditional values. Many Spanish-descended people in New Mexico are like that, especially if they grew up in less-Americanized towns in the northern part of the state. Non-gringo New Mexico is very similar to Mexico, culturally; both used to be part of what was then New Spain.
I don't know anything about Mexico - but in Spain, Spanish women go for their own men in a big way. An Anglo-Saxon type who speaks little to no Spanish would get nowhere in Spain with a Spanish woman. Spain is interesting because Latin American men who are short and indigenous end up marrying white Spanish women - all my male cousins who live there have married Spanish women.
And though Spanish women would never date an African American who spoke English (I knew of one such chap who went to live in Madrid and it was a TOTAL BUST for him)they would love to date a Afro-Cuban - especially one who knew how to dance, Cuban men (of all races) have a reputation for being sexy amongst Spanish women.
How would Tapashito do - he would do fine in Spain - short, indigenous mestizos have their fan club amongst Spanish women.
MattHanson would probably get nowhere in Spain, it would even be a worse experience for him than Mexico is proving to be.
All in all - you need to know the language and pass for Spanish to get the nicest looking women. I bomb out regularly in the UK but in Spain - attract the attention of the nicest looking women. British guys who do well in the UK bomb out in Spain on a regular basis. YMMV though...
Now Spanish men will date and marry anyone - they aren't as racist as Spanish women - which is how the likes of Tapashito (and myself...) came to being here - our Spanish ancestors (with myself having more Spanish ancestors than him - of course...)have a history of race mixing and dating and marrying Indians, black women, white women - in fact, lots and lots of Spanish men have married Latin American women who came to settle in Spain, in fact, there is a really good film about this - Flores de otro mundo.
White, western woman in Japan here. Much happier abroad.
I say go for it. However, if a woman, or man, can't adapt to the local culture or stand some harsh words regarding their race they won't make it abroad.
I knew a couple of expat women who went from west to east. Both of their parents were ministers, and they were conservative girls. I think they lived chaste lives.
But they both worked in Indonesia in their 20's. They were both slim and either average or above average looking. I thought one of them had a pretty face based on my on preferences.
But they spent their 20's in Indonesia. I don't know if they dated much. One of them considered a relationship with an expat businessman, but did not go forward with it based on theological differences (which I thought was a silly reason). He was older than her, but otherwise seemed like a top-notch sort of husband in terms of character and what he'd done in life and career and all that kind of stuff.
One of them I see on Facebook and she appears to be unmarried still. I lost contact with the other. Their Indonesian friend, who was quite pretty, married an expat man, who also seemed to be a very decent kind of man and a good catch for her. She married probably in her mid-20's .
I don't know about either of the white girls dating much. One seemed a bit friendly with a Chinese man who'd been raised in the US who was average height for US, so taller than her, and the girls all seemed to think he was good-looking. Indonesians typically sound awkward when they speak English, and maybe that turns western girls off. It may come off as dorky. My American accent in Indonesian may be percieved by local girls as cute. I think French men can get away with having accent. Some English-speaking women find it appealing. So the accent thing may be a negative. Also, Indonesian men, especially on Java, tend to be smaller, and women usually want men who are bigger than they are.
I saw a young Indonesian man of about 18 whose eyes seemed to pop out when he saw a really pretty 16 or 17 year old white girl with blond hair. He went up to her and very formally introduced himself and shook her hand. She sat there feeling really awkward about the formality and did not show any interest. He felt shot down. The cross-cultural stuff can turn women off, and he may not have been her type anyway.
As a man, I don't care if a girl has an accent, does stuff that is a little culturally different, etc. Back when I was dating, if a girl was like that, which they are all from our perspective overseas, and she was good-looking, it was cute and endearing.
I don't know much about single expat woman, but speaking about sex tourism, i can say, that European and ex USSR women prefer to go to Turkey for sex. Usually they are in late 30s, or 40+ and they prefer to stay in all-inclusive hotels in Antalya and Kemer, which are located on the Mediterranean coast of Turkey. Turks don't care whom to f**k, and that is something like Philippines or Thailand for males, who want to boost their self-esteem.
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