Winston wrote:Yick,
Going back to the topic of this thread, I agree that most white women only like white guys. Yet they deny this, which is dishonest. That's a character flaw. They place politeness and liberalism and political correctness above truth and honesty. It's like honesty has no value in this world anymore. That's bad and sad and should not be.
Right, this is what most of us learn the hard way, even the most liberal of women will have less liberal dating preferences.
However, I'm not sure I agree with you that all white men, if they are decent, should be able to get white women in America. That may have been true in the 1960's or 1970's. Possibly even 1980's. But definitely not true today. Today's American woman is very masculine, liberal, bossy, and acts like she's the boss. They don't even act feminine or lady like anymore. Normal men naturally will have a problem with that. Most American men nowadays settle. They don't exactly have much to choose from.
Which is true, but also the barrier for men has heightened, women expect more from a man, even the fattest most indolent woman wants an in-shape man.
Yick, you grew up in the UK right? How much time have you spent in America? Believe me, AW are far more fake and toxic and NOT as down to earth and British women are. You cannot judge American men until you've come to America and see what they have to put up with. If you come to the US and understand what it's like there, you won't blame the white guys there for not getting anyone. Believe me. It's worse than you can imagine.
Well, I can throw that one back at you - how long have you spent in the UK, I know loads of Americans - I understand how combatative, crappy, judgmental and lacking in a sense of humour a lot of American women are - but I do think this problem is one that is throughout the Anglosphere though it might manifest itself in many different ways. But yeah, American women are no prize (the ones I have met) agreed.
The artificiality, fakeness, toxicity and upside-down-ness is beyond your comprehension and will make you sick. You won't judge anyone for not fitting in in America. In fact, you will see that any authentic soul or deep soul or genuine down to earth person would not possibly fit in.
I have met enough American women - I understand where you are coming from.
Moreover, you can't blame adult men for not being able to date adult women, if those women do not need or want men? Those women often have a very anti-male attitude. They dislike males and other people in general. In America, once you get out of school, everyone is in a bubble and wants to be left alone, so they can focus on work and making money. That's the kind of lonely antisocial culture that America is. So there's little hope of dating decent girls once you're an adult and out of school and didn't find your soulmate in high school. You gotta consider the reality of that.
The facts are - and these are undeniable - that most men date and marry women of their own race - especially white people, everyone I know is dating someone of their own race back home, now, it is going to be hard for some people to date, that has always been the case, years ago - unless you were in the military - you could never have met a Filipina (for example) and China was closed off so meeting a Chinese woman from the mainland was nigh on impossible, flights and world travel was a luxury for the rich - today it's easier to travel -back then - you stayed single - that happened to a lot of guys.
Go to America, go out in public and see if you can find any logical way to meet women or date women with a reasonable chance of success. You will that it's like being checkmated in chess without any valid moves.
That's because once you are out of school and into the work world in America, there is no more opportunity to meet good single women. At that point, it is ASSUMED that you already have a wife and family and that all you care about is working and making money, not meeting women or even making friends. From that point on, strangers will not talk to you unless it's business related. Communication is business related only. Everything is business related from then on.
So you are left with nothing to do but work and support your family. You are given NO romantic opportunities. You are not allowed to hit on girls in public or try to pick them up, or you will be seen as a creep and the women may call security or police. Try it. You will see. Trust me. I've been there, done that.
You are LITERALLY left with NO OPTIONS.
Even if you go to clubs, churches, yoga classes, cooking classes, salsa dancing classes, etc. still not much will come out of it. The girls there will be polite maybe, but once you ask them out, they will all tell you they are taken or not looking. All in all, it's a NO WIN SITUATION.
This is the grim reality in America. So you really can't fault white males for not being able to find any decent white females. Even if they are decent white males. This doesn't make them losers. It's just a no win situation.
Finally, how do you explain guys like Rock? Rock is tall, slim, in good shape, intelligent, is successful in real estate and investment and has a lot of money. Yet he cannot vibe or connect with American women at all, especially white women. They scare him. They are too masculine and bossy and strong. He prefers soft modest Asian women. How do you explain that? He's not a loser at all. He is quite successful. But he just doesn't vibe with American culture or women.
Remember there is no such culture that everyone vibes with. Some cultures give off bad vibes to certain people. That's just life. It doesn't make them losers. Not everything mixes or has chemistry or synergy. And everyone's destiny is different too.
Do you understand?
Course I understand.
I am not arguing with any of this, I am in China.
Some men (like Rock) don't vibe with the women from their locale, I don't particularly want to date British women - Chinese women are my preference - I am not Chinese. But most guys are able to date within their own community.
One of my main points is this - going abroad for a woman (alone) is not a good idea, there are many horror stories of it going wrong for you not to do it - there needs to be something more at the end of it than women, you know how hard it can be at times.
And most men wouldn't do it anyway.
What I found back in the west is white men end up with their physical equal in regards white women (unless the were rich).
Some fellas want an upgrade of what their equal is - going abroad is a good way to ensure that - which is what my point was. Who says dating is great - especially when a man gets over thirty, then it is single mum's - if you don't want that then I don't blame you for going abroad.
