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But He Doesn't Have A Job

Postby MrMan » April 24th, 2017, 8:53 am

I watched a movie a few days ago about a man who kept pining after a woman he was afraid to meet. She was a childhood friend and he'd moved away after his parents died. He moved to whatever city she lived in in the hopes of meeting her, but didn't actually stalk her. He kept talking to his dead parents.

She goes back home to visit her dying father, and he goes back. He finally works up the nerve to talk her. She's an actress and was two-timing her boyfriend. Her boyfriend killed the other guy. She may not have known it. In the end, she ditches the boyfriend for the childhood friend who professed her love to her, and she'd told him to stop following her around.

He was a street performer, a juggler and a mime who wore pajamas and maid about $40 a night on a good night.

At the end of my movie, I said to my wife, "But he doesn't have a job. Why would she want him?" I also pointed out she was cheating on her boyfriend, why would he want her.

Anyway, I thought about you guys on this forum, how some of you complain that a girl doesn't want you if you don't have money or a decent job or whatever. Maybe, as a father of daughters, I'm turning more into a father-in-law type, but it doesn't make sense to me for a woman to go for a man who can't support her.
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Re: But He Doesn't Have A Job

Postby Cornfed » April 24th, 2017, 9:00 am

MrMan wrote:At the end of my movie, I said to my wife, "But he doesn't have a job. Why would she want him?" I also pointed out she was cheating on her boyfriend, why would he want her.

In the West and in some other places, females are married to the government, so unless they can land a millionaire their "boyfriends" will be the equivalent of screwing the milkman. Hence a street performer will often be more attractive to them than some guy with a middle class income.
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Re: But He Doesn't Have A Job

Postby chanta76 » April 25th, 2017, 12:32 am

MRMAN,

It's a movie. It's bull shit. Movies sometimes give false hope to people in general. In reality ..well reality is pretty scary or sad. Not everyone will be successful or find love. That's the reality. I guess you can call it the blue pill vs red pill. Reality is hard..work is hard. Making it is hard and not everyone will do it. Same with happier abroad. Not everyone will be happier abroad.

Money matters. Either the guy is independently wealthy or will inherent some major dough...it matters that he has some sort of work . Women do care in reality.
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Re: But He Doesn't Have A Job

Postby Adama » April 25th, 2017, 1:37 am

Because a man is more than an occupation. If she has money and is willing to share. Lots of underemployed men with gainfully employed wives.

As for adultery and murder, most of TV and movies are written by certain people who promote reprobate lifestyles. Keep that in mind whenever you watch the media. It is just brainwashing people to show them how to live in debauchery, and to teach them that it is normal and acceptable.

If you watch most TV, you will find that it is ALL about adultery or massive fornication, with the cheating of spouses and deception, or with exchanging out a new person every week. Some also have homosexuals in them, just to get you exposed to them and the idea.
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Re: But He Doesn't Have A Job

Postby Nailer » April 25th, 2017, 1:45 am

Cornfed wrote:
MrMan wrote:At the end of my movie, I said to my wife, "But he doesn't have a job. Why would she want him?" I also pointed out she was cheating on her boyfriend, why would he want her.

In the West and in some other places, females are married to the government, so unless they can land a millionaire their "boyfriends" will be the equivalent of screwing the milkman. Hence a street performer will often be more attractive to them than some guy with a middle class income.

This. Is there any shortage of decent guys making low six figures? No. Therefore, there is no urgency to settle with these types.

At the same time, the guy with the career has significant stress, time demands, and can't be constantly "on". The street performer can invest all his time in his social circle and has a stress-free life. He's more "fun", and can also be controlled more easily, thus is more appealing.

True story, I recently met a "magician" who was engaged. The guy does his schtick in bars at brunch. Nice guy, and I don't hold it against him, but WTF? :lol: :roll:

What you have to understand is that American women have zero regard for family, retirement, or the future. If they get money they spend it. They literally don't think beyond this month's rent being paid and the bling they want to buy this weekend, which is why corporate America is very interested in handing all the relationship power over to them.

Things will get interesting when we see a huge population of people too old to work who saved nothing for retirement. I think at that point, between 10 and 20 years in the future, the U.S. will have no choice but to go socialist, and all the young people will be paying to support a bunch of senile spinsters who never planned for the future. Have you noticed how a man's responsibility to his wife has gradually morphed into a general male responsibility to support the women of society, while expecting nothing in return? (Muh wage gap, single mothers have it so hard, etc.) It's time to "man up" and pay out so grannie can live her final years in comfort without abating the plethora of random cock she is accustomed to.

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Re: But He Doesn't Have A Job

Postby Adama » April 25th, 2017, 2:24 am

I would recommend to stop reading Manosphere articles. It really will lead you down the wrong path. Not everything that is written that makes sense is actually true. Some of it just comes from the mind of warped people who are intentionally or unintentionally leading others astray. Don't put stock into it. Remember that the feminist movement was led by the CIA. There is a divide and conquer strategy by those who hate women and men. And notice that many of the manosphere also hate men (though it is somewhat more covert with the "he got what he deserved" mentality). And they believe there is no hope. I never listen to anyone who is hopeless. Remember, thoughts are infectious.
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Re: But He Doesn't Have A Job

Postby Cornfed » April 25th, 2017, 9:44 am

Adama wrote:I would recommend to stop reading Manosphere articles. It really will lead you down the wrong path.

I've been around, and unfortunately the points stated are all too real. Deny them at your peril.
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Re: But He Doesn't Have A Job

Postby Adama » April 25th, 2017, 4:03 pm

Cornfed wrote:
Adama wrote:I would recommend to stop reading Manosphere articles. It really will lead you down the wrong path.

I've been around, and unfortunately the points stated are all too real. Deny them at your peril.


No, it's just his opinions based upon what he thinks he has observed. Everyone has personal bias, and this manosphere also has its own bias. It's mainly a bunch of sad, hopeless men who can't see goodness, truth or light. To them everything is gloomy, stained and worthless. So they must abstain from life. That's their problem though.

The problem for everyone else is, just reading that rhetoric over and over again from many different people creates an echo chamber. And if you believe it, it is true in your eyes. That doesn't make it reality just because a bunch of hopeless men all agree.
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Re: But He Doesn't Have A Job

Postby Cornfed » April 25th, 2017, 4:21 pm

Adama wrote:
Cornfed wrote:
Adama wrote:I would recommend to stop reading Manosphere articles. It really will lead you down the wrong path.

I've been around, and unfortunately the points stated are all too real. Deny them at your peril.


No, it's just his opinions based upon what he thinks he has observed.

That is all we have to guide us in this life. The rest of what you said is just insulting people who disagree with you. You are not going to learn anything this way.
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Re: But He Doesn't Have A Job

Postby Kradmelder » April 25th, 2017, 4:28 pm

Adama wrote:
Cornfed wrote:
Adama wrote:I would recommend to stop reading Manosphere articles. It really will lead you down the wrong path.

I've been around, and unfortunately the points stated are all too real. Deny them at your peril.


No, it's just his opinions based upon what he thinks he has observed. Everyone has personal bias, and this manosphere also has its own bias. It's mainly a bunch of sad, hopeless men who can't see goodness, truth or light. To them everything is gloomy, stained and worthless. So they must abstain from life. That's their problem though.

The problem for everyone else is, just reading that rhetoric over and over again from many different people creates an echo chamber. And if you believe it, it is true in your eyes. That doesn't make it reality just because a bunch of hopeless men all agree.


Good summary of the whinosphere.
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Re: But He Doesn't Have A Job

Postby MrMan » April 25th, 2017, 5:19 pm

A few years back, my wife and I watched a 'live leak' of the v-log of a killer who'd gone into a mall in California and shot a bunch of people. I think he killed himself. His monologue complained about a lot of manosphere themes. Men took women out to dinner, but didn't give them sex in exchange....garbage like that. My wife was surprised since she said he was very good-looking. Maybe girls picked up a creepy vibe off of him.

There are some things that are true that you read in the manosphere. For example, state legal systems tend to be unfavorable toward men when it comes to divorce and various issues of family law. But it isn't true that there are no women out there who will make decent wives. Some of the MGTOWs treat their philosophy like a religion. They repeat this idea about there being no good women, and women divorce-raping you in court. When you point out that there are other countries with other legal systems, some of them stick to their guns. There are also still women who don't use the divorce court system. If the failure rate for marriage is 50%, that means that 50% of marriages aren't failing.

The manosphere is full of men who overstate their case, and who aren't reasonable about their theories. The idea that men are entitled to sex for dating women is warped thinking. Some of the manosphere posters use very violent language towards women, talk about raping them, and insult or threaten men who disagree with them. I could see how an impressionable young man could get some really warped thinking from reading this stuff, especially uncritically. I can understand why divorced men could get a little bitter. But it's really sad when it rubs off on single young men and they start repeating the same stuff. Some of the men who aren't harsh and angry in their tone are basically male feminists with the genders reversed.
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Re: But He Doesn't Have A Job

Postby Adama » April 25th, 2017, 5:31 pm

When someone is depressed and hopeless, their bias is also depressed and hopeless. When someone already believes another person is acting a certain way, he only sees everything that person does as being in line with that way. It's confirmation bias and depression for many men.
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Re: But He Doesn't Have A Job

Postby MrMan » April 25th, 2017, 5:38 pm

Adama wrote:When someone is depressed and hopeless, their bias is also depressed and hopeless. When someone already believes another person is acting a certain way, he only sees everything that person does as being in line with that way. It's confirmation bias and depression for many men.


The same thing may apply to Jewish conspiracy theories. If someone sees a Jewish bad guy and it can confirm the conspirasy theory from their perspective.
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Re: But He Doesn't Have A Job

Postby Nailer » April 25th, 2017, 5:42 pm

MrMan wrote:
Adama wrote:When someone is depressed and hopeless, their bias is also depressed and hopeless. When someone already believes another person is acting a certain way, he only sees everything that person does as being in line with that way. It's confirmation bias and depression for many men.


The same thing may apply to Jewish conspiracy theories. If someone sees a Jewish bad guy and it can confirm the conspirasy theory from their perspective.

Yep, must be dat confirmation bias! :roll:

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Re: But He Doesn't Have A Job

Postby Adama » April 25th, 2017, 5:52 pm

The Jews are behind Bolshevism, Communism, feminism, international banking, and control western governments through their money and lobbying organizations. This is not theory but fact.

The Manosphere is similar to feminism, and guess who started modern feminism (who's behind it)? The Jews of cultural Marxism and the CIA.

Jews are not gods. They are just working for their god, the god of this world. It is an anti Christ religion in plain sight. They blaspheme Jesus and wrote their own Bible called the Talmud, the Oral Tradition of the Rabbis which Jesus spoke against.
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