Do you regret being born and raised in the USA?

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Cornfed wrote:
gravity25x wrote:Obviously new zealand is not your final destination, it has feminazis/liberalism/craziness too
So where is NZ the stepping stone to?
It becomes a stepping stone to whatever he wants to accomplish. Like I said in my post "I don't know, you have to decide what is best for yourself, " but he said he wanted to get rid of his US citizenship (I don't know why). I assume because of the crazy citizenship-based taxation/account reporting requirements that the IRS is putting on him when he lives overseas. If not for that reason then he should just keep his US passport and go abroad, beyond what I said he doesn't gain anything by getting rid of his citizenship.


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gravity25x wrote:Ok Adama, now I remember why your name stood out in my mind. I did a quick search of your name (etc) and got a quick run-down of your opinions/beliefs/past posts. I'm honestly surprised you haven't been banned after all this time. Winston is really tolerant. Imagine what would happen to him if he started spreading his opinions on feminist/liberal/america-loving forums?

I knew there was something slimy about you the first time you responded to my post, (which was why my memory was jogged in the first place.) I know a rat when I smell one. (Now go and post something in response to this, being very faux-polite and denying the whole thing and trying to make yourself seem like the victim of my harassment. Quick! before anyone else suspects!) :mrgreen:

I know you're a troll and would ban you in a second if this was my forum. Winston's tolerant, which I guess you survive off of. Anyway, I've blocked you. I can't understand why someone with beliefs totally inverted from the subject matter of this forum would hang around here...trolling is no fun unless you can be openly hostile with impunity (ala, youtube comments section/GTA online). I guess you just do it to present an opinion that you want others to agree with? Its not like your opinions aren't already presented in public school, on the MSM, and everywhere else; so you just HAD to present them here >_>, right?
To be honest it doesn't bother me if you don't like me, if you hate me or you think I am trolling. I was only trying to tell you, you don't have to choose misery. You can choose hope. You can choose to ignore the negative which you can't control, and look forward in hope to a good future.

Most of the stuff that bothers us goes on within our own heads. Certain beliefs are very limiting. I am only saying, let go of limiting beliefs and you'll find freedom and peace. Hold onto those limiting beliefs and you'll be miserable.

Your conclusions about who I am do amaze me though. Keep in mind also that we each are entitled to our own opinions. There is no reason to shut me up just because you hate my opinion. I am not a feminist and I think women should be under subjection to their husbands. No feminist would even say that. Most of the men on this forum wouldn't even tell you that, despite them being on men's side.

But trust your own assessment. If you think I am evil, then you're entitled to feel that way. :D
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I do hate much about America, especially its warmongering, its allegiance to Saudi Arabia and Israel, its feminism, its overseas fascism. But these are defects of government and the persons behind the scenes controlling it.

On the other hand, I am grateful for having been born into the middle class, because there are worse alternatives.

Being born and raised in the USA may suck socially compared to a place like Sweden or Germany, but I imagine it's much better than some truly impoverished places which lack running water, or where you can't drink the local water, or where you can't find a job to get food to eat.

America just sucks for women. But there is more to life than just women.
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I am only speaking for myself here - but I feel I am very fortunate not only to be a British citizen but to be a native speaker of English - two things that have enabled me to be 'happier abroad' I have been given opportunities to pursue this lifestyle until the end of my days if I so choose, all because I was born in the right country where I was able to take advantage of opportunities offered by some of the best learning establishments on the planet to find my own path somewhere else - something that is not really available to monolingual Finnish, Slovakian or Estonian men.

If you are Bulgarian, monolingual, working class and without a degree - how do you become 'happier abroad'? You don't, it's a dream. If you are Hungarian and you can't speak English or Chinese but you want to find a Chinese wife, how do you find one? Who wants to learn Hungarian as a foreign language anywhere on the planet?

That's not to say being working class in the UK (or the US) isn't shit, it is. Being working class anywhere is shit, but that is capitalism rather than a cultural aspect, but I would rather have been working class in the UK and had the chance to get out than working class in say - Russia. I would hate to think how working class and being Russian would have worked out for me - I probably wouldn't be here to talk about it.
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Adama wrote:America just sucks for women. But there is more to life than just women.
America sucks for some other things, not just dating and social life:

- Unless you're lucky to live in a city like New York, Washington DC, or San Francisco, you need a car to get around, especially in Southern California or Phoenix

- Greyhound is sub-par in comparison to executive and first-class buses in Mexico.

- Cost of living is too high, particularly in coastal areas and in Hawaii

- Healthcare is outrageously expensive, and America leads the world in medical bankruptcies. To make things worse, the (Un)Affordable Care Act made it mandatory for Americans to buy health insurance; and at the same time, premiums have gone up.

- Education consists of memorizing and regurgitating information

- Unless you majored in a field such as IT or engineering, landing a job is tough these days. Even McJobs can be hard to get
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Winston wrote:I can't understand why foreigners think america is a better life. Why doesnt their media tell the truth?
It depends on the individual and living condition.

To make it clear, there are many countries which are by far worse than USA.

I think, it is not really about where to go, but more about from where you come from.
If your financial situation is bad, USA is for sure an option worth to consider.

I was born in a dysfunctional family in a rather violent suburb in Central Europe and my idea was always to leave this place.
However I never had any financial problem. I had always a good job and payment was always OK and on time, the only problem was loneliness.
Also feminism and Christianity full with religious bigots disturbed me a lot.

USA was for me never under consideration, there is no much difference in income and in religious and social life between USA and EU - dating and to find any reasonable partner is a problem on both sides of the Atlantic. Feminism is rampant.

I moved to another place, Japan, where I spent the most time of my life up to now.

However after retirement, the situation is again different, why to stay in Japan, if you will find a better weather and cheaper life in Thailand, at least during winter season? I like tropical weather.

Simply said, USA is not a bad place compared to many other countries, but it is not a good option for everybody either.

There are advantages and disadvantages everywhere, you have to decide for yourself what fits you best.
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MattHanson1990 wrote:
Adama wrote:America just sucks for women. But there is more to life than just women.
America sucks for some other things, not just dating and social life:

- Unless you're lucky to live in a city like New York, Washington DC, or San Francisco, you need a car to get around, especially in Southern California or Phoenix

- Greyhound is sub-par in comparison to executive and first-class buses in Mexico.

- Cost of living is too high, particularly in coastal areas and in Hawaii

- Healthcare is outrageously expensive, and America leads the world in medical bankruptcies. To make things worse, the (Un)Affordable Care Act made it mandatory for Americans to buy health insurance; and at the same time, premiums have gone up.

- Education consists of memorizing and regurgitating information

- Unless you majored in a field such as IT or engineering, landing a job is tough these days. Even McJobs can be hard to get

I agree with you on most of this things. You pretty much hit the nail on it.
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MattHanson1990 wrote:I regret not only being born and raised in the U.S. of Gay, but I also regret not having parents of a different ethnicity. If only my mom was either Mexican, Colombian, or what not, I would have a second passport. And then I theoretically could renounce my U.S. citizenship, but easier said than done.
You can have Mexican citizenship whilst still having American citizenshiip. I actually got contacted a week ago about jobs for US people to work in Mexico. If you want me to hook you up with that person, I can send you their contact info via PM.
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yick wrote:I am only speaking for myself here - but I feel I am very fortunate not only to be a British citizen but to be a native speaker of English - two things that have enabled me to be 'happier abroad' I have been given opportunities to pursue this lifestyle until the end of my days if I so choose, all because I was born in the right country where I was able to take advantage of opportunities offered by some of the best learning establishments on the planet to find my own path somewhere else - something that is not really available to monolingual Finnish, Slovakian or Estonian men.

If you are Bulgarian, monolingual, working class and without a degree - how do you become 'happier abroad'? You don't, it's a dream. If you are Hungarian and you can't speak English or Chinese but you want to find a Chinese wife, how do you find one? Who wants to learn Hungarian as a foreign language anywhere on the planet?

That's not to say being working class in the UK (or the US) isn't shit, it is. Being working class anywhere is shit, but that is capitalism rather than a cultural aspect, but I would rather have been working class in the UK and had the chance to get out than working class in say - Russia. I would hate to think how working class and being Russian would have worked out for me - I probably wouldn't be here to talk about it.
Yick, I like the angle you chose to look at it from. From an angle of POSSIBILITIES. Yes, some things suck about the US/UK, but in terms of possibilities, there probably is no better place to be born (the West, especially the English speaking nations). English is an invaluable tool during international travel. Imagine if you only spoke German (some germans do..), and tried to travel outside of Europe? Lol.
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MattHanson1990 wrote:
Adama wrote:
- Unless you majored in a field such as IT or engineering, landing a job is tough these days. Even McJobs can be hard to get
Unfortunately, Indians are doing majority of the sh*t work in IT. The corporations outsource the work to India for pennies.

If you are American IT guy...You really need to be straight As and from Ivy league to get a decent job in America to support your life style. All Tier 2 IT jobs are been outsourced.

I have only met super smart IT guys in America. There is no middle ground like in Asia. One has to be a total nerd like to have success in America now a days.
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Seems like you need to be same crazy A type personality or uber nerd just to make a living nowadays. I remember when I applied for a grocery store deli clerk position, there were two rounds of intensive interviews plus an aptitude test. I ended up not getting the job after the final interview. I also got fired from a minimum wage fast food position after one month despite giving it my all.

I eventually "lucked" in to a job that pays a subsistence wage - been at it for a couple years - but the work is very stressful. I'm in a constant state of fight-or-flight mode, even while off the clock.

Makes me wonder how all those slackers from high school manage to feed themselves. Do they just live off their parents forever?
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I no longer keep track of the slackers from my high school, but the last time I checked they were working in the same place they always worked, albeit with a small promotion. So if they started out as a pizza delivery boy, five years later they were the assistant cook at said pizza restaurant. No idea what they're doing now, assistant manager?

I'm in the same boat, I have a well paying job that I hate, I'd love to quit but it would take so long to find another job with all the interviews and HR tests, it would probably take six months to get something else. Then who knows if I would last at the new job, what with office politics and all that.

I guess as long as I can pay the mortgage on my condo and hit up an asian massage joint once a week I should be happy.
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ezinho wrote:I no longer keep track of the slackers from my high school, but the last time I checked they were working in the same place they always worked, albeit with a small promotion. So if they started out as a pizza delivery boy, five years later they were the assistant cook at said pizza restaurant. No idea what they're doing now, assistant manager?

I'm in the same boat, I have a well paying job that I hate, I'd love to quit but it would take so long to find another job with all the interviews and HR tests, it would probably take six months to get something else. Then who knows if I would last at the new job, what with office politics and all that.

I guess as long as I can pay the mortgage on my condo and hit up an asian massage joint once a week I should be happy.
I hate the HR tests. I find them pointless tbh. It is just theoretical bullshit
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I feel it's sort of middle of the road. I guess a great opportunity about living in USA, is living or traveling somewhere else. Passport that's good for visa free travel to a lot of places, and just existing and speaking English at least opens you to under the table English teaching work, hell, being white and OK looking can get you modeling jobs, etc.

I guess a regret in USA I have most particularly, that I could blame quite a lot on USA is growing up with divorced parents, and being a product of a shotgun wedding to a mother who followed the "career" path and married a "bad boy." Not that this happening in other countries is impossible, it's certainly not, but in USA now, not having two parents in the house seems to be the norm, and not the exception. And families totally broken up, not even speaking of brothers and sisters, but aunts, uncles, etc, that you've not talked to for years and years and years because your parents divorced, that too. I think the general level of dysfunction and mental illness is pretty high here, too.

I guess I can say this. Obviously there's extremely rich people, etc, in USA. But honestly, among almost all my close friends, I don't envy the lives of many. Even ones (whose families) have a lot more money than mine. The level of familial dysfunction is just sky high. So if I have a regret, it's first and foremost, not so much my country I'm born in, but that peculiarity of my country, that family situations are just so terrible. I think I'd not have problems with USA as a whole, if my family situation stayed stable when I was going through my formative years. My family situation wasn't even ideal up until my parents divorced, but before the divorce, my life really was almost idyllic, and I was pretty much on the fast track to success, in private school, extremely healthy, very good mental health and social relationships, and just that alone was a catalyst to pretty much set my whole life up for ruin.

So... I dunno. If I was born in.... South Korea, or Japan, or Poland, or what have you, then I'd probably based on statistics, still have two parents living together, an extended family that still talks to each other, had more care and planning for my future from said parents, etc. Maybe shit would suck and I'd spend all my time in cram school and I'd work in a Samsung factory. Who knows. Maybe I could have been born in USA as Donald Trump or Bill Gates's son. Maybe I could be born the son of a crack whore here. Maybe I'd be born in Liberia and die of ebola. Who knows.

But one thing I can definitively say. I don't want my kids being raised here, that's for certain.
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