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Is the Government Spamming the Forum?

Postby Tsar » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:30 pm

Almost half the Latest 100 Topics are spam now. Most are made by different accounts not the same account.

So odds are it is not just one Troll and maybe it's not even scammers from abroad making those posts.

The government does have a budget where it trolls websites or creates fake social networking profiles and other cyber-sabotage tactics. So considering the amount of spam, the continuous spamming, and the variety of accounts then we are most likely dealing with a government agency trying to drive people away from the forum.

Here's the list in order of probability of who is spamming the forum:

1. The US Government
2. A group of scammers or spammers from abroad
3. The FemNazis
4. Just a Troll or group of trolls
5. The UK Government
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Re: Is the Government Spamming the Forum?

Postby Wolfeye » Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:29 am

How does one find these things out? Like how do you trace it back?
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Re: Is the Government Spamming the Forum?

Postby Tsar » Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:11 am

I can't exactly pin-point the exact building that it originates from but I can pin-point the town or city it originated in and some other details.

So assuming it originated in Washington DC then you know 99.999% probability is its the government

But there's also technology to trick technology into showing your location is somewhere else in the world instead of your actual real IP Address location.

But I think it would be easy to tell. If the trolls keep posting and generating accounts, and their IP addresses are coming from all around the world, then that means it's the Government-paid trolls using cyber-sabotage tactics.

If the trolls are from a few regions then it could go either way. Foreign spammers or the US government. But still, wouldn't most spammers be trying to sell something or some actual junk product or try to get people to reveal information? These trolls are just either sending a massive amount of spam to drown out other actual topics OR they are trying to bait people into clicking those threads and either something is in them that is BAD or there is a link in those threads that is bad with a virus, a worm, malware, or things much much worse than that.

The traditional trolls typically post words, hate speech, offensive comments, pictures that make people angry or disgusting, pornographic images, racist things, or other things that trolls post online. Remove their ability to add links to websites, post images, and add content then the individual trolls will go to another corner of the internet to start trolling unless they keep trolling with offensive comments until they get banned.

BUT these trolls are not traditional trolls. They do not have the "modus operandi" of the traditional or typical internet trolls.

If the IP address is traced to America then either the US Government didn't care about hiding what they were doing OR the trolls are FemNazis, Manginas, or some other group.

Because odds are a single troll wouldn't be creating 10+ new accounts, with different emails, every single day. Everyone including most trolls have a life and wouldn't spend much time trolling except specific targets. Most individual trolls want negative attention and enjoy it, so these trolls posting now aren't after what the traditional internet troll wants.

Also, even small groups of people like FemNazis would likely be posting different types of threads than the ones the forum is getting.

This is why I want the IP Addresses of the Spammers/Trolls so I can look up each IP Address and their location. Then I will have a better idea who is doing this and then I will give my own cyber-nuke response elsewhere on the internet...
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Re: Is the Government Spamming the Forum?

Postby droid » Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:33 am

So assuming it originated in Washington DC then you know 99.999% probability is its the government


I doubt it, and the government sluts have agencies and contractors everywhere, if anything the spam would come from some desert in utah or colorado, assuming they don't mask the ip's in some way.

The 100 topics page can't display non-ascii characters, thus all the "????" so it's just probably chinese or russian spammers.
If you click on the threads, they just show "the topic does not exist" which means they did get taken out by the forum filter. BUT they still make it to the 100-topics page, which means the problem is in Winston's code where they get copied/referenced.

I'm no server/php coding expert but they should check that functionality and only copy the thread links if they passed the forum's filter first.

The main "bug" is Winston not giving a damn about the 100-topics page lol
He should put a 'captcha' on the registration page, i don't know if this phpBB forum scheme allows for that.
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Re: Is the Government Spamming the Forum?

Postby droid » Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:40 am

Ok I see Winston has a registration confirmation question. So they are either signing up manually, or hacking the 100-topic page directly (??)
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Re: Is the Government Spamming the Forum?

Postby Tsar » Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:59 pm

droid wrote:
So assuming it originated in Washington DC then you know 99.999% probability is its the government


I doubt it, and the government sluts have agencies and contractors everywhere, if anything the spam would come from some desert in utah or colorado, assuming they don't mask the ip's in some way.

The 100 topics page can't display non-ascii characters, thus all the "????" so it's just probably chinese or russian spammers.
If you click on the threads, they just show "the topic does not exist" which means they did get taken out by the forum filter. BUT they still make it to the 100-topics page, which means the problem is in Winston's code where they get copied/referenced.

I'm no server/php coding expert but they should check that functionality and only copy the thread links if they passed the forum's filter first.

The main "bug" is Winston not giving a damn about the 100-topics page lol
He should put a 'captcha' on the registration page, i don't know if this phpBB forum scheme allows for that.


Utah has the NSA so if it was in Utah then it could be an off-site NSA sponsored attack.

But I said it's 51-49 that it's the Government vs. Spammers.

Some of the profiles said Zambia, some looked like Russian, Chinese, or other nationalities as well. So logically, how would several or one dozen nationalities suddenly just start spamming and doing on this website? Then keep doing it?

Also, logically, there are much better choices for foreign spammers on the internet. Unless one of them had a scam travel agency or scam foreign dating website, and worked really hard to make people buy it, don't see a point on why Russians or Chinese scammers would be wasting their time here. They could be spamming other websites or be bombarding certain twitter profiles with messages. Zambia is an English speaking African country and African spammers wouldn't likely be doing this type of spam because as I said most Russian, Chinese, and African spam either involves a scam, fraud, or potentially giving someone a virus or malware so they buy a scam software in the hopes of removing it (which won't be removed because it's a scam to get money). With links disabled and their posts being removed from Latest 100 Topics, both trolls and scammers would be leaving to go somewhere else. But these trolls/spammers are not leaving.

That's why I say the #1 suspect is the US Government.
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Re: Is the Government Spamming the Forum?

Postby Tsar » Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:47 am

The current accounts spamming joined October 18-October 20. It appears all spam accounts only make 1 post.

The locations are either anonymous or listed.

Here's some of the countries they claim to be from...

Russia
Cook Islands
South Africa
Zambia

There is probably more I missed.

So what's the chances it's just a bunch of spammers, the same spammer wasting all his time here, or the government? Assuming someone or some device could tell us 100% and we were placing bets, I'd bet $500 it was the latter (the government) that was behind the spamming.
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Re: Is the Government Spamming the Forum?

Postby Winston » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:38 pm

Tsar,
The spam bots dont choose this forum specifically. They follow a script designed to target any phpbb forum on the web. When they find one they try to expose its weaknesses. So they dont make a conscious decision to target this forum.

I dont see why the government would target this forum. That may be paranoid alex jones type of thinking.

I disabled user registration for now. And made it activation by admin only, to stop the spam for now.
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Re: Is the Government Spamming the Forum?

Postby Winston » Fri Nov 04, 2016 8:45 am

I've disabled user registrations now, until I can figure out a fix to the spam problem. If you are new and trying to register, please wait until I find a fix. I will keep you all updated.

This might be a solution from Google.

https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/index.html
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Re: Is the Government Spamming the Forum?

Postby starchild5 » Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:08 am

Honestly, Winston. Its time for you to Upgrade to newer Forum Software. Web 2.0 standard. The design and feel of the site is important as well.

Roosh forum with all its negative has better layout. You should get what they are using or get Vbulliten forum software which is used by like 90% of forums online and you will not have any security issues etc.

For higher SEO. Google demands standard HTML 5 specifications.

If you do forum upgrade. you will see double the organic traffic, double the revenue and double exposure. believe me. I'm a certified adwords, analytics professional. I talk with Google almost everyday.

You should also post your software in Google Cloud Engine. It will be super fast and you will get higher ranking. Insider TIP by a Google employee. You should use all Google infrastructure to get higher ranking, the reason also is you would avoid DDoS, Spam, networking attacks etc...Google will be confident on your site when you host with them. Its like 50% cheaper as well but 100 times faster.

Marry Google, Ditch other services as far as back-end operations are concerned
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Re: Is the Government Spamming the Forum?

Postby Winston » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:20 am

Update: I've enabled registration again with a CAPTCHA for registration this time, since the humanizer questions don't seem to work anymore. If you tried to register before and didn't see a registration link, you can register now. Once you register, please make a post as soon as you can so when I prune the spammers with zero posts, you won't get pruned with them.

Thanks,
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PS - I can't figure out the instructions for the Google recaptcha below. They aren't made for laymen. Some of the steps don't make sense and don't tell you what to do. Can any of you figure it out?

https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/index.html
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Re: Is the Government Spamming the Forum?

Postby Winston » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:26 am

starchild5 wrote:Honestly, Winston. Its time for you to Upgrade to newer Forum Software. Web 2.0 standard. The design and feel of the site is important as well.

Roosh forum with all its negative has better layout. You should get what they are using or get Vbulliten forum software which is used by like 90% of forums online and you will not have any security issues etc.

For higher SEO. Google demands standard HTML 5 specifications.

If you do forum upgrade. you will see double the organic traffic, double the revenue and double exposure. believe me. I'm a certified adwords, analytics professional. I talk with Google almost everyday.

You should also post your software in Google Cloud Engine. It will be super fast and you will get higher ranking. Insider TIP by a Google employee. You should use all Google infrastructure to get higher ranking, the reason also is you would avoid DDoS, Spam, networking attacks etc...Google will be confident on your site when you host with them. Its like 50% cheaper as well but 100 times faster.

Marry Google, Ditch other services as far as back-end operations are concerned


Google has hosting services now? Do they take any site? Or only politically correct ones? Where can I find more info?

This forum software is the latest. What's HTML 5? How do you know if you have it?

Roosh forum uses mybb. It's too hard to convert to that and the links may not be the same. Vbulletin costs a yearly fee now.

You are a Google insider or employee? In what way?
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