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Job Pays ~$65K no degree required

Postby MrMan » May 18th, 2017, 5:56 am

I've read a little about becoming a customs broker. It's not something worth pursuing myself at this point in my career, but it may be a good job for someone here struggling to find a good career. Companies and individuals who import need customs brokers to get their goods legally through customs. A customs broker has to have expertise in how to do this.

From what I've read, the job does not require a degree. It does require an individual to pass a test that costs $200 that has a 10% pass rate. So it would probably require quite a bit of study. It may take a year or so to get the necessary security clearances, I hear.

I am not sure how people learn the skills to do this. My guess is that there are courses just like there are for real estate agents, real estate appraisers, and certain securities brokers. For certain vocational courses, it is possible to borrow money using US student loan programs. It could be legally possible, but that doesn't mean all vendors of these courses will have a system set up to help individuals take the courses.

https://www.cbp.gov/trade/programs-administration/customs-brokers/becoming-customs-broker

The website says:
Who is eligible to become qualified as a Customs broker?

To be eligible, you must:

be a United States citizen at least 21 years old.
not be a current Federal Government employee.
possess good moral character.
Assuming I am eligible, how do I become a Customs broker?

First, you must pass the Customs Broker License Examination.
Second, you must submit a broker license application with appropriate fees.
Third, your application must be approved by CBP.


It also appears from the website that the recommendation of the CPB port director is important, so it would probably be a good idea to find one who will eventually vouch for you before studying for such a role. If you could find a port of entry near where you live or want to live at <https://www.cbp.gov/contact/ports>, you could try to schedule an interview with the port director, ask about opportunities for work in the field, find out if there is a demand for another customs broker in your area, and decide if it is something you want to pursue. You could also ask someone at a customs broker firm, freight forwarder, or whatever other organization you might end up working for advice on job prospects in that arena.

A lot of people, if you call them up out of the blue, say you are considering getting trained in a job in their field one day, and ask for an appointment, will give you the time. You can even throw in a free lunch. If you do that with half a dozen potential employers in the industry, when you get certified, you have made contact with someone who could hire you. Asking career advice is less intrusive than asking for an appointment and then hitting them up for a job, and it may be easier to get the job if you've made previous contact with the individual. Send a thank you note after the appointment, too.

Customs broker sounds like a job that would keep you in the US. I don't know if overseas firms use them. I suppose its possible to end up overseas with this certification. It would get you in an import-export related field, which may bring you into contact with job opportunities overseas if that is what you are interested in.

There are a lot of jobs that do not require college degrees that require that you pass a special test, like real estate agents, real estate appraisers, insurance salesmen. Some of these jobs require that you do sales. Not all do. In the early 2000's, I knew a 'microsoft engineer.' He did not have a college degree, but he took certification tests from Microsoft. I heard google was offering free google adwords training. Back when I worked for a company that did SEO, I could have gotten the certification because I worked for a company like that. If they open the training and certification up to anyone, that's a really easy way to get a credential that just might open up a job opportunity for you.

If you do have a degree, that's even better for getting jobs in your future. But just having a degree that doesn't teach a specific job skill (e.g. psychology, communications, or just about anything in the humanities or social sciences), may not be enough to get a job that doesn't involve saying, "How may I help you?" or "Do you want fries with that?" A degree plus a certification that is in demand could help open up a decent career path for you.
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Re: Job Pays ~$65K no degree required

Postby Cornfed » May 18th, 2017, 6:32 am

Posts like this are like various suggestions to get quality AW. There are just not enough positions available, so there is no possible way that most people can succeed in this. To get a job like this out of school or whatever you would need luck or good connections.
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Re: Job Pays ~$65K no degree required

Postby MrMan » May 18th, 2017, 6:38 am

Cornfed wrote:Posts like this are like various suggestions to get quality AW. There are just not enough positions available, so there is no possible way that most people can succeed in this. To get a job like this out of school or whatever you would need luck or good connections.


So just about any career suggestion is near hopeless for you?

This forum seems to have a very small number of people reading it. Most readers won't run out and become customs brokers. One or two who try just might succeed. There are lots of jobs like this in the US job market. It is not totally hopeless. If you wanted to be a customs broker, you could go do the research and see if it is worth pursuing. Or you could just assume that if there is a job out there, you won't get it, and not try. if you don't want to be a customs broker, that's fine, but don't poo-poo everyone's career suggestions. You come off as quite a defeatist.

I was expecting you to post something about all the jobs being given to blacks or women or something like that.

Don't worry, though, McDonald's still hires young white men to fry french fries.
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Re: Job Pays ~$65K no degree required

Postby Cornfed » May 18th, 2017, 6:42 am

MrMan wrote:
Cornfed wrote:Posts like this are like various suggestions to get quality AW. There are just not enough positions available, so there is no possible way that most people can succeed in this. To get a job like this out of school or whatever you would need luck or good connections.


So just about any career suggestion is near hopeless for you?

If you give one to the right person that is suited to him and hiring just down the road, then not necessarily hopeless. But this generic stuff is largely hopeless. There are always barriers to entry or the people would be making minimum wage or less.
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Re: Job Pays ~$65K no degree required

Postby Zambales » May 18th, 2017, 8:16 am

If one has the drive to become a customs broker, one will be.

It's all about having the right attitude and going the extra mile to reach one's goal.

10% pass rate?

Seems like 90% of previous applicants didn't have the correct mentality which leaves a gaping hole of opportunity for the those who do.
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Re: Job Pays ~$65K no degree required

Postby Cornfed » May 18th, 2017, 8:28 am

Zambales wrote:If one has the drive to become a customs broker, one will be.

It's all about having the right attitude and going the extra mile to reach one's goal.

10% pass rate?

Seems like 90% of previous applicants didn't have the correct mentality which leaves a gaping hole of opportunity for the those who do.

So how long have you believed in self contradictory magic then?
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Re: Job Pays ~$65K no degree required

Postby MrMan » May 18th, 2017, 9:49 am

They are allowed to retake the test. Some people go to law school and take the bar exam more than once before passing. I'd imagine there are a lot of detailed regulations. I haven't ever heard of a school for customs brokers either.

I did a web search and there are courses for sale online from $800 to $1000. That's a lot of money, but not a lot to get into a career that pays a decent wage. It's a lot cheaper than a college education.
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Re: Job Pays ~$65K no degree required

Postby Kradmelder » May 18th, 2017, 10:24 am

MrMan wrote:They are allowed to retake the test. Some people go to law school and take the bar exam more than once before passing. I'd imagine there are a lot of detailed regulations. I haven't ever heard of a school for customs brokers either.

I did a web search and there are courses for sale online from $800 to $1000. That's a lot of money, but not a lot to get into a career that pays a decent wage. It's a lot cheaper than a college education.


It is far easier to sit back and complain about what you are entitled to and that costs nothing. Even like complaining about the west, where it is only in the west where you are entitled to sit back and complain about how the system is against you, even while living on hand outs. In the rest of the world you would be on the street, no roof, no food.

Taking a course, studying, passing tests requires some effort and input from an individual and an onus on them to make an effort for a future. It is against the entitlement mindset that everything is owed to you and should come to you, whether just for being white, for past slavery or apartheid, or whatever reason to shift the blame. Different heads of the same parasitic animal.

If they want the west to collapse, the first collapse should be in the social welfare system that allows people to sit back and complain with full bellies about the system that feeds them even if they contribute nothing.

The pass rate is not that much an issue. In engineering very few complete to final year, and far less get post-graduate. In the military, 10% would be good for specialist courses, with many dropping out or being RTUed. Such pass rates keep out those that are not really motivated in the first place, and discourages more slackers from applying and wasting resources. There are posts for those pushing a broom, in logistics, catering corps and other jam stealer jobs.

In SA, only 10% of engineering students graduate
https://businesstech.co.za/news/government/101122/shocking-number-of-engineering-dropouts-at-sa-universities/

and only 15% of all students
http://www.iol.co.za/lifestyle/family/kids/only-15-of-sa-university-students-graduate-1531809

Of course all the AA darkies getting in on their colour who dont have the brains or discipline contribute to this failure rate,

In the USA it seems to be 44%
https://planning.ucsc.edu/irps/ENROLLMT/july02update/GradRatesTTD.pdf

But if you are going to pay USA university rates, unlike the freebies our darkies get, you will make the effort to graduate.
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Re: Job Pays ~$65K no degree required

Postby MrMan » May 18th, 2017, 10:39 am

Cornfed,

In these types of discussions it seems like you choose the position that the situation is hopeless and there is no way of improving ones economic condition, and sticking to your guns.

I went back to grad school (for way too long) and get more than triple my past Asian English teacher salary with lots of benefits. It took a lot of hard work.
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Re: Job Pays ~$65K no degree required

Postby Zambales » May 18th, 2017, 12:24 pm

Cornfed wrote:
Zambales wrote:If one has the drive to become a customs broker, one will be.

It's all about having the right attitude and going the extra mile to reach one's goal.

10% pass rate?

Seems like 90% of previous applicants didn't have the correct mentality which leaves a gaping hole of opportunity for the those who do.

So how long have you believed in self contradictory magic then?


Have fun flipping burgers then!
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Re: Job Pays ~$65K no degree required

Postby Jeremy » May 18th, 2017, 2:22 pm

I don't think more education/certification is the answer. There's simply too large a supply of qualified labour for too few jobs nowadays. Someone could spend 6 months of their precious time studying for this test and still be no better off.

I'm just going to keep squirrelling away as much as I can from my shitty $35K/year job (which I only landed due to a family connection after years of applying everywhere). Hopefully in ten years I'll have enough f u money saved that I won't NEED to participate in this circus anymore.
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Re: Job Pays ~$65K no degree required

Postby Kradmelder » May 18th, 2017, 2:30 pm

Zambales wrote:
Cornfed wrote:
Zambales wrote:If one has the drive to become a customs broker, one will be.

It's all about having the right attitude and going the extra mile to reach one's goal.

10% pass rate?

Seems like 90% of previous applicants didn't have the correct mentality which leaves a gaping hole of opportunity for the those who do.

So how long have you believed in self contradictory magic then?


Have fun flipping burgers then!


No because the counter claim will be that they wont hire white men to flip burgers and will only hire mexicans to genocide white people. For a white person to apply means you are a pawn of ZOG and only working to enrich jews. Of course jews are only sourcing GM products for the fast food places so that whites can be poisoned and genocided at the hand of mexicans. And of course only hamburger flippers have any chance at all of meeting white women, so the system is designed so that only non-whites get white women. See, we must all get it now.

I think in the UK, the dole was created by jews so that chavs could get drunk and not apply for work so that they could bring in pakis and muzzies to genocide whites. The chavs of course are innocent victims of all this and owuld be productive good workers if only their jobs were not being stolen by pakis, all part of the jewish plan..... :lol: :lol:
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Re: Job Pays ~$65K no degree required

Postby MrMan » May 18th, 2017, 3:46 pm

I had to look up what a chav is.

You left the aliens out of your conspiracy, and the part about people wearing demonic underpants and big pharma keeping people from drinking hydrogen peroxide out of a copper vessel.
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Re: Job Pays ~$65K no degree required

Postby ezinho » May 18th, 2017, 4:06 pm

One thing that people don't mention on here is that when you make a high salary, your company owns you and they let you know that every day of the week. You become their bitch and trust me, they make you earn every cent of your big salary. You get used to the money and then you just put up with the office politics and abuse that they put you through. Sure, you can numb the pain with booze, cigars and asian massage joints, but it gets old after a while.

Not that I'm speaking from experience or anything...
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Re: Job Pays ~$65K no degree required

Postby Kradmelder » May 18th, 2017, 4:36 pm

MrMan wrote:I had to look up what a chav is.

You left the aliens out of your conspiracy, and the part about people wearing demonic underpants and big pharma keeping people from drinking hydrogen peroxide out of a copper vessel.


I forgot about the aliens and big pharma plotting to genocide me and all white men.

I guess we have to quit working to keep up with all this. Then we can blame ZOG for us being unemployed and being genocided. I wont apply for any job as it should be given to me as a birthright with a big salary. And i wont bother with women as i am entitled to a hot 20 year old virgin even if i tell her she must only obey, tolerate my whoring, and should not be educated. She must just spread her legs for me.
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