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Every country overcharges Americans?

Post by Tsar » March 15th, 2017, 10:57 am

Why does every country overcharge Americans? Every country that requires visas for Americans whether it be in Central or South America, Russia, Belarus, some Asian countries, all overcharge Americans compared to British or Euro-zone, and even many nations in the third world don't even pay nearly as much. But Americans get charged the most all the time.

Russia for example charges $160 for single entry visa to Americans but only 30 Pounds to British and 54 Euros to someone from France. That's nearly three times as much compared to the French and more than 4 times as much compared to the British?

Why are Americans the most overcharged people in the world BOTH inside America and outside America across the entire world?

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Re: Every country overcharges Americans?

Post by Voyager1 » March 15th, 2017, 11:43 am

Tsar wrote:Why does every country overcharge Americans? Every country that requires visas for Americans whether it be in Central or South America, Russia, Belarus, some Asian countries, all overcharge Americans compared to British or Euro-zone, and even many nations in the third world don't even pay nearly as much. But Americans get charged the most all the time.

Russia for example charges $160 for single entry visa to Americans but only 30 Pounds to British and 54 Euros to someone from France. That's nearly three times as much compared to the French and more than 4 times as much compared to the British?

Why are Americans the most overcharged people in the world BOTH inside America and outside America across the entire world?
Man if you're bitching about a $160 visa fee you really don't have enough money to go. What about your air fare? Hotel accommodation? or are you going to stay in a hostel? What about travel within Russia if you need to go somewhere? The visa fee is only a small fraction of your total expenditure.

And no, you are not "overcharged" a visa fee because you are American. The price is ubiquitous around the world for most nationalities.
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Re: Every country overcharges Americans?

Post by yick » March 15th, 2017, 11:47 am

Because it is reciprocal - meaning, what the Americans charge their citizens, is what countries charge Americans.

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Re: Every country overcharges Americans?

Post by Kradmelder » March 15th, 2017, 12:21 pm

Reciprocity:
As from December 1, 2014 ALL South African passport holders are to present their visa applications IN PERSON.

This requirement has been adopted in connection with new immigration and visa regulations introduced by the South African Department of Home Affairs obliging all Russian nationals to personally apply for their South African visas to the SA Embassy in Moscow.



Important visa information for Australian citizens

From June 15, 2012 visa application form for citizens of Australia will be in two pages (when printed out).

To ensure a principle of reciprocity citizens of Australia entering Russian Federation for official visit or business purpose will need to submit a detailed Curriculum Vitae in Russian language only.
Russia didnt make these rules. They only responded in kind to what SA and Australia did to them.

The way Obongo and his Jew masters treated Putin I am surprised they don't make it even more difficult for americans. Like the yanks and jews fomented the coup and war in the ukraine. Should russia even want americans in?

Unfortunately, following a jew world order has a cost to ordinary american citizens who may not agree with the jew agenda at all.

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Re: Every country overcharges Americans?

Post by onethousandknives » March 15th, 2017, 12:37 pm

Yeah, but look up the process to get a tourist visa to USA. It's basically unbearably hard, requires you to physically interview at a consulate, have at least $3000-5000 in your bank account with statements proving it, and requires an almost $200 fee as well. So in that context it's a wonder more countries aren't making it harder for Americans.

I predict in the coming years as USA loses international stature, some retribution will be made making travel for Americans harder with more stringent visa requirements. Basically only for payback, and possibly even in 10 years or so, Americans jumping off the sinking ship abroad becoming almost mainstream.

So visa fees are a bitch, I paid $150 for one after the country raised it from $30 or so. But go do it now before it gets worse... As it will.

The EU is even talking about banning US citizens from visa free entry now, actually. Because USA bans quite a few EU nations from visa free entry and has done nothing to ease the requirements like nations like Japan, etc, are at least giving a try at. But even the serious talk of it is a sign USA is losing stature, and fast.

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Re: Every country overcharges Americans?

Post by Masculine&Proud » March 16th, 2017, 8:39 am

Asian country's are the worst for overcharging Westerners (in general). You have to be mindful of that if traveling.

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Re: Every country overcharges Americans?

Post by Voyager1 » March 16th, 2017, 9:22 am

How so? They just charge the market rates. They don't have one price for Westerners and one price for locals.

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Re: Every country overcharges Americans?

Post by Cornfed » March 16th, 2017, 10:48 am

Voyager1 wrote:How so? They just charge the market rates. They don't have one price for Westerners and one price for locals.
Eh, often they do.

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Re: Every country overcharges Americans?

Post by droid » March 16th, 2017, 11:07 am

Tsar wrote:Russia for example charges $160 for single entry visa to Americans but only 30 Pounds to British and 54 Euros to someone from France. That's nearly three times as much compared to the French and more than 4 times as much compared to the British?
Why are Americans the most overcharged people in the world BOTH inside America and outside America across the entire world?
I would guess it's because all the zio-sanctions (zio-nctions?) imposed on them.
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?

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Re: Every country overcharges Americans?

Post by Zambales » March 16th, 2017, 2:05 pm

Voyager1 wrote:How so? They just charge the market rates. They don't have one price for Westerners and one price for locals.
In the Philippines they have one price for the locals, one for the westerners and one for the Koreans.

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Re: Every country overcharges Americans?

Post by onethousandknives » March 16th, 2017, 11:59 pm

Voyager1 wrote:How so? They just charge the market rates. They don't have one price for Westerners and one price for locals.
Nope. Vietnam for example, specifically last year jacked up rates ONLY for US citizens to eliminate their normal $20 visa + $25 stamping fee, to a $135 stamping fee. All the other countries had $25 stamping fees except USA, in retaliation for US tourist visas being so hard.

Mainland China has the same thing...3 month single entry for US citizens is $140, other countries, $30.

Mind you, to be fair, being in the Schengen zone, having a US passport is pretty great for the most part, but outside, lots of countries do this.

Also for prices for items on the private market that aren't visas, it depends on the country, and the degree of overcharging. In Vietnam I didn't get overcharged massively, because my girlfriend always negotiated for me, so I paid at most like 50c extra for stuff, and I wasn't in an area with a lot of tourists most of the time. In Vietnam you'd go to a store and 90% of the time most items had no price tag, so yeah, they can and will charge whatever. An Airbnb roommate of mine in Taiwan who went to Vietnam, he got charged $10 for a pair of flip flops that cost about $1-2 in Taiwan. I found the Taiwanese to be much more gracious and honest than people in Vietnam, Vietnam I got scammed on a phone card (sold as 9gb data, had no data...) and a taxi ride where the driver got lost and just dropped us off in the middle of wherever the hell like a kilometer away from our destination and charged us 80K VND (about $4) which she projected would be the cost to get us there. Taiwan on the other hand, I had a taxi driver just take 1000NTD to the airport when the meter actually read 1200 or 1150 or so, actually giving me a discount for about $5, which was really nice of him, and a definite contrast between the two countries, those experiences.

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Re: Every country overcharges Americans?

Post by Adama » March 17th, 2017, 2:37 am

Tsar wrote:Why does every country overcharge Americans? Every country that requires visas for Americans whether it be in Central or South America, Russia, Belarus, some Asian countries, all overcharge Americans compared to British or Euro-zone, and even many nations in the third world don't even pay nearly as much. But Americans get charged the most all the time.

Russia for example charges $160 for single entry visa to Americans but only 30 Pounds to British and 54 Euros to someone from France. That's nearly three times as much compared to the French and more than 4 times as much compared to the British?

Why are Americans the most overcharged people in the world BOTH inside America and outside America across the entire world?

First you have to figure out how much the US is charging for visas. It may be that they are simply charging the same price to Americans that Americans charge to their citizens.

From internet search:
$160
The application fee for the most common non-immigrant visa types is $160. This includes tourist, business, student, and exchange visas. Most petition-based visas, such as work and religious visas, are US$190.
With the way Trump is going now, it is going to be much harder for the visa system everywhere. He will have to eventually make it harder for everyone to get a visa to the states so it can't be called a Muslim ban. So if they make the restrictions on foreigners worse, chances are that other countries will make it harder for Americans. This is a silly game of greed and politics. Tit for tat theater.

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Re: Every country overcharges Americans?

Post by onethousandknives » March 17th, 2017, 3:52 am

The other bigger problem for visas isn't the simple charge, it's the absolute complexity involved. Even for countries like China, you can just still in USA, mail your application in with your passport, wait a week or two, and get a visa back. However, for other countries, you need to go to the US consulate physically, and get interrogated, show bank statements, etc. So for example, let's say you lived in Montana, and you had to physically go on a trip to California to get interviewed at the Chinese consulate and get asked how much you love Communism and proving you don't want to move to glorious PRC forever on your tourist visa or something, that'd be a giant pain. But that's figuratively what other countries have to go through to go to USA. So if you're 500+ miles from the US consulate, tough shit, gotta go anyway, and possibly waste an application fee on a bad interview at that.

So to be fair, none of these countries are retaliating back with anywhere near the force we apply to them.

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Re: Every country overcharges Americans?

Post by MattHanson1990 » March 19th, 2017, 6:34 pm

Mexico still allows Americans (and citizens from other first-world countries) to enter visa-free. But to go beyond the zona frontera (within a 20 km distance from the U.S. border), you need to fill out a tourist card; and if your stay is more than 7 days, you have to pay a fee of 390 Mexican pesos (around $20 USD). Mexico's immigration laws are still much more lax compared to those of the U.S. to this day.

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Re: Every country overcharges Americans?

Post by Wolfeye » March 19th, 2017, 8:01 pm

I think a lot of it simply has to do with America being a rich country- there's an assumption that there's more to be had. Also, America pulls a lot of dick moves & there's probably a reciprocity thing going on. I know I got MASSIVELY overcharged in Hungary when it came to hookers.

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